Talk:Mark Aldridge

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. You can locate your hook here. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Jeromi Mikhael talk 02:57, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

  • ... that a civil case between Mark Aldridge and a shop owner established that a person can be liable for the defamatory comments of others on their social media posts? Source: https://www.marinolaw.com.au/defamation-say-pay/ "In a recent decision concerning defamation, namely Johnston v Aldridge [2018] SADC 68 (“Johnston”), the District Court of South Australia has found that a person can be liable for defamation as a consequence of other users’ comments on a post. The Court in that matter found that a person who makes a post which subsequently attracts defamatory comments can be liable for the defamatory imputations arising from comments as a “secondary publisher”."
Moved to mainspace by Andykusama (talk) and MCE89 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

TarnishedPathtalk 12:57, 20 September 2025 (UTC).

  • Clearly long enough, and moved to mainspace just within the window. QPQ is done. Hook is cited: I think we need to clarify the jurisdiction in any sort of hook like this, since that legal outcome only applies in South Australia. The article is fully cited: some of the sources are local news or otherwise not great quality, but I think they're fine for the weight they hold. Earwig flags a few passages, but these are direct quotations.
As a subjective matter under the criteria, I think the organisation could use some work -- we have 15 L3 subheadings to his "political career" (more than Barack Obama has), but most are only a sentence or two -- it would be much clearer to bundle them together. Similarly, the infobox isn't doing much, using only the "known for" parameter: it should probably either be filled out or removed. I think we also need to say something explicit about his political ideology. Less important for DYK, but there are a couple of oddities in the citation formatting, and use of contracted ("didn't") and bowlderised ("a**holes") forms which aren't compatible with the Wikipedia MoS. It would be advantageous to clear those up before the article hits the front page. UndercoverClassicist T·C 11:46, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
@UndercoverClassicist:, I've removed all of the sub-headings in the political career section, I've removed the infobox and I've remove the 'didn't' and 'a**holes' (The citations didn't support the statement anyway). Are we good to go? TarnishedPathtalk 11:43, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
Almost forgot that you requested an alt hook.
ALT1 ... that in a civil case between Mark Aldridge and a shop owner the District Court of South Australia found that a person can be liable for the defamatory comments of others on their social media posts? Source: https://www.marinolaw.com.au/defamation-say-pay/ "In a recent decision concerning defamation, namely Johnston v Aldridge [2018] SADC 68 (“Johnston”), the District Court of South Australia has found that a person can be liable for defamation as a consequence of other users’ comments on a post. The Court in that matter found that a person who makes a post which subsequently attracts defamatory comments can be liable for the defamatory imputations arising from comments as a “secondary publisher”."
TarnishedPathtalk 11:58, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
Given the TSI/verification question-mark, I'd like to do a check through for that later: in the meantime, I noticed the sentence Aldridge was one of the organisers of the August 2025 March For Australia rally in Adelaide, which was "hijacked" by Neo-Nazi's. Apart from the rogue apostrophe, we've got scare quotes: who said "hijacked"? They should be attributed inline: the sourcing here is important as it's a BLP. Alt hook is fine; it's just under the 200 prose character maximum. UndercoverClassicist T·C 12:16, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
@UndercoverClassicist: see Special:Diff/1317851484/1317857728 where @Andykusama: has removed the "hijacked" bit. Cheers Andy. I was thinking of doing it myself given that there are later sources where Aldridge states that he knew that the neo-nazis were involved before the protest. TarnishedPathtalk 12:56, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
@UndercoverClassicist: were there any other issues with the article or the hook which needed addressing? TarnishedPathtalk 12:21, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
I've tried to spotcheck but it seems like a lot of major sources are behind various levels of paywall. Would you mind giving me the original text to support:
  • He ran as an independent for the Legislative Council in the 2010 South Australian state election, during which time he was arrested. Aldridge subsequently ran a campaign to have the election results overturned and a new election held, during which he collecting more than a thousand statements and dispositions, and was featured by Channel 7's Today Tonight (note 2)
  • He suggested that the Nick Xenophon Team candidate may not be a real candidate because he was not present on the campaign trail, before it was revealed that the candidate had been diagnosed with bowel cancer and was forced to have a major operation, chemotherapy and radiotherapy (note 9)
  • I did manage to check Aldridge was arrested again during the campaign, and stated that he did not know why he was arrested: I'm not sure that's quite stated in the source. The closest we have is a quote from him saying "I’m not really sure what this is about, and the timing didn’t seem very appropriate ... I’ll definitely be taking action against the police for putting me in custody for no reason.". That could well be read as saying that he didn't know why the police chose to arrest him for whatever rationale it was, not that he didn't know a reason behind the arrest. Would advise cutting the "and stated" part.
  • Likewise, However, he resigned from the party several days before the election due the party's mass SMS marketing campaign, which he considered a breach of privacy: this does not check from the cited source, which says that his discontent with the SMS issue was one factor among many. UndercoverClassicist T·C 13:21, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
@UndercoverClassicist: I've edited the part concerning the 2010 South Australian election to remove "during which time he was arrested". Regarding quotes from the source in support:
Independent candidate for the Upper House, Mark Aldridge, has become a lightning rod for widespread public dissatisfaction about the controversial March 20 South Australian election and has petitioned the Court of Disputed Returns to hold a new election. The first hearing of this petition has been set for today.
and
Meanwhile, out of the spotlight, Mark Aldridge has been collecting more than a thousand statements and depositions from disgruntled and disenfranchised voters who say they did not receive their democratic rights at the March 20 election. At the same time, he is building a grassroots campaign to get the March 20 election result overturned and a new election held.
and
A few days after the election, Channel 7’s Today Tonight program did a feature on Mark Aldridge and this “dirty election”. After that, the stream of complaints became a flood as hundreds of voters contacted Aldridge to gripe about their unhappy experiences on polling day. He called for their complaints in writing and started collating the many emails and online complaints he had received. After that, statutory declarations started pouring in. In the end, he had collated over 260 pages and almost 1700 written complaints.
Regarding reference 9, I can't access the reference either unfortunately.
Regarding your third dot point, I've adjusted the sentence to read Aldridge was arrested during the campaign, but stated "I’m not really sure what this is about".
Per your fourth dot point, I've adjusted the sentence to read However, he resigned from the party several days before the election, in part due the party's mass SMS marketing campaign, which he considered a breach of privacy.
Please let me know if you have any further concerns. TarnishedPathtalk 12:21, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
@UndercoverClassicist:
@TarnishedPath:


regarding note/ref 9 (Adelaide Now) the source states: "Mr Aldridge, who is running against NXT’s Craig Bossie in the northeastern suburbs seat of Makin, sent an email saying Mr Bossie might not even be a “real” candidate.
Unfortunately for Mr Aldridge, Mr Bossie’s been quiet on the campaign trail after being diagnosed with bowel cancer and was forced to have a major operation, chemotherapy and radiotherapy. Mr Bossie said he is “very much alive and breathing” after the surprise diagnosis."
regarding leaving the Trumpet of Patriots party, the 7News story described the SMS as "the final straw" but I think "in part due to" works fine anyway.
Andykusama (talk) 00:53, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
All looks good -- thank you for the sources and adjustments there. Approved for ALT1. UndercoverClassicist T·C 14:08, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

No original research / use of primary source check

Hi.

I've made a few changes/proposed changes to the page. There were 2 elections and 3 Supreme Court petitions to postpone/overturn elections which had not been mentioned.

I've added the 2 elections (2001 and 2006) with only primary source reference, I think this is fine.

I've also added a quote from Aldridge's blog which I think is consistent with WP:BLPSELFPUB because:

  1. it is not unduly self-serving;
  2. it does not involve claims about third parties;
  3. it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the subject;
  4. there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity; and
  5. the article is not based primarily on such sources.

There are some further details about petitions to postpone/overturn elections which are covered only in primary sources (although the subject of Aldridge's subsequent petition to overturn the 2010 election is covered by secondary sources. It can be covered with statements of fact, but I'm not sure if it constitutes original research. Feedback appreciated: Wikipedia:No original research/Noticeboard#Mark Aldridge page additions Andykusama (talk) 00:03, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

@Andykusama, that noticeboard doesn't always get a lot of traffic. For BLP related topics you are generally better off posting at WP:BLP/N. TarnishedPathtalk 12:08, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
@TarnishedPath thanks for letting me know & sharing it there! Andykusama (talk) 12:13, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
No worries. TarnishedPathtalk 12:17, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
Ps, I've moved the discussion you started at WP:NOR/N to WP:BLP/N. TarnishedPathtalk 12:12, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

COI Disclosure

Hi. I am disclosing a conflict of interest in relation to this article. As outlined at WP:BLPCOI and WP:COILEGAL, I will desist from editing the page directly and will instead provide any future suggestions via the talk page. Andykusama (talk) 11:31, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

It's not at all clear what the nature of your conflict of interest is. Buddy Gripple (talk) 00:57, 29 December 2025 (UTC)
@Buddy Gripple I don't think WP:COI requires disclosure of the specific reasons for a conflict, only that one exists. The COI disclosure is being added now because the COI is recent relative to the page's history. Andykusama (talk) 12:59, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

vandalised quote

Hi. I've just noticed that in the Bushfire relief section the last line of the block quote currently reads as:

"Mark advised that he would *not* amend his Facebook post to say that it had been a misunderstanding and that Sunrise *was* at fault."

This does not match the actual quote from the source: " Mark advised that he *would* amend his Facebook post to say that it had been a misunderstanding and that Sunrise *was not* at fault."

I believe this edit was made Nov 25, 2025, 11:45 which is around the time when there were multiple unsourced edits+vandalism. This one somehow slipped through.

I've disclosed COI so will not make further edits. thanks!! Andykusama (talk) 22:53, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

@Andykusama,  Done TarnishedPathtalk 12:06, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Representation of votes when subject is on a group ticket

@TarnishedPath In 2001, 2002 and 2007 elections, Aldridge was listed first on a group ticket. As a result, above-the-line votes for the group were, in effect, votes for the first-listed candidate.

The current figures only reflect below-the-line first-preference votes, which does not represent the total support for the ticket that Aldridge was lead on. By way of comparison, it would be misleading to state that Pauline Hanson received only 0.77% of the vote at the 2016 federal election, as this excludes the 8.41% vote received by the Pauline Hanson's One Nation party via above-the-line voting (https://results.aec.gov.au/20499/Website/SenateStateFirstPrefs-20499-QLD.htm). Similarly, where a candidate heads a group ticket, a vote for the group is effectively a vote for the first listed candidate, so the group total is a more accurate reflection of Aldridge's relative popularity.

To be more precise, the figures could be based on the total group ticket vote, less any votes that did not allocate first preference to Aldridge, or alternatively the article could distinguish explicitly between group ticket votes and below the line candidate votes. Absent such clarification, the current presentation does not appear to provide an accurate reflection of these elections. ~2026-48288-9 (talk) 01:02, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

This article is about Aldridge, not the political parties he may or may not have been in tickets with. When it comes to elections, we should note the results he got, not the results of any grouping. TarnishedPathtalk 01:13, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
This doesn't represent the voting process in Australia. For example, in 2001, Mark Aldridge was on the top of a group ticket with Helen Aldridge. 489 people (0.05%) voted above the line for that ticket (the "ticket votes"), and all these votes are preferencing Mark Aldridge first and Helen Aldridge second. 200 people (rounded to 0.02%) voted below the line for Mark Aldridge. 63 people (rounded to 0.01%) voted below the line for Helen Aldridge. The group total was 752 (0.08%).
By only representing the below-the-line votes, the figures only represent below the line voters which is a very small proportion of all votes. It places too much emphasis on how people are voting not who they are voting for. Above the line voters are still voting for Mark Aldridge as the first preference, because he is at the top of that ticket. That is the way the system works.
The truly accurate figure would be ticket votes (0.05%) + below-the-line votes for Mark Aldridge (0.02%), thus only excluding below-the-line votes for Helen Aldridge. I accept that my previous suggestion of the group total was over generous. The same logic would apply to the other early elections.
AEC: When: Past Electoral Events ~2026-48288-9 (talk) 02:01, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

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