Talk:Muhammad Ghawth

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Merge proposal

Same guy as Muhammad Ghaus?

It looks like this more detailed article could be duplicated with different transliteration? See the stub article Muhammad Ghaus. Ghwath's name is sometimes spelt Ghouse.

The Ghawth article was created in April 2007; Ghaus was created in November 2008.

Have marked the Ghaus article with a duplication maintenance tag (can't find one that says "article" rather than "section"). Note that there is information in that article not found in this (Ghawth) article, though alas it is not referenced. Esowteric+Talk 08:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Merging and/or redirecting

If the material in the Muhammad Ghaus article can be referenced, then I'd maybe suggest merging it into this (Muhammad Ghawth) article and redirecting from there to here. If the material there can't be referenced, I'd maybe suggest blanking that article and inserting a redirect to here (Ghawth). Just a thought, Esowteric+Talk 08:06, 5 August 2009 (UTC) Done Have referenced most of the content in the Ghaus article; have incorporated that content and reference in this article, and have created a redirect to this article. Esowteric+Talk 12:16, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Forefathers

Have worked through and linked some of Ghawth's forefathers. The list seems to break down with the son of Isma'il ibn Jafar. I can't place the name "Nur Allah Abu Bakr al-Ajli" as his son. And I can't work the other way round (ie backwards in time) because Ghawth's father, grandfather and so on don't show in google searches. Esowteric+Talk 16:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

See Help merging. Esowteric+Talk 08:20, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

2015 IP deletion

The following paragraph was deleted without edit comment by an IP in 2015. It is somewhat tangential but not without interest. If the sources are valid we might use part of it in the article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:42, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

"Among Ghawth's disciples is Fazl Allah Shattari (also known as Shah Fazl Shattari),^[1] who wrote a biography^[2] or monograph^[3] in praise of his teacher.^[3] Gwawth taught the Mughal Emperor Humayun,^[4]^[5] and was also a tutor of the Mughal Emperor Akbar's favorite musician, Tansen. It is uncertain whether Tansen was tutored in Sufism, in music or in both, but Tansen was familiar with Sufism.^[6] Badusha, Abdul Qadir, Shahul Hamid Meeran sahib Ganjasavoy Ganja bakhsh Ganja makhfi of nagore Tamil Nadu is also one his important disciple. Muhammad Ghawth died in 1562 CE.^[5] Ghawth's tomb, in Gwalior (a city in Madhya Pradesh in India), which was built in his honour by Akbar,^[5] is a well-known tourist attraction and regarded as an excellent example of Mughal Architecture. Tansen was buried in Ghawth's tomb complex.^[6]"

References

[1]
Ernst, Carl W. (1996). "Sufism and Yoga according to Muhammad Ghawth" (PDF). University of North Carolina. Retrieved 2009-08-05. ^{[dead link]} Reproduced from Sufi 29 (Spring 1996), pp 9-13.
[2]
Chopra, Dr. Pran Nath (editor) (1976). "Life and Letters Under the Mughals". Ashajanak Publications (New Delhi). Retrieved 2009-08-05. {{cite web}}: |first= has generic name (help) See Open library details.
[3]
Hadi, Nabi (1998). Dictionary of Indo-Persian literature. Abhinav Publications. pp. 178–179. ISBN 81-7017-311-6. See google book search.
[4]
Yasin, Mohammad (1988). Reading in Indian History. Atlantic Publishers & Distributors (New Delhi). p. 42. No ISBN. ASIN: B0006ERVCA.
[5]
Hastings, James (author) and Selbie, John A. (editor) (2003). Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, Part 21. Kessinger Publishing, LLC. p. 69. ISBN 0-7661-3700-7. {{cite book}}: |first= has generic name (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link) See google book search.
[6]

@Chiswick Chap: Done here but unfortunately some urls which had been used for references got dead with time as it had been around seven years when you had proposed those changes, at the moment I am not touching those references. Hope someone having good head on their shoulder in Sufism (especially Shattari Sufism) will deal with it in future. I had self reverted those edits because most of those content which was removed were non verifiable. Thank you. 37.111.217.57 (talk) 19:44, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Same guy as Muhammad Ghaus?

Merging and/or redirecting

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