Talk:Mallorca

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. per discussion consensus, WP:COMMONNAME, and WP:TITLECHANGES. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 23:38, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Mallorca → MajorcaMajorca – Majorca is used by major English sources such as Britanica^[1], Trip Advisor^[2], Tui^[3], The Telegraph^[4] and the BBC^[5]. Besides the reason most commonly given to move the article to 'Mallorca' in the first place was 'consistency with Menorca'. This is irrelevant because: A) Wikipedia uses the most common name; whether or not it is consistent doesn’t always matter.

• Oppose: I was in the mood to make a table. From what I found, there's not really any preference towards either name. And actually, I found this article in The Times that suggests "Majorca" is the British spelling of the island whereas "Mallorca" is the rest-of-the-world spelling of the island.  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 02:55, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

More information Source, "mallorca" spain ...

Bait30's assortment of reliable sources, search terms, and number of results

Source	"mallorca" spain	"majorca" spain
The New York Times	529	960
Deutsche Welle	127	34
Reuters	1596	1576
CNN	146	11
RTÉ	261	222
NPR	43	21
The Times	1362	1112
The Wall Street Journal	5	0
The Age	200	149
BBC by No such user (talk)	~110	~80

Close

• Oppose. Moved here 3 years ago, cherry-picked sources in the nomination are unimpressive. Evidence presented by Bait30 as well as in the previous RM suggests that both names are in similar circulation, so the consistency argument pulls a significant weight. And WP:TITLECHANGES. No such user (talk) 08:53, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support per User:Bait30 and User:No such user (sic). If usage is mixed, use English. —  AjaxSmack  16:50, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
  • AjaxSmack, I'm confused by your statement. We said oppose, so I'm unsure how you can say support per my argument.  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 20:06, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
    • You presented evidence showing that there's "not really any preference towards either name". In that case, let's use English in line with policy. —  AjaxSmack  03:04, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

      Where are you seeing that "Mallorca" isn't English? If anything, "Mallorca" better fulfills WP:RECOGNIZABILITY.  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 13:47, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

  • Last time I checked, BBC and New York Times were written in English. Or was it something awfully close resembling it? No such user (talk) 20:18, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

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      Yes, and both of them use "Majorca" based on links given above. —  AjaxSmack  03:04, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
      • They use both, without apparent preference. BBC added. Are you saying that Medieval Latin "Majorca" is somehow more "English" than modern Spanish "Mallorca"? No such user (talk) 08:12, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
        • I don't know any medieval Latin, but my modern translation dictionary (which reads "Revised and Updated for the 21st Century") only gives "Majorca" for the modern English and Mallorca for the modern Spanish. See image over here. —  AjaxSmack  16:26, 31 August 2021 (UTC) →

• Oppose. Cherry-pick sources all you want - no one denies that SOME people use the J - or just... aggregate all high-level uses at once. Oh look! Mallorca overtook Majorca thirty years ago. This article has the right title. Red Slash 18:42, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose - Support because the name sounds better and it's what everyone's used to calling it. Oppose because under Google News "Majorca" has 139,000 results, Mallorca has 28,500,000 . As much as I really want to there's no valid reason to support moving other than preference. –Davey2010^Talk 14:00, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
• oppose per Bait and No such user—blindlynx (talk) 19:07, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Both names are regularly used in English-language sources, but the current one appears to be more commonly used.--Yaksar (let's chat) 20:07, 31 August 2021 (UTC)