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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ekrem Koldaş (July 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by AlphaBetaGamma was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

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AlphaBetaGamma (Talk/report any mistakes here) 14:30, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

Hello, EKoldas! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! AlphaBetaGamma (Talk/report any mistakes here) 14:30, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

Orania - Afrikaner or white separatist

The inclusion of "white separatist" in the first sentence of the lead of Orania was determined in 2022 RFC. You can read the RFC at Talk:Orania/Archive 3#RfC: What should the first sentence be?. Part of the problem is that a lot of the coverage in so-called "reliable" sources is written by people who are writing for an audience of Americans and Europeans. So they focus on skin colour because their audiences relate to that issue. Wikipedia policy is that articles should be based on what reliable sources say (see Wikipedia:Core content policies), so if most reliable sources express Orania in terms of being "white separatist", then the article is likely to say just that.

If you want to change the first sentence of the article, you should start a new RFC. The page Wikipedia:Requests for comment tells you have to do this. It would be entirely appropriate to start a new RFC because:

It has been about three years since the last RFC.
There has been discussion on the talk page about how inappropriate the first sentence is given that the people of Orania identify as "Afrikaners" and "Boers", not as white.

My advice is to look at what reliable sources have said during the last three years (i.e. after the last RFC), and perhaps also to see whether higher quality sources give more accurate coverage than left-wing newspapers such as The Guardian.-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:20, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the guidance, much appreciated. I’ll take your advice on board and follow the process as suggested. EKoldas (talk) 07:26, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ekrem Koldaş has been accepted

Ekrem Koldaş, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Gommeh 🎮 18:12, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

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