Talk:Vedas

What are the vedas 2409:4066:C9E:B234:F0CA:4F0D:4F88:A6B1 (talk) 10:56, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Seconded. What a nightmare this article is. "There are four Vedas: the Rigveda, the Yajurveda, the Samaveda and the Atharvaveda." and then in the next section, "There are four "Vedic" Samhitas: the Rig-Veda, Yajur-Veda, Sama-Veda and Atharva-Veda". Are the "four types of embedded texts" also part of "a veda"?

It seems to me that referring to "Vedic texts" is very different from "Vedas" and even "the Vedas". It would be nice to have an expert clean this up and if needed make qualifying statements like "The term Veda may be used to refer to..." Alphonsoore (talk) 06:29, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

The symbol that Himanshukodwani is referring to as the Vedas is not indices-able. A close approximation to it in Western terms would be “indeterminate immediate,” “Sign,” or “Dasein”; not to be confused with the dualistic systems of exist/real or mind/body. 2600:1700:77A1:6170:A9B3:78CE:699D:1976 (talk) 15:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

What is behind the practice of completely ignoring oral traditions. For example, the Vedas were memorized thousands of generations before the invention of the written word, some experts put the origin of the Vedas 4,000BC to 40,000BC, possibly earlier. Hindu arose from the various religious traditions of the upper Indus River, "Indus" == "Hindus." Shakyamuni Buddha's sermons were memorized by his three attendants and passed down through rote memorization until writing became a popular sport. Even today, 7 years of the monastic curriculum is spent memorizing and then analyzing word-for-word. Lineage Lamas like the Dalai Lama receive teachings by memorization. Each teaching, such as those on dalailama.com, was memorized, some taking over six hours to recite. He said it took him a week to learn the 20-hour teaching he gave at Lehigh University on Tsong Kapa's Treatise. He mentions one lineage lama who memorized the entire 200 books of Wisdom Sutras. Buddha is said to have incarnated to correct some of the errors that crept in to the Vedas over millennia, such as no-self and no omnipotent being. Mind training leads to omniscience. There are teachings that have never been written down. Do they not exist because only the written word exists? Hpfeil (talk) 13:32, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

The last sentence of the second paragraph desperately needs a citation: " The Samhitas and Brahmanas describe daily rituals and are generally meant for the Brahmacharya and Gr̥hastha stages of the Chaturashrama system, while the Aranyakas and Upanishads are meant for the Vānaprastha and Sannyasa stages, respectively." SeekerYogiMa (talk) 05:43, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

@SeekerYogiMa thanks. Lead summarizes the body - so, sentences in lead don't need citations (WP:LEAD). But since this detail is not in body, it cannot be included in lead. I have moved the detail to body with citation needed tag - if no sources are found, it can be removed. Asteramellus (talk) 23:03, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

Beautiful, and thanks for sharing that info. I'm new to the editing process here. SeekerYogiMa (talk) 04:30, 5 March 2026 (UTC)