Talk:List of Paramount+ original programming

hey BrickMaster02: curious as to why you think reverting my removal of wholly unnecessary {{dts}} templates and adding them back somehow constitutes restoring this article to its last "GOOD" version. Also not super-thrilled that you came to my Talk page to tell me how I was editing disruptively when I've made clear justifications in my edit summaries as to why I'm removing them (since tables can sort dates natively without the use of templates) whereas you've provided no explanation for why your reverts improve the article.

It's clearly mentioned in the template's documentation to be careful that the template is needed. In nearly all cases in this article, it is not. The exceptions are the one table with two entries that have multiple dates in a single cell in an unbulleted list and two entries where the month and year but not the day are specified, all of which I accounted for in my edits.

Please revert your re-addition of these unnecessary templates. —Joeyconnick (talk) 21:33, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

No. Pages for Disney+ and HBO Max have the same exact stuff as this page. If you're going to complain about it here, then why not remove those at the other pages? BrickMaster02 (talk) 21:42, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Yeah no, that's not a valid argument. Just because other pages have unnecessary things doesn't mean we can't fix things here. People improving articles do not have to improve those same things in every. single. article. ever. because that would be insane and would mean we'd never improve any article.

Also, "other pages do this" is a well-known non-argument. You have yet again not said why we need these wholly unnecessary {{dts}} templates. "They use them in other pages" is not an argument for keeping them here. —Joeyconnick (talk) 02:42, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

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the list for german originals . The series of the seich starts on December 22 and the chemistry of death starts on January 12, 2023 according to German sources Serienfan555 (talk) 12:04, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I am getting sick of the edits getting reverted, so I'm going to settle this dispute once and for all. My Dream Quinceañera, Beavis and Butt-Head, and Are You the One? ARE continuations. Even though Paramount+ does not say it or consider it, the news says otherwise. If you go on Pluto TV or any of the press releases, you know that My Dream Quinceañera is an already existing show, and the press release literally says "Prior to its Paramount+ revival, MY DREAM QUINCEAÑERA was born as an AwesomenessTV YouTube series that spanned 39 seasons and more than 230 episodes".

As for Beavis and Butt-Head, the title for this news article speaks for itself. Same goes for Are You the One?, as the press release calls it a new season. "Paramount+ today announced that a new season featuring a global version of the hit dating competition series ARE YOU THE ONE? will premiere exclusively on the service Wednesday, Jan. 18 in the U.S. and Canada."

And for 1923, regardless where the news came from, it was published from a reliable source.

@Carbits90, please discuss your points in more detail here. BrickMaster02 (talk) 00:21, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Where on earth are you two fighting over? There seems to be a choice in where to put the info, but an edit war is not useful at all. The Banner talk 13:18, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

There is a long running discussion on if the list of upcoming programs on this page falls under the no EPGs rule. This is following an update to this page in which the list of upcoming programs was removed citing this rule

It would be good to get additional input: Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not#Proposal for a text change relating to WP:NOTTVGUIDE JordanP7893 (talk) 15:49, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Nisf I am still getting this reference as a bad link:

James Kevin McMahon (talk) 18:18, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Weird, the link was working as of an hour ago on my end. Thanks for the screenshot - I updated to a more recent url for the same article. Please let me know if it is working now. (By the way, if you had originally stated that you were changing the source due to a broken link, I would not have reverted your edit - apologies for any misunderstanding.) Nisf (talk) 18:47, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

It is working perfectly ok now. I just repaced it with the reference I had used for Cristina Rodlo, but the source you are using is great too. James Kevin McMahon (talk) 20:43, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Talk:NCIS: Sydney has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. newsjunkie (talk) 00:36, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

I don't know about the any of the other shows, but NCIS:Sydney is available on Paramount Plus in the United States because of its broadcast on CBS like all the other CBS shows. https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/ncis-sydney/ When I first just added United States to the countries, another editor said that column is only for listing locations where Paramount Plus is the exclusive premiere location with it being "first run" on CBS in the U.S. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Paramount%2B_original_programming&diff=prev&oldid=1313700944 I would also be fine with a footnote clarifying that it is also available on Paramount Plus in the U.S. due to its airing on CBS/as a "CBS original". But as it stands the "not available worldwide" without noting the U.S. Paramount Plus availability in some form is misleading/confusing. Even if that wasn't the original plan, it is now available on Paramount Plus in the U.S. basically the same time as CBS and now also for the most part the same time as in the U.K. and Australia, the countries that are listed. The way it's written now makes it seem like those countries are the only ones where it is available on Paramount Plus.newsjunkie (talk) 00:26, 11 October 2025 (UTC)

This list is for "Paramount+ originals". If a show premieres on CBS that means it isn't Paramount+ original programming, as it didn't premiere on Paramount+ and, therefore, isn't meant to be added here. It is irrelevant that the show is available on Paramount+ after broadcast and its not misleading not being on the list when it isn't an original premiere, the information just doesn't belong here anyways by this list criteria and info is instead already added directly to the show article when notable. Happily888 (talk) 15:00, 11 October 2025 (UTC)

But the phrasing "they are not available worldwide" suggests that those shows are only *available* on Paramount Plus in those specified countries. Availability is not the same thing as an original or premiering. If it's just about Paramount Plus originals and where they premiere, then we should should just take out availability entirely, it's not really relevant. In the worldwide context, it is still a Paramount Plus show first, the fact that it goes on CBS first in the U.S. doesn't take away from that, it's a different release pattern in that one country, but it still ends up available there on the service there in a major market (or the largest market in terms of North America as a whole), which one could clarify with a footnote if not adding the country outright. That does not take away from where it is filmed, in fact that makes it more notable for being available in a major market.The more markets a show is available on the same platform and the larger those markets are, the more notable it is. newsjunkie (talk) 18:18, 11 October 2025 (UTC)

The viewership on Paramount Plus in the U.S. is still significant regardless of where it premiered first. And according to this release it is also available on Paramount Plus in "Italy, France, Germany, Switzerland, Austria and South Korea on Paramount+," which makes the "not available worldwide" thing even less meaningful. So why not just remove that wording and just list all the countries where its available, with a footnote for the one exception where it premieres on a linear network first? newsjunkie (talk) 18:44, 11 October 2025 (UTC)

Really I think NCIS:Sydney should just be moved to the main Drama section, possibly with some sort of explanatory footnote. It doesn't seem to be very regionally restricted anymore either in terms of premiering or availability. Endemol Shine lists all these Paramount Plus streaming locations together and doesn't differentiate:

"NCIS: Sydney season one is streaming now on Paramount+ in New Zealand, USA, UK, South Korea, Canada, Italy, France, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, and will be available later this year in Japan." https://www.endemolshine.com.au/news/2024/3/20/paramount-greenlights-season-two-of-australian-original-series-ncis-sydney newsjunkie (talk) 06:29, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

@Nisf I don't think all markets is accurate either. (it doesn't mention Latin America where Paramount Plus is also available for example.) So instead of just having to list all the markets it is available in, we should move it to the other section and note the two known exceptions. Paramount itself doesn't make the "CBS original" or Canada distinction. It just notes that its available for streaming in all those countries together outside Australia. newsjunkie (talk) 19:30, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

@Nisf By the way I don't disagree with the co-production category, but that has been a separate debate on the NCIS Sydney page.... newsjunkie (talk) 19:31, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

I am looking at the Paramount+ app right now. In the US, NCIS: Sydney is labeled as a CBS Original with the CBS logo (as opposed to say, NCIS: Tony & Ziva, which is clearly marked as a Paramount+ Original). So clearly Paramount DOES make the distinction. Nisf (talk) 19:35, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

They make it on the app (for marketing) for the U.S. audience yes, but when they talk about it in corporate terms they just list all the countries where it is available on Paramount Plus without that distinction. The CBS original thing is only really targeted at U.S. consumers. From the U.S. press site "NCIS: SYDNEY airs on the CBS Television Network and streams on Paramount+ in the U.S. (live and on demand for Paramount+ with SHOWTIME subscribers, or on demand for Paramount+ Essential subscribers the day after the episodes air). Season one is streaming now on Paramount+ in New Zealand, the U.S., U.K., South Korea, Canada, Italy, France, Germany, Switzerland, Austria and will be available later this year in Japan." https://www.paramountpressexpress.com/cbs-studios/shows/ncis-sydney/releases/?view=109465-ncis-sydney-receives-cross-continent-renewal-by-cbs-and-paramount-australia newsjunkie (talk) 19:43, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

Look at the name of the page. This isn't "List of programs available to stream on Paramount+", this is "List of Paramount+ original programming". Whether it's available to stream on Paramount+ is irrelevant. Nisf (talk) 22:53, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

I think it's fine in either the co-production or the general section, just not the regional specific one given the range of ountries. Given it's original premiere location of the first episode, for the purposes of this page I think its status as a Paramount Plus original supersedes the CBS Original designation in one market (plus Canada), though that can be noted in some form. Based on how it is described in the press releases, from their corporate perspective it's a Paramount Plus show in all the locations where its available to stream on Paramount Plus on the same technical platform, with alternate branding in one/possibly two markets for marketing purposes, but that doesn't take away from it being "native" to the Paramount Plus platform in an overarching sense given its original premiere location. It would be different it had premiered first on some other Australian streaming public broadcaster channel or website or something, then it probably wouldn't be included here at all......Or to summarize: once it premieres as a Paramount Plus original on that platform it keeps that overarching status and any international availability of it on the same technical platform is just an extension of that at least from a corporate perspective even if it's branded as something else for marketing in the U.S. market because they chose to air it on linear there first. newsjunkie (talk) 01:02, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

Oh okay, so you’re making up own definition of a Paramount+ Original, got it!

The way that this works on the programming pages isn’t who produced it, it’s how Paramount/Skydance markets the program. If it was originally produced for the streaming platform AND is labeled as a Paramount+ Original, then it belongs on the page. Who produced the series is irrelevant - look at all of the Netflix Originals that are produced by Endemol, ITV, etc. Streaming availability is also irrelevant, as the entire library of CBS broadcast series is available on Paramount+ but are not Paramount+ Originals.

In this case, the series was originally created for Paramount+ but is labeled as a Paramount+ Original only in certain regions (all regions that are not the US and Canada). Based on the discussion below, it does not meet the two criteria needed to keep it out of the Regional Original Programming section. Nisf (talk) 11:43, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

Actually, I wasn't talking about who produced it at all with regard to that section. I was saying that its original premiere *location*/labelling for the first episode is the superseding factor - if its original premiere location is as a Paramount Plus original than all other appearances on the same platform are extensions even if it is labelled otherwise in certain countries -- Paramount itself does not make the distinction in its corporate releases, it just emphasizes that it is streaming in all those countries and the CBS Original designation is secondary for only a particular market. The CBS shows aren't relevant because Paramount Plus isn't their original premiere location.

I don't think it belongs in the regional section because it's not that restricted ta specific regions and it seems odd to be categorizing it by the exception (where it is NOT labeled as Paramount Original) versus categorizing it by the fact that it IS a Paramount Plus original in most of the countries.

Who produced it is relevant only for the co-production section. I believe it *could* also go in the co-production section -- there are secondary sources calling it a co-production including Deadline -- but that is then the separate disagreement on the NCIS Sydney page. newsjunkie (talk) 17:41, 4 November 2025 (UTC)