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Yeah Yeah Yeahs (EP)

I've listed this article for peer review because I believe I have expanded it with all the readily available sources in a neutral way or stated facts, and want an opinion on if the article is currently in a state good enough to push for a good article review.

Thanks, Watagwaan (talk) 16:55, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

Comments from Z1720

  • The RollingStone reference is used twice in the article (refs 5 and 16): these should be merged.
  • The first paragraph of the "Reception" section suffers from a repetitive "X said Y" format. WP:RECEPTION has some advice on how to avoid that.

Otherwise, I think this is find to bring to WP:GAN. Consider reviewing articles listed there to clear the backlog, build goodwill amongst reviewers, and make it more likely that your article will be noticed. Z1720 (talk) 20:37, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you very much for looking @Z1720! I did my best to change the "Reception" section per WP:RECEPTION and wanted your feedback on it? I'm going to submit the article for GA review, thank you so much! Watagwaan (talk) 15:28, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Nominator: Watagwaan (talk · contribs) 15:29, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

GA review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Yeah Yeah Yeahs (EP)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ceoil (talk · contribs) 13:26, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Initial comments:

  • The prose is crisp and clear, no worries there, though may have nitpicks later at the end of the review.
Thank you! Please give me nitpicks.
  • Good use of high quality sources.
Thank you! I tried my best.
  • Earwig doesn't pick up anything troublesome.
Thank any god up above.
  • I do have some gripes
  • In the lead you say (often mistitled as Master) but downt see this in the article body (everything in the lead should be in the body)
I did include it in the Background and recording section!
  • From "Music and lyrics": Yeah Yeah Yeahs is an alternative rock, art punk, garage rock, and indie rock EP.[7][9] - would drop this as the best place for genre wars is the infobox.
Awesome, removed.
  • You could better explain how they broke out, ie from a self-finance ep to a contract with Touch and Go. Some of the dates and stats are fuzzy about which release is being referred to. Would be interested to know
  • Who paid for the recording
  • Did the initial release sell anything
  • How did they hook up with touch and go
  • More detail on the design of the sleeve and who was the photographer
  • What was the promotional approach for both the initial and T&G releases
I've been doing more research since nominating for review since I figured it would probably be minor additions that I could sub-in, but I'm having a bit of trouble finding sources for it. Maybe it's because I don't know any books.

I think this is very close to GA, but suspect it might be headed to FAC, so it might be a bit tougher if that's ok...more later Ceoil (talk) 23:37, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

I'm flattered but I feel like this article might be a fluke. If it goes for FAC I think I'd get reamed.
No, your close. I think focus on this relatively "narrow" article as the next trial balloon and you will likely get there. But it does need a broader perspective in terms of the date of sources being used. Ceoil (talk) 01:00, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
I do agree with you about the sources… I'm gonna do the world's biggest deep dive on this now. Watagwaan (talk) 11:39, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Sources:

  • Your using the very old-fashioned cite web ref template...which is a html mess and makes editing and copyediting very, very difficult. Consider something more sparse like snf.
Got it. You would've HATED what I did for the YYYs article.
  • The sources are all from the web, and they are mostly contemporary. Yet there are a few comprehensive books published since that would have a broader view and more insight into the band's trajectory at the time. Contemporary sources lack perspective for one. Ceoil (talk) 23:53, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
    I definitely want to look into more book sources, I just don't know many. I'll try to find some and maybe even purchase them or find accessible PDFs! Thank you again @Ceoil! Watagwaan (talk) 00:57, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
    I have a few books and can scan pages if it helps. Will be a few days though as myself and the mrs are away for a trip from saturday :) 01:03, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
    @Ceoil I hope you have the most fun ever! If you could drop names of the books I could search them myself, and it'd also give me an idea of the kind of titles to search. Thank you so much for reviewing, again! Watagwaan (talk) 11:41, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
    My bad re available books; had done a half-hearted Google search and came up with false positives such as . Anyway, this is easily GA-standard in breadth of research, use of sources, and clear writing. Nice work and hope to see it at PR at some stage. Ceoil (talk) 21:30, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Pre-FAC review

Re-release

The first sentence of this paragraph is a bit confusing - "Yeah Yeah Yeahs was received positively by critics and ranked by The New York Times and NME among the best releases of 2002. It initially received little attention but became a sleeper hit after its reissue, topping the UK Indie Chart and exceeding sales of 71,000 units in the United States by the end of the decade." - Maybe...The EP received little critical attention and sold poorly until.....Ceoil (talk) 21:32, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

I like this! Changing. Watagwaan (talk) 00:11, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
The new wording is crystal clear. Ceoil (talk) 22:16, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Cite errors

I don't really understand why, but the two AV Club refs are throwing up errors for me...

(Media notes). {{cite AV media notes}}: Missing or empty |title= (help): CS1 maint: others in cite AV media (notes) Ceoil (talk) 22:15, 16 April 2026 (UTC)
Ceoil I looked at the page on like, five different browsers, and that's not showing up for me. If you want, you could try to fix it on your end? Watagwaan? I really like the color red! 11:34, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
no problem. Ceoil (talk) 13:38, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

Source check

Starting as of

  • Claim The artwork and packaging were designed by the band and Crispin. Source: "Yeah Yeah Yeahs (CD liner notes). Yeah Yeah Yeahs. Shifty. 2001
  • Not finding anywhere who this "Crispin" is. Does he have a full name/website? Ceoil (talk) 22:34, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
You and me both. I have not been able to, for the life of me, find who "Crispin" is. My best guess is that it's a ghost credit, since the photos look like they were taken by the bands themselves. But the "Crispin" person is credited with every release, hence why I added it.
  • ok with this. Ceoil (talk) 21:30, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
  • Claim: The band co-composed "Mystery Girl" with Jack Martin, a session guitarist. Source: " DeVille, Chris (September 24, 2020) & "Watch Yeah Yeah Yeahs play "Our Time" at their first show, 20 years ago today". Stereogum.
  • Dahlen describes Jack Martin as a "guest guitarist". Ceoil (talk) 22:34, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
I'll clarify that he's just a guitarist, then. In my head, session guitarist made more sense since it was that one song he co-wrote and appeared with the band in live performances SUPER early in their career.
Session guitarist implies a professional industry heavyweight, but it sounds like he was just a friend of the band. Ceoil (talk) 21:30, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
  • Claim: Mystery Girl is about a sexually-promiscuous woman. Source "Sheffield, Rob (July 16, 2002). "Yeah Yeah Yeahs". Rolling Stone"
  • Paywalled, can you email a screenshot of the passage pls Ceoil (talk) 22:34, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
The Rolling Stone source is good... but I didn't actually mean to put it here for the "sexually promoscious woman" claim. Ignore that, I removed it.
Fine with this. Ceoil (talk) 21:34, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
  • Claim: "Although the EP is self-titled, it is sometimes mistitled as Master due to the necklace Karen O wears on the cover, or as Bang after its opening track.[5][6]" Sources: "Yeah Yeah Yeahs". Clash. January 5, 2006. & Breihan, Tom (July 9, 2021). "The Yeah Yeah Yeahs EP turns 20". Stereogum.

Think the Mark Bowan quote "we ...were amazed they had no record deal [and] flew to America" currently in the notes should be paraphrased and brought into the article body. Breakthrough stories are always interesting, bring the page alive, and have juice for readability... similarly, was thinking that the later statement "Although the then unknown band did not anticipate its success" is a bit dry and leaves too much unsaid (amid all the chart stats and he-said/she-said reviews). Ceoil (talk) 21:44, 23 April 2026 (UTC)

More gold in an earlier note...ie that the reordings were essentially demos that took off..."Our first EP was recorded as a demo, so we could get shows at cool clubs opening up for bigger bands. That was literally our aspiration." Would bring this into the main article. Ceoil (talk) 22:06, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
Brought quotes into main article, and sorry @Ceoil but I really don't want to split up "Music and lyrics" like that. Other than that, though, everything should be addressed! Watagwaan? I really like the color red! 00:49, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
No probs Watagwaan, you are prob right and push-back is healthy. Reviewers are not always right. Ceoil (talk) 00:57, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
I now think the article is ready for FAC. Ceoil (talk) 00:59, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
Then I'll submit it! Thank you so much @Ceoil! I will ping Z1720 also! Watagwaan? I really like the color red! 01:05, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
Delighted, but be prepared for slow and sometimes hurtful responses; its the way wiki works but feedback is always welcome, Ceoil (talk) 01:12, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

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