Talk:Suifenhe–Grodekovo shuttle train

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. You can locate your hook here. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected, closed by Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:29, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Train 401/402 board in 2025

• ... that rail service is available between China's Heilongjiang and Russia's Primorsky Krai?

• • ALT1: ... that an international train can transit from one country using standard gauge to another using broad gauge without changing bogies? Source: 《黑龙江省志・铁路志（1986~2005）》第四章 第一节 国际铁路客货运输
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: Based on a comprehensive review of reports from both China and Russia, using local news from Vladivostok (vl.ru), reports from Suifenhe/Mudanjiang local governments, People’s Railway Online reports, and combined with records from the 'Heilongjiang Province Gazetteer: Postal and Telecommunications Volume,' the operational history and model evolution of this train have been improved, with historical background and current status added.

HCCB3947 (talk) 13:32, 24 March 2026 (UTC).

• General eligibility:
• New enough: - See below
• Long enough: - There has not been a 5x expansion of the article; the pre-expansion version is 6,702 characters and the current version is 7,610 characters.

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - Some sections do not have inline sources.
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting: - See below

Image eligibility:

• Freely licensed:
• Used in article:
• Clear at 100px: - Not particularly clear, as it is just a sign on a traincar rather than a whole set.

Overall: Unfortunately, the article falls far short of the content expansion requirement. The ALT0 hook is not particularly interesting, but ALT1 would qualify if it was rewritten for a more general audience. SounderBruce 05:37, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

@SounderBruce: 5x expansion of the item was conducted 2 weeks ago, which falls out of the requirement, maybe I should head for appling a GA.

• I add more citaions for all lines as inline sources, so the policy compliance issue should be solved;
• I am uploading a photo of the train under CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 to replace the image in the template, so the image eligibility issue should be solved;
• Regarding on ALT1, it can be modified as ALT1a: "... that a narrow-gauge CR train can run into the Russia's Far East, which uses broad gauge?" for better understanding of all. HCCB3947 (talk) 09:32, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

• Seeing as 5x expansion is not in the cards, this nomination will need to be resubmitted once the GA review is finished. The new ALT isn't interesting to folks who aren't that knowledgeable about railways and need to be reframed for a general audience. SounderBruce 04:43, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

@SounderBruce: Thank you for your reply. You're right, I already submit the article to GA nomination. The reason why I put the hook of narrow gauge and wide gauge as ALT1 is because I think it involves some professional knowledge, so I put another one as the first hook at the beginning. That is to say, there is a railway connection between Heilongjiang in China and Primorsky Krai in Russia. I even used the form of the genus in front of it, so that people at least know the names of China and Russia, and also know what a train is. I think this question is general enough, but you think it's not interesting. So I really don't have any good points anymore. I can hardly find an ALT balance ease of understanding for the general public while also making it interesting as you think. Since you raised the question, can you come up with an idea for alt? HCCB3947 (talk) 02:44, 27 March 2026 (UTC)