Talk:Nuevos Ferrocarriles Argentinos

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. Editors are free to start a new RM with the other suggested options. Closing this one as discussion died off without a sufficiently clear result and relisting didn't do anything. (closed by non-admin page mover) ⹃Maltazarian ^{ᚾparley${\displaystyle \lor }$investigateᛅ} 22:59, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

• Nuevos Ferrocarriles Argentinos → Ferrocarriles Argentinos
• Ferrocarriles Argentinos → Nuevos Ferrocarriles Argentinos

– I would suggest moving this article from “Nuevos Ferrocarriles Argentinos” to “Ferrocarriles Argentinos”, as the latter is both the historical and current legal name of the company.

“Nuevos Ferrocarriles Argentinos” was primarily a commercial/public branding used around 2015 in some logos and institutional communications, but it was not the formal corporate name of the state railway holding company itself. The company was legally created and has continued to operate under the name Ferrocarriles Argentinos (first as Ferrocarriles Argentinos Sociedad del Estado, later as Ferrocarriles Argentinos S.A.U.).

Per Wikipedia naming conventions, article titles should generally follow the most commonly recognized and officially established name of the subject, rather than a temporary slogan, marketing identity, or graphic brand. In this case, “Ferrocarriles Argentinos” is overwhelmingly the historically significant and legally accurate denomination used across Argentine railway history and current state documentation.

A mention of “Nuevos Ferrocarriles Argentinos” could certainly remain in the article body — for example, in a “Branding” or “History” section explaining the 2015 rebranding initiative and associated logo usage — but it does not appear appropriate as the title of the encyclopedia article itself.

I believe this move would improve accuracy, consistency with reliable sources, and alignment with Wikipedia naming practices.

REGARDS Genova1990 (talk) 23:05, 9 May 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 23:48, 16 May 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. ⹃Maltazarian ^{ᚾparley${\displaystyle \lor }$investigateᛅ} 00:48, 24 May 2026 (UTC)

Note: the following is text from Talk:Ferrocarriles Argentinos. That move request conflicted with this one, so it has been combined into this request. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. – welcome! – 23:58, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

The primary topic should remain at "Ferrocarriles Argentinos" for the current railway holding company, which is already proposed to be renamed from "Nuevos Ferrocarriles Argentinos". Therefore, the historical company article should be moved to the current "Nuevos Ferrocarriles Argentinos" title in order to preserve continuity and avoid duplication/confusion between the historical and present-day entities. Genova1990 (talk) 23:08, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

Excellent ideas, Genova! I suggest "Ferrocarriles Argentinos (1948—1995)" or "Ferrocarriles Argentinos (historic company)" (the latter being the Spanish article's name) for the former FA, and "Ferrocarriles Argentinos" for the current FA. - SleepTrain456 20:08, 21 May 2026 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Argentina and WikiProject Trains have been notified of this discussion. ⹃Maltazarian ^{ᚾparley${\displaystyle \lor }$investigateᛅ} 00:49, 24 May 2026 (UTC)