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Geoff Lane
| If you feel that I have reverted an edit or issued a warning in error, please click here and let me know. I do make mistakes. Please don't interpret a reversion or warning on my part as a personal attack on you; it's not. Please bring any error to my attention as I am always open to civil discussion. (I will respond here on my talk page unless you request otherwise.) No worries, mate. Geoff |
Question from Uncreativenaming (08:08, 15 May 2026)
You mentor, me mentee smth. Anyway, what would you recommend in the case of proving a negative? Providing a reliable source for "x has never happened" is pretty much impossible. --Uncreativenaming (talk) 08:08, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Uncreativenaming: Dive that rabbit hole: Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)#Proving_a_negative. But seriously, see Wikipedia:Verifiability. If there is no reliable source for a fact, that fact does not belong in a Wikipedia article. Geoff | Who, me? 13:31, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
- ^ thanks
- How would you recommend I describe (in my edit notes) removing stuff that repeats itself to make a point.
- For instance: The dictionary is now a standard reference resource in the profession, used globally by social work professionals
- Vs: The dictionary is now a standard reference resource in the profession. Uncreativenaming (talk) 02:38, 21 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Uncreativenaming: Try either and see what response, if any, then handle per: Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. Geoff | Who, me? 03:30, 21 May 2026 (UTC)
- ^ thanks again
- Any idea how to format this mess? (It's a quote with a quote inside it with a quote inside it with a quote inside it.)
- "Umm Darda was a regular guest of Abd al-Malik, and he would ask her questions about the Prophet, peace be upon him. He said, "He arose one night and called his maid. However, she wasn't fast enough for him, so he cursed her. In response, she said, "Do not curse, for Abud-Darda relayed to me that he heard the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, say, "Those who curse will not be witnesses or interceders on the Day of Judgement."""" Uncreativenaming (talk) 12:40, 21 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Uncreativenaming: See the Manual of Style article: Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Quotation marks. Geoff | Who, me? 13:18, 21 May 2026 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
Question from Oreoiscool99 (18:16, 19 May 2026)
How do i speedy delete something? --Oreoiscool99 (talk) 18:16, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Oreoiscool99: Start by reading about the process: Wikipedia:Deletion_process. Be sure that the article meets the criteria for speedy deletion, as outlined in the article Wikipedia:Speedy_deletion. The section within that article, Wikipedia:Speedy_deletion#Requesting_speedy_deletion, explains how to tag an article with one (or more) of the criteria for speedy deletion. Geoff | Who, me? 19:06, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
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Question from Jaypet12 (14:11, 26 May 2026)
Hi I noticed that the Wikipedia article "Old Lee High School (Massachusetts)" is wrong and that a new one should be created for the Lee Middle and High School since they merged with the middle school the old article should also have all the current info moved from that article to the new one since the old building is no longer the school it moved across town how would I do this. Thank you, Jay --Jaypet12 (talk) 14:11, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Jaypet12: Well, you’ve managed to muddle things up by moving the article twice, as shown in its history. If you wanted to create a new article about the current school, you could start here: Help:Your_first_article, which will help you decide whether the topic you want to write about is suitable for a Wikipedia article. If your subject is suitable for Wikipedia, you can choose the option to create a draft and submit it for review by other editors as a part of the "Articles for Creation" project (WP:AFC). The members of this project are experienced editors, though there is much greater demand for their services than there is supply, so you may need to wait a while before your draft is reviewed.
- Note that using an LLM, such as ChatGPT, etc., to create or edit an article is prohibited: Wikipedia:Writing_articles_with_large_language_models.
- Once you submit your draft, it will be placed into a category where it will be open for review by anyone who reviews submissions. If your submission is approved (which may take more than 3 months because of the current backlog) then an editor will accept it, and you will be notified of the article's creation. If your submission is not accepted, a note will be left on the page describing what can be improved, and you will be notified of this via a message on your "Talk" page.
- Once the draft is accepted, you could reconstitute the existing article into an article about the historical school with a link to the new article. Geoff | Who, me? 14:27, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
Question from Buzzybeegamer22 (18:35, 26 May 2026)
Hello, i've recently taken interest in editing wikipeda; as i have been relying on wikipedia for years and would like to contribute to my favourite website. I would like to know how to link arctiles; as i have just publish some edits and would like to reference them to other articles. Thanks, buzzy --Buzzybeegamer22 (talk) 18:35, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Buzzybeegamer22: My first suggestion is that you slow down, as most of your edits so far have been adding wiki links, some of them questionable. For example, this edit to R. Austin Freeman created a wiki link to the Brothers Grimm fairy tale, but what you linked in the article was a chapter title of the work, The Singing Bone (1912), by the author. It may be a story title taken from the title of the Grimm tale, but Freeman's story is something other than a German fairy tale. The context is inappropriate, if you get my meaning. I fear that many of your other links have the same issue and I suggest going back over your contributions to re-think and perhaps undo your link creations. See this article section in the Manual of Style on overlinking: Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Linking#What_generally_should_not_be_linked. Geoff | Who, me? 19:38, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- so sorry genuinely thought that it liked to the right thing ill recheck all my edits too eager for my own good :) Buzzybeegamer22 (talk) 20:38, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
Question from Arhenry93 (18:36, 28 May 2026)
Hi Geoff, I have been going through the suggested edits feature and been adding some citations that I could find after research. I have been suggested Woooo! as a page that needs a source for its Plot section. I have looked at a couple of other pages for other HIMYM individual episodes and they don't have sources for their plot section. Would I be okay removing the maintenance template that says it has no sources? --Arhenry93 (talk) 18:36, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Arhenry93: I assume you read the general guide: Help:Maintenance_template_removal. The best thing to do is to find reliable sources for the plot section of the article and adding them before removing the maintenance tag. That other articles (a) have no references and (b) have no maintenance tags is not a good reason to remove the tag. Ideally, facts in Wikipedia's articles are supported by references so that the readers can verify the facts for themselves by reading the sources cited. Geoff | Who, me? 18:43, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah I read that guide, and was going off of point 9 under "When to Remove" as the only other plot summaries I could find that I could reference were to the HIMYM fandom wiki, or IMDB, which either points back to wikipedia itself, or doesn't have as much detail. I assume that the plot summary came from someone actually watching the episode, and as far as I can tell, I can't cite a TV episode itself? Arhenry93 (talk) 18:52, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Arhenry93: Well, see the Manual of Style (MOS) section on plot summaries. Given that Wikipedia is not for something you made up, having reliable sources prevents fiction and opinion presented as fact. The MOS section includes the statement: "Plot summaries, and other aspects of a program's content, such as its credits, may be sourced from the works themselves, as long as only basic descriptions are given". If the episode can still be viewed, then it could be a source for a plot summary, is what this means to me. But see the case of lost or unavailable episodes which cannot be viewed. Those need secondary sources. This is all about verifiability. Wikipedia has no paid staff of fact-checkers and editors who verify facts in the articles. Just volunteers like you and me. Geoff | Who, me? 19:32, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah I read that guide, and was going off of point 9 under "When to Remove" as the only other plot summaries I could find that I could reference were to the HIMYM fandom wiki, or IMDB, which either points back to wikipedia itself, or doesn't have as much detail. I assume that the plot summary came from someone actually watching the episode, and as far as I can tell, I can't cite a TV episode itself? Arhenry93 (talk) 18:52, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
Question from Ageratina (20:08, 31 May 2026)
Hello. I would like to add an article on a historical figure who left a substantial number of unpublished watercolours of Haitian flora and fauna. The 18th- century French engineer is mentioned in one published book on architecture in Haiti, and his natural history work is the subject of a major research project (with a website). The watercolours are available on Internet Archive. I would like some advice on establishing notability. --Ageratina (talk) 20:08, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Ageratina: The best way is to start here: Help:Your first article, which will help you decide whether the topic you want to write about is suitable for a Wikipedia article. If your subject is suitable for Wikipedia, you can choose the option to create a draft and submit it for review by other editors as a part of the "Articles for Creation" project (WP:AFC). The members of this project are experienced editors, though there is much greater demand for their services than there is supply, so you may need to wait a while before your draft is reviewed.
- It might also help if you read the general notability guideline: Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. This essay on source criteria, Wikipedia:GNG source criteria, might also prove helpful.
- Note that using an LLM, such as ChatGPT, etc., to create or edit an article is prohibited: Wikipedia:Writing articles with large language models.
- Once you submit your draft, it will be placed into a category where it will be open for review by anyone who reviews submissions. If your submission is approved (which may take more than 3 months because of the current backlog) then an editor will accept it, and you will be notified of the article's creation. If your submission is not accepted, a note will be left on the page describing what can be improved, and you will be notified of this via a message on your "Talk" page.
- Note that if you are interested in the publication of an article to which you are very close (e.g., an article about a member of your family, your business, your club/organization/school, or yourself) you probably have a conflict of interest: if so, it will be absolutely critical that you disclose this when you create the article. Please see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest for information about doing so properly. If you do not do this, your user account may become permanently blocked and the article may be deleted.
- Please let me know if you have further questions. Thank you for your interest in Wikipedia, and welcome to the community! Good luck! Geoff | Who, me? 21:08, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks Geoff. I have completed an article in the Sandbox. The article is based on current research. I have only added one image as a test. The images are available for free use on the web - Permissions grant world-wide rights for nonexclusive use of the images, including e-book publications, in all languages, editions and formats or productions. Authorization is required for any subsequent use of the reproductions. I am not sure about how to best add captions etc, so that would appreciate some suggestions. I would, however, like to review the uploading to Wikimedia with the librarians. I am assuming I can add additional images later? Ageratina (talk) 23:12, 1 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Ageratina: About this sandbox draft: User:Ageratina/sandbox. You can add any image from Commons, as all image files on Commons are free to use. Since the descriptions on Commons contain all information about the images and copyrights, you need only add the simple descriptive caption and need not repeat all the origin information. In other words, your image could simply be captioned something like: "Peut-on-voir (Hispaniolan Nightjar) by René Gabriel de Rabié". Right-clicking on the image in the draft article links to the Commons file page, which includes the description and origins, so no need to repeat all that for each image in an article. Once you are ready to submit your draft for review, it can be moved to draftspace from your own sandbox and then submitted (you'll need move permission to do this, which will automatically attach to your user account when you have made 6 more edits over another 4 days on Wikipedia itself). Moving a page is explained here: Wikipedia:Moving_a_page. To submit a draft once moved, follow the instructions under "Submitting for review" in this article: Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation. All articles, including drafts, can be edited by any volunteer at any time and most are gradually edited and improved over time. So, yes, you could add images later. Geoff | Who, me? 04:11, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks Geoff. I have completed an article in the Sandbox. The article is based on current research. I have only added one image as a test. The images are available for free use on the web - Permissions grant world-wide rights for nonexclusive use of the images, including e-book publications, in all languages, editions and formats or productions. Authorization is required for any subsequent use of the reproductions. I am not sure about how to best add captions etc, so that would appreciate some suggestions. I would, however, like to review the uploading to Wikimedia with the librarians. I am assuming I can add additional images later? Ageratina (talk) 23:12, 1 June 2026 (UTC)
Air Foyle affair
Let me start by saying that my native language is not English. That's why I don't fully understand what you're writing.
I need to explain.
When I first opened the Air Foyle page, I found a text that completely ignored its origins and the important role it flew for TNT in the UK and Europe. No mention of the passenger charter subsidiary. Instead, there was information about its contacts with Antonov and the ill-fated joint venture with Heavylift, which accounted for about a third of Air Foyle's business.
I thought Air Foyle deserved a longer and more comprehensive text. Isn't that right?
If you can write a better text than mine, go ahead. I'll be happy to read it. Settignano (talk) 12:54, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Settignano: If only you had included in your note to Drmies that you were writing about a new draft you had created, Draft:Air Foyle Ltd., which Drmies had edited recently, rather than the existing article, Air Foyle HeavyLift, I would not have created the note at all. And by the way, the Alice I wrote about over on Drmies' Talk page is the Alice from Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, who followed a white rabbit down a rabbit hole and ended up in a land of wonder. Keep calm and carry on. Geoff | Who, me? 13:11, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
Question from SkyGra on User:SkyGra/sandbox (18:56, 6 June 2026)
How can I change the name of my article in sandbox and submit it for review? --SkyGra (talk) 18:56, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- @SkyGra: I moved it for you to draftspace, with the title "Zinc finger protein 329": Draft:Zinc_finger_protein_329. This title corresponds to other articles about Zinc finger proteins, such as Zinc_finger_protein_226, etc. Follow the directions in this article, Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation, under "Submitting for review", to place your draft in the new articles review queue. (Note that it can be 3 months, or more, before anew draft is reviewed, as there is a very large backlog.) Geoff | Who, me? 19:15, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
Question from Staroflife20 on Draft:Tony DiTullio (17:54, 12 June 2026)
How to i change the page title? --Staroflife20 (talk) 17:54, 12 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Staroflife20: The simplest way, given that your account is brand-new, may be simply to start a new draft with your preferred title. You can copy over your content, work on the new draft until ready to submit for review and then, at some point, request that the old draft be deleted. In any case, a draft article in draftspace is generally deleted as abandoned when it has not been edited for 6 months. Geoff | Who, me? 18:59, 12 June 2026 (UTC)
Question from Animishra12 (13:32, 13 June 2026)
Hello. How do I add a citation in a table?(for example airport destination list)? --Animishra12 (talk) 13:32, 13 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Animishra12: Start here: Help:Referencing for beginners. And for a specific example, see Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport#Top destinations, where the reference for the list, Atlanta, GA: Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International (ATL) Scheduled Service, is included on the title row for each table. Geoff | Who, me? 13:52, 13 June 2026 (UTC)
Question from MiguelDecimal128 (19:29, 15 June 2026)
I made edits to the Decimal128 today, Mon Jun 15 2026. They were rejected and rolled-back by Adakiko.
For years the decimal128 article has been poorly written and factually incorrect. I made small edits in the past.
Pls help me learn the correct level of external citation/reference needed for good contributions. --MiguelDecimal128 (talk) 19:29, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
RE: Edits to HRH Princess Karen Wright-Sori Brengettsy-Chatman page
You asked for a source for the edits I made to the following Wikipedia entry: Princess Karen Wright-Sori Brengettsy-Chatman
This is a rather sensitive issue as it involves a decision by Trinity College to terminate a partnership with the person for whom this Wikipedia entry was created. The partnership agreement between the two parties state clearly that the partnership may be terminated at any time and that, upon termination, references to it be removed in order to avoid any appearance of its continuation.
The subject of this Wikipedia entry was notified of this termination and removed the references to the partnership from her website, as a comparison of these two links will demonstrate. The first is an archived version of the site saved on March 9, 2026
https://web.archive.org/web/20260309172800/https://www.theofficialroyalhouseofsori.com/
the second is the current version of the website with all references to a partnership with the Greenberg Center at Trinity College removed by Ms. Chatman as required by the original agreement.
https://www.theofficialroyalhouseofsori.com/
As I said, the reasons for the termination of this partnership are sensitive and require some discretion. I hope the evidence provided above is sufficient to support the edits I made. ~2026-32004-03 (talk) 19:45, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- @~2026-32004-03: First you should discuss changes to content of a Wikipedia article on its Talk page, Talk:Princess_Karen_Wright-Sori_Brengettsy-Chatman, where this subject has already been brought up on 13 June 2026. See the discussion at Talk:Princess_Karen_Wright-Sori_Brengettsy-Chatman#Conflict_of_Interest_Disclosure_and_Request_for_Review. Second, I reverted your edit to the article because it provided no reliable source, which you have also not provided here. Reliable sources are independently published stories by third-party publishers with a reputation for professional writing and editing as well as fact-checking. Geoff | Who, me? 21:18, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
Ram Sing Thakuri
Hello, you have recently moved the article page Ram Singh Thakuri to Ram Singh Thakur. I request you to move the page back to its original title as the surname is Thakuri. Statue with name Thakuri in Hindi2nd statue with Thakuri name Calmly Trying (talk) 18:15, 16 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Calmly Trying: As I wrote in my edit summary, the sources cited in the article give the name as "Ram Singh Thakur". You need to find sources for the alternate spelling and discuss the change on the article Talk page to try to gain consensus on what the sources indicate. Geoff | Who, me? 20:55, 16 June 2026 (UTC)
- The source cited in the article are old, most of them are pre-2010. I think there is no need to discuss name change on article talk page as plenty of well reputed sources cite Thakuri surname. Here ar sone example - Hindustan Times, Indian Express, Ministry of Information and Broadcasting, Assam Times, ETV Bharat, Statue with surname name Thakuri in Hindi, The Darjeeling Chronicle, 2nd statue with Thakuri surname in Hindi. Calmly Trying (talk) 14:17, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Calmly Trying: Yes, there is a need to discuss changes to the name and the rest of the content of the article on the article Talk page because (a) neither you nor I solely control the content of this (or any other) Wikipedia article, so other volunteers need to have the opportunity to weigh in and (b) the first step in revolving disputes over content is to discuss the differences on the article's Talk page. Take it to the article Talk page, not here. Geoff | Who, me? 14:57, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- The source cited in the article are old, most of them are pre-2010. I think there is no need to discuss name change on article talk page as plenty of well reputed sources cite Thakuri surname. Here ar sone example - Hindustan Times, Indian Express, Ministry of Information and Broadcasting, Assam Times, ETV Bharat, Statue with surname name Thakuri in Hindi, The Darjeeling Chronicle, 2nd statue with Thakuri surname in Hindi. Calmly Trying (talk) 14:17, 17 June 2026 (UTC)