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Happy editing! Kovcszaln6 (talk) 14:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi ADeeperUnderstanding, I noticed your recent edit to Tel Haror. Sentences three to five are very close to the cited source, with minimal changes. Though it is not a long section, I don't think it is covered by WP:LIMITED, especially as the structure of the three sentences in question is the same. Please could you summarise the text in your own words to avoid copyright problems. Richard Nevell (talk) 19:34, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Okay @Richard Nevell I have made some changes. Hope this works okay. let me know if it's all good yeah? ADeeperUnderstanding (talk) 20:15, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

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Huldra (talk) 20:08, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi, in this edit to History of ancient Israel and Judah you use {{Sfn|Byrne|2004|pp=170–172, 188}} and {{Sfn|Finkelstein|Silberman|1992|pp=295, 307}}. Unfortunately no such works "Byrne 2004" and "Finkelstein & Silberman 1992" are listed as sources. This means that nobody can look the references up, and also that the article is added to Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors. If you could supply the missing sources it would be appreciated. DuncanHill (talk) 11:17, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

I've been having a little phase recently of learning about biblical history, and I noticed your very recent contributions to the History of ancient Judah and Israel page. I just wanted to thank you for all your efforts!! It's very detailed and gives a lot of good information. Keep up the good work! SanKanshi (talk) 08:48, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

@SanKanshi Hello friend and apologies I didn't answer this earlier, I see I am replying about half a year late! I am very glad you found the contributions helpful. What brings you to this topic? With health! ADeeperUnderstanding (talk) 11:36, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for replying even if it's late :) I am still on my religious studies grind. My dad is a biblical literalist and I grew up being taught literalism, so I wanted to have a more historically grounded understanding of the true origins of the Israelites / Jewish people. As always keep up the good work :) SanKanshi (talk) 19:54, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi ADeeperUnderstanding. Thank you for your work on Qla'. Another editor, Uncle Bash007, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

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Uncle Bash007 (talk) 08:20, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

Hello! Your submission of Qla' at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 16:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I've added Khirbat Khudash, which is linked to Qla'. Bolter21 (talk to me) 10:10, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

Oh beautiful! thank you for your good work, my friend. looks like Qla' is not an orphan anymore! ADeeperUnderstanding (talk) 11:14, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

Thanks! would like to share with you that I have been laying out some frameworks for background articles concerning the archaeological periods in the Southern Levant/Palestine/Israel etc. You can see it here: User:Bolter21/sandbox. Seeing that you have been creating many articles on the Iron Age, I was wondering you think you can help in some way to create a proper Iron Age Southern Levant (possibly separate Iron I and Iron II) article, which I think would serve as a framework for regional history and archaeology. It would be based mostly on tertriary sources - handbooks and outline articles. I am busy in real life so it is a long-term project., but I think that the outline of the article and the collection of the sources will allow it to grow organically. Bolter21 (talk to me) 16:37, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

Firstly, I want to say you are doing some great work in adding to articles. I do, though, want to bring MOS:VAR and MOS:ERA to your attention. At Samaria (ancient city), it uses BC/AD but your additions used BCE/CE. MOS:VAR says "When either of two styles is acceptable it is generally considered inappropriate for a Wikipedia editor to change from one style to another unless there is some substantial reason for the change" and MOS:ERA adds "Use either the BC–AD or the BCE–CE notation consistently within the same article". I went and made the article consistant again. Be mindful in future edits and have a quick look to see which era style the article uses. Thanks! Masterhatch (talk) 16:20, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out, and no worries, I will make sure to keep an eye on the era notation in the future. Appreciate you taking the time to make it consistent again. I will be mindful next time I edit! ADeeperUnderstanding (talk) 15:00, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

I just changed BCE to BC at Siege of Jerusalem (587 BC). Please be mindful of MOS:VAR. Masterhatch (talk) 15:14, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

And again at Samaria (ancient city) Masterhatch (talk) 15:21, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

Why are you restoring OR maps? It doesn't matter if you think they're "fine"; it matters if they're sourced, and these aren't. If you follow the Commons iterations back, it's ultimately unsourced, and so fails WP:V. Iskandar323 (talk) 10:51, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi ADeeperUnderstanding. There are a couple of issue with the references in Tekoa (ancient town). You added the references "Rogers 2022" and "Wenning 2025" but no such cites exist in the article. Did you mean "Rogers 2021" (For the Freedom of Zion: The Great Revolt of Jews against Romans, 66–74 CE) and "Wenning 2021" (Materialien zu den eisenzeitlichen Gräbern in Israel/Palästina)?
These issues produce error messages, but they're off by default. If you are going to be working with short form references like {{sfn}} can I suggest you turn them on. You can find the instructions on how to do so here, just ask if you have any questions. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 02:50, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

Sorry there's a few more.
In Samaria (ancient city) you added "Crowfoot, Kenyon & Sukenik 1941", there is a "Crowfoot, Kenyon & Sukenik 1942" in that article is that what you meant? In the same article you added "de Vaux 1967", I can't find anything not match this could you let me know what work it refers to? -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 03:15, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out, my friend. I fixed the two issues in Samaria by adding the de Vaux source and correcting the year (1942 is the correct one). ADeeperUnderstanding (talk) 10:53, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

In History of ancient Israel and Judah you added "Byrne 2004" and "Finkelstein & Silberman 1992". There's no Byrne cites in the article, there are two works by "Finkelstein & Silberman" (The Bible unearthed : archaeology's new vision of ancient Israel and the origin of its stories and Temple and Dynasty: Hezekiah, the Remaking of Judah and the Rise of the Pan-Israelite Ideology) but neither are dated 1992. Could you let me know which works you meant? -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 03:17, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

Fine so the two issues are now resolved. I added the missing Byrne to the bibliography and corrected the year of Finkelstein & Silberman (2002 is correct, 1992 is not) ADeeperUnderstanding (talk) 11:12, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

In Jewish–Roman wars you added you added "Schwartz 2016", "Feldman 1996", "Daschke 2010", and "Goldenberg 2006". I can't find anything for that matches for Schwartz or Feldman, there are other cities in the article for them but nothing that matches the pages numbers. Daschke and Goldenberg are completely missing.
Sorry for dropping all this in one go, but it's easier than someone trying to work it all out in a few years from now. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 03:24, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

@ActivelyDisinterested Okay, I am done copying the bibliographic entries for Schwartz, Feldman, and Daschke from First Jewish Revolt, Timeline of the name Palestine, and Bar Kokhba revolt. Everything should be fixed now. Can you check if everything looks good? Do you see any other reference issues that I still need to resolve? ADeeperUnderstanding (talk) 11:30, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

I've fixed the issues with Tekoa as well. You caught it perfectly, both dates should be 2021. All solved now I hope. ADeeperUnderstanding (talk) 11:41, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks ADeeperUnderstanding, everything works good now. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 13:33, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for your undisclosed use of a large language model to generate unchecked content, including fabricated citations (listed in the above section; see permalink), that you inserted into multiple articles.

If you believe that there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  — Newslinger talk 04:57, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Note that Special:Diff/1296357692/1297003018 in History of ancient Israel and Judah was also flagged by another editor as AI-generated. — Newslinger talk 05:02, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

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Apologies, @Newslinger:. I believe there has been a serious misunderstanding here, and I would like to clarify: None of the citations mentioned were fabricated, and none of them were generated by an LLM! The problems pointed out by ActivelyDisinterested all come from two causes: The main one is HARV/SFN errors caused by my own mistakes: in several cases I entered the wrong year (for instance typing 2022 instead of 2021) or made a typo in an author's name so there is misaligment between the bibliography item and the sfn/harvnb. Nothing fabricated, just mistakes in the entering of the fields! The second type of error comes from cases where I adapted content from one article to another (for example in Jewish–Roman wars, to which I took adaptations of content from Bar Kochba Revolt and First Jewish Revolt). In doing so, I rewrote or copied the relevant SFNs but forgot to copy the corresponding bibliography entries (cite book / cite journal templates). This resulted in broken references, and that was not my intention... I was away for the holidays and away from my computer, but I had planned to correct the harv errors and the missing bibliography items as soon as I could.

Regarding the article History of Ancient Israel and Judah: I explained on the article talk page what happened there. I did not use an LLM to generate any content. All the content is mine, written after reading the sources. What I did use an LLM for was limited to improving phrasing, to make the English (I am not a native speaker) sound more encyclopedic. I worked sentence by sentence and always checked that the meaning and sourcing remained unchanged and verifiable. Nothing there is fabricated either!

I appreciate the concern for the project, but the claim that I made an "undisclosed use of a large language model to generate unchecked content, including fabricated citations, inserted into multiple articles" is very mistaken (I'd be happy to know how this conclusion was reached!). The underlying issue here is citation-handling errors, not source invention.

If unblocked, I am willing to refrain from using LLMs entirely (I did not know editors cannot use them for improving phrasing!), or at the very least not use them on cited content and to be explicit on talk pages about any limited language assistance. ADeeperUnderstanding (talk) 10:37, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Accept reason:

Hi ADeeperUnderstanding, invalid citations are a frequent result of inserting unchecked LLM-generated content into articles (which is why it is a prominent part of the G15 speedy deletion criterion). When this happens across four different articles, one of which was flagged by another editor for the other signs of AI writing in your edits, including a sudden switch to title-case headings (e.g. Special:Diff/1291458249) and word choices that are more typical of AI (e.g. "align with", "enduring impact", and "fostering" in History of ancient Israel and Judah), I concluded that the invalid citations were also a result of LLM use. Taking a second look at this after reading your appeal, I believe your use of the VisualEditor to make all of the edits in question (except this one) supports your explanation that your LLM use was limited to superficial phrasing changes, given how inefficient the VisualEditor is for adding LLM-generated content into Wikipedia (and for handling {{sfn}} templates), and I am accepting your unblock request.

To prevent any misunderstandings in the future, when you make an edit that uses LLM outputs in any way, please disclose the name and version of the LLM that you used, as well as an explanation of how the LLM was used for the edit, in the edit summary (and, if used in a discussion comment, also in the comment itself). It is not clear to me where "Daschke 2010" and "Goldenberg 2006" in Special:Diff/1312208860 Special:Diff/1296928853, and "de Vaux 1967" in Special:Diff/1312208860, were copied from, but I trust that you will add the necessary bibliography entries when you get a chance. Thank you for your understanding. — Newslinger talk 17:49, 17 January 2026 (UTC); corrected diff 01:21, 18 January 2026 (UTC)