Talk:Weightlifting at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's 61 kg
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Thank you
Really appreciate user @Svefnpurka who was updating this event in real time! Philliposophy (talk) 15:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. Track your hook after promotion. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 01:08, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
- ... that both Papua New Guinea and Kiribati had their best Olympic results in the men's 61 kg weightlifting competition at the 2024 Summer Olympics?
- ALT1: ... that weightlifter Eko Yuli Irawan was touted to win his fifth-straight Olympic medal in the men's 61 kg event at the 2024 Summer Olympics? Source:
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Helene Pons
Arconning (talk) 04:51, 21 March 2026 (UTC).
New enough and large enough expansion. QPQ present. It looks like the results were better than the blurbs on Olympedia which predate Paris 2024? so that checks out. Fixed a link error on the Kiribati overview here and in the article. I strongly prefer ALT0 over ALT1. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 18:45, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Hi Sammi! I found some time and would you be able to accept this hook instead? Doing a five article joint article with this hook:
- ALT2: ... that the men's weightlifting competitions at the 2024 Summer Olympics included the 61 kg, 73 kg, 89 kg, 102 kg, and +102 kg events? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arconning (talk • contribs) 13:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Additional QPQs: Template:Did you know nominations/T. S. Denison, Template:Did you know nominations/Manuscript Society of New York, Template:Did you know nominations/Gil Mains, Template:Did you know nominations/Blø for drakta
- @Sammi Brie Previous comment was unsigned, pinging again HurricaneZetaC 02:06, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
x4 The additions are new enough and long enough, and QPQ was supplied for the extra four pages. The volume of articles should help with the interestingness factor that was lacking in ALT1 and even ALT0. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 02:13, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie and Arconning: I do not believe ALT2 is sufficiently unusual or striking (WP:DYKINT) and will insist that a better one be come up with before promoting this. Uninformed readers do not know the meaning of these mass values. In particular, "+102 kg" won't appeal to readers who are not familiar with that notation.--Jasper Deng (talk) 02:57, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Jasper Deng: Would this be more appealing? Arconning (talk) 12:45, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that Sports Illustrated correctly predicted the winners for the men's featherweight, middleweight, light-heavyweight, heavyweight, and super-heavyweight weightlifting events at the 2024 Summer Olympics?
- This would be, if you can provide a specific source for it.--Jasper Deng (talk) 19:12, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Jasper Deng: Would these suffice? Arconning (talk) 02:42, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- If it wouldn't, here'd be another hook: ALT3: ... that the men's featherweight and super-heavyweight weightlifting events at the 2024 Summer Olympics were won by their defending champions, while the middleweight, light-heavyweight, and heavyweight events were not?
- ALT3 is fine with me, if you can provide an appropriate hook citation.--Jasper Deng (talk) 19:05, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
- If it wouldn't, here'd be another hook: ALT3: ... that the men's featherweight and super-heavyweight weightlifting events at the 2024 Summer Olympics were won by their defending champions, while the middleweight, light-heavyweight, and heavyweight events were not?
- @Jasper Deng: Would these suffice? Arconning (talk) 02:42, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Jasper Deng: Would this be more appealing? Arconning (talk) 12:45, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie and Arconning: I do not believe ALT2 is sufficiently unusual or striking (WP:DYKINT) and will insist that a better one be come up with before promoting this. Uninformed readers do not know the meaning of these mass values. In particular, "+102 kg" won't appeal to readers who are not familiar with that notation.--Jasper Deng (talk) 02:57, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Hi Sammi! I found some time and would you be able to accept this hook instead? Doing a five article joint article with this hook:
, I thought we had resolution in the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know/Archive_214#2024_Olympic_weightlifting_hook, but apparently not. I've pulled this due to ungoing and as yet unresolved discussion. Curtesy pings to @AirshipJungleman29, @Arconning, @Bagumba, @Cl3phact0, @Crisco 1492, @Dclemens1971, @Epicgenius, @Launchballer, @Sammi Brie and @HurricaneZeta. TarnishedPathtalk 00:29, 16 April 2026 (UTC)
- I'm posting the alternatives which have been proposed in the other discussion to hopefully aid discussion here:
- ALT 5: ... that fifteen possible medals were awarded to thirteen different countries across the men's featherweight, middleweight, light-heavyweight, heavyweight, and super-heavyweight weightlifting events at the 2024 Summer Olympics?"
- ALT 5.1: ... that fifteen possible medals were awarded to thirteen different teams across the men's featherweight, middleweight, light-heavyweight, heavyweight, and super-heavyweight weightlifting events at the 2024 Summer Olympics" (based on the Individual Neutral Athlete bronze medal win)
- ALT 6: ... that Sports Illustrated correctly predicted the winners for the men's featherweight, middleweight, light-heavyweight, heavyweight, and super-heavyweight weightlifting events at the 2024 Summer Olympics?
- ALT 7A: ... that the 15 medalists in the the men's featherweight, middleweight, light-heavyweight, heavyweight, and super-heavyweight weightlifting events at the 2024 Summer Olympics, only four were from the same country as another medalist?
- ALT 7B: ... that of the 15 medals distributed in the the men's featherweight, middleweight, light-heavyweight, heavyweight, and super-heavyweight weightlifting events at the 2024 Summer Olympics, each country took no more than two?
- ALT8A: ... that the men's featherweight, middleweight, light-heavyweight, and super-heavyweight weightlifting events at the 2024 Summer Olympics all had twelve athletes, but the men's heavyweight had thirteen due to an invitation sent by the International Olympic Committee?
- ALT8B: ... that the men's featherweight, middleweight, light-heavyweight, heavyweight, and super-heavyweight weightlifting events at the 2024 Summer Olympics each had at least twelve spots open for athletes, though only one ended having more than twelve?
- TarnishedPathtalk 03:54, 16 April 2026 (UTC)
- I'd say I'm more inclined to either of the ALT8s as the other hooks were brought up to be somewhat "trivial" by the other editors. Arconning (talk) 06:44, 16 April 2026 (UTC)
- I'd go with ALT8A, but I note that the absence of a host entry is also mentioned in that article. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 08:01, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
- My concern remains on whether reliable, independent sources mention these claims about the aggregated events, or is this WP:OR, going beyond 1+1=2 basic WP:CALCs?—Bagumba (talk) 17:02, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Bagumba: @TarnishedPath: Due to the length of this nomination still being up, I'm willing to create hook for each individual article instead to remove the concern of WP:OR. Let me know if that's alright. Arconning (talk) 09:37, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- I'd say I'm more inclined to either of the ALT8s as the other hooks were brought up to be somewhat "trivial" by the other editors. Arconning (talk) 06:44, 16 April 2026 (UTC)
Since there's been a lengthy discussion... hooks shall now be for each individual article. Arconning (talk) 09:21, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
Weightlifting at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's 61 kg
- ALT9a: ... that both Papua New Guinea and Kiribati had their best Olympic results in the men's 61 kg weightlifting competition at the 2024 Summer Olympics? Source:
Weightlifting at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's 73 kg
- ALT9b: ... that in the lead-up to the men's 73 kg weightlifting competition at the 2024 Summer Olympics, the gold medal favourite was eliminated in the last qualifying tournament?" Source:
Weightlifting at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's 89 kg
- ALT9c: ... that the Moldovan government allocated 1.8 million lei to support a case regarding the men's 89 kg weightlifting competition at the 2024 Summer Olympics? Source:
Weightlifting at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's 102 kg
- ALT9d: ... that in the men's 102 kg weightlifting competition at the 2024 Summer Olympics, the "man to beat" was beaten? Source:
Weightlifting at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's +102 kg
- ALT9e: ... that Lasha Talakhadze became the fifth weightlifter to win three consecutive Olympic gold medals after winning the men's +102 kg weightlifting competition at the 2024 Summer Olympics? Source:
ALT2: ... that the oldest weightlifter at the 2024 Summer Olympics competed in the men's superheavyweight category?" Source:
- Reviewing only Weightlifting at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's +102 kg. I checked the source, but it does not seem to directly mention that Kučera was the oldest weightlifter in Paris? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:22, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: It should be fixed now. Arconning (talk) 02:20, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- I appreciate the new source, but the issue is that it's a superlative hook and I'm not sure if BarBend is reliable enough for such a strong claim. Ideally we need more sources. Will you be able to find others? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:38, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Probably not, removing the hook now.. Arconning (talk) 03:28, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
I've numbered the latest round of individual hooks and I am approving ONLY ALT9b and ALT9d. ALT9a does not pass DYKINT because every country that participates in the Olympics will have some area of "best results". ALT9c is not particularly interesting since 1.8 million lei equates to about US$100,000, and that is not a spectacular amount to allocate for litigation in the world of international sport authorities. ALT9e is pumped up as "historic" by the source, but being the 5th person to reach a particular accomplishment is not especially unusual or intriguing. Given that this has now passed the DYKTIMEOUT threshold, I do not recommend further workshopping of hooks. (Note to promoter: one or both of these will need to be promoted manually as PSHAW will only work on one. Please be sure the correct article is labeled in the prep area template.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:56, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Probably not, removing the hook now.. Arconning (talk) 03:28, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
- I appreciate the new source, but the issue is that it's a superlative hook and I'm not sure if BarBend is reliable enough for such a strong claim. Ideally we need more sources. Will you be able to find others? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:38, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
GA review
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- This review is transcluded from Talk:Weightlifting at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's 61 kg/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: Arconning (talk · contribs) 10:35, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
Reviewer: TheBritinator (talk · contribs) 14:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
Hello I will review this. Please give me time to go through the article and I will leave comments as I go. TheBritinator (talk) 14:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Arconning Article looks good, not really anything I think I need to comment on. There's one source that needs clarification but other than that it should be good to pass. TheBritinator (talk) 18:21, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
- @TheBritinator Added a source, decided not to move the medalists to be consistent with the other articles. Arconning (talk) 07:06, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
- Sure, no worries. Source looks good now, so I'm going to pass this. Good work. TheBritinator (talk) 16:05, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
- @TheBritinator Added a source, decided not to move the medalists to be consistent with the other articles. Arconning (talk) 07:06, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
Lead/infobox
- Lead feels a bit bottom-heavy. Perhaps the medallists could be moved up to the lede instead?
- Rest seems good.
Background & Results
- Looks good, nothing sticks out to me here.
Scope
Seems to cover all the bases.
Neutrality
All prose is appears neutral and without bias.
Stability
No sign of active edit wars.
Illustration
File:Weightlifting at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's 61 kg.webp Bit of an unconventional way of getting these but its got VRT.
References
- ? 2 (Xinhua): It says that he broke the record but I don't see 175 kilograms, unless I am missing something.
8 (Sports Illustrated): Checks out.
13 (Tokyo Organising Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games): Checks out, I think.
18 (Olympedia): Checks out.