User talk:Settignano

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I would very grateful if you will disregard any further mnessage from UTENTE QUALSIASI from Italy....

Thanks! Settignano (talk) 15:21, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

your best bet would be to make any responses on the ANI thread I linked below. -- Aunva6^{talk - contribs} 18:05, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Please do not add citations with all-caps titles, like you did at Air Canada - per the Manual of Style, titles should be written in title case, not all uppercase. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 10:58, 23 February 2026 (UTC)

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There were 7 editions between 1948 and 1972 (I have them all but 1955).

How to properly list them?

Thanks. Settignano (talk) 13:07, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

Hi, why are you adding bibliographies to random articles? The point of a bibliography is it contains works which were used to build the article... if you're just adding random related books to an article, but they're not actually used as sources, then that's Further Reading, not a bibliography.

Also please note that citation templates like {{cite book}} exist to standardise formatting. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 17:36, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

I am reviewing my sources database.

By consequence I add as many books as I have in my personal library (or I know were published) accordingly to already existing "bibliography" or "further reading" chapters.

Am I wrong? Settignano (talk) 17:43, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

There's nothing whatsoever wrong with adding additional reading to articles - but you're not actually using the sources to verify anything in the article, therefore they're not bibliographies - they're simply Further Reading Danners430 _{tweaks made} 17:44, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

Ok, I will use "further reading" from now on.

What if I get across an already existing "bibliography" and I have that book in my collection? Settignano (talk) 17:48, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

Like I said - bibliographies contain sources which are used in the writing of the article... so if there's an existing bibliography, it was most likely used as a source when the article was written or edited.

Also, please take note of the second point about citation templates. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 17:50, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

Ok, thank you.

Am I doing a good work anyway? Settignano (talk) 17:59, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

Aye - adding additional content to Further Reading sections is definitely useful :-) Danners430 _{tweaks made} 18:01, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

Are you interested in commercial aviation? Settignano (talk) 18:07, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

@Settignano, When you add book titles that are not used as sources as a part of further reading, please make sure the section is placed in the relevant part at the bottom of the article after references (see WP:Manual of Style/Layout). Do not insert them into places or into middle of articles. Also, when you specify texts for additional reading, please make sure it is relevant, and has the full information preferably with the title, author, publisher, year, isbn etc. and link to the source material if available online. If the information is not complete, then there is no point in placing it in the first place. Also, please leave an edit summary as to what and why so that others can understand the same. Thanks! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 10:51, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did at Viasa, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you. Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:26, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

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Hello, Settignano, welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. Your editing pattern indicates that you may be using multiple accounts or coordinating editing with people outside Wikipedia. Our policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow this, and users who misuse multiple accounts may be blocked from editing. If you operate multiple accounts directly or with the help of another person, please disclose these connections before editing further. Thank you. -- Aunva6^{talk - contribs} 17:08, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Sorry to hear this.

I do not use other accounts than this one. I am alone and DO NOT COORDINATE with other people.

I would like to know why you make these statements.... Settignano (talk) 17:45, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

hi, please see WP:ANI#Personal attack by User:Settignano. you're supposed to be notified of the ANI thread, but I think the reporting user did not know... and I forgot myself. -- Aunva6^{talk - contribs} 17:51, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Still I do not understand...

What do you mean? > WP:ANI#Personal attack by User:Settignano.

What does it mean? > you're supposed to be notified of the ANI thread

Really foggy > the reporting user did not know Settignano (talk) 17:56, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

When someone reports another user on ANI, they have to let that user know on their talk page so that they can participate in the discussion. The person who reported you forgot to let you know, so Anuva6 let you know. VidanaliK (talk to me) (contributions) 17:58, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

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Link to section ~ŤheŴubṂachine-840≈ 14:27, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

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Please do not add or change content, as you did at Cimber Sterling, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources to see how to add references to an article. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 13:11, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Thanks but I am still working on this page. I had not yet time to add the proper connections adn sources...

Would you give me a little bit more of time? Settignano (talk) 14:20, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

The process should go the other way around: one writes content based on what the sources say, so the sources were always already there. Drmies (talk) 14:58, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Because Cimber Air has a long and circonvoluted history I will prepare a draft, fill it with all the known and reliable sources and pour it into the WP page.... ok? Settignano (talk) 15:16, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

I guess, yes. Drmies (talk) 15:58, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

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Very good, better than before... Settignano (talk) 12:46, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Hello settgnano, i saw your edit for adjustments infobox image and caption, i suggest you to edit like this example

I hope you understand this, danke. TBB (talk) 21:48, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

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I don't understand what you're talking about.

I was implementing the Aigle Azur page in France defunct airlines when I was interrupted.

So all my additions were lost. In fact I asked "do not interfere"....

Do you know much more about pre-WWII Aigle Azur? Settignano (talk) 12:38, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

the problem is not the factual accuracy, it's copyright -- Aunva6^{talk - contribs} 15:34, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Until I've finished proofreading/implementing the text for the first Aigle Azur, I won't be able to add the sources I used.

"Ask first, shoot later". Settignano (talk) 15:45, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

please see WP:COPYVIO it's not about sourced or unsourced. -- Aunva6^{talk - contribs} 16:02, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

In fact this would be one of the sources: Chillon J.-Dubois J.-P., Wegg J., FRENCH POST-WAR TRANSPORT AIRCRAFT, Air-Britain (Historians) Ltd., 1980.

Check it if you like but I don't think it can be disputed. Settignano (talk) 16:16, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

unfortunately, I cannot see the diff to verify, but it sounds like it was copied, rather than simply paraphrased or used as a source. -- Aunva6^{talk - contribs} 17:38, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

This is just your opinion. If you'd like to check, I can send you scans of the booklet's pages.

Otherwise, you can consult thr booklet in a well-stocked library. Settignano (talk) 12:02, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

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Hey there, and thanks for your contributions. However, I don't think the article TEA Italia as it stands now is suitable for mainspace. It currently only consists of an infobox and does not cite any sources. While I do think the subject is likely notable, I would strongly suggest moving it to draftspace or to your sandbox until there's some prose to it. Gommeh ^{(talk! sign!)} 15:54, 30 April 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for your contributions to TEA Italia. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing as a live article at this time because it has no sources. I have converted it to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit the draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Gommeh ^{(talk! sign!)} 16:34, 30 April 2026 (UTC)

I was still writing....

I will go for the draft tomorrow as I have more infos to add, of course. Settignano (talk) 16:55, 30 April 2026 (UTC)

Good idea. It's generally best practice to start off doing this sort of thing in draftspace (identifiable by Draft: at the beginning of the title, e.g. Draft:TEA Italia, and then publish it to article space only when you're completely done. Let me know if you need any more help! Gommeh ^{(talk! sign!)} 16:59, 30 April 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. I will follow your suggestion.

Indeed here in WP.en there are afew different rules from WP.it (from which I come).

Anyway I looked at my sandbox and found no trace of my TEA Italia writing...

Where do you think is it? I hope it is not lost as I would like to complete the text with additional informations I was unable to add yesterday. Settignano (talk) 05:27, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

Okay, I've finished my corrections and additions.

Please take a look at the page and let me know if it's OK now.

If so, you can transfer it directly to the entry. Settignano (talk) 07:10, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

I'm not really convinced about the first paragraph. The current introduction section reads more like a section on the airline's history, which could be moved into its own section. Instead, MOS:LEAD (the guideline on writing the first paragraph of an article) states that it should introduce the topic of the article to the reader and summarize the rest of the article. For an example of how a lead section for a defunct airline should ideally look, see Pan Am. Overall the rest of the article looks fine by me, but I should preface that by saying I normally don't do aviation or airline articles (my main topic of interest is video games) so there could be something I missed. If you need further help, I would recommend asking the folks at WikiProject Airlines to take a look at it over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airlines. Gommeh ^{(talk! sign!)} 12:06, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

Thanks again.

Every day I learn something more... As I told you before I come from WP.it where the pages rules and writing were a little bit different.

Now I am working on more drafts.

Stay in touch... Settignano (talk) 13:58, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

No problem! I have no idea if you've done this already, but if you haven't, another good place to get resources from would be Wikipedia:WikiProject Airlines/page content. While I can't provide much detailed guidance myself, hopefully that page should point you in the right direction as to how to write the article according to the English Wikipedia standards for defunct airlines. Good luck! Gommeh ^{(talk! sign!)} 14:06, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

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Please do not add Planespotters.net as a source. It’s a fan wiki, the opposite of a reliable source. See WP:PLANESPOTTERS. Also please do not use bare URLs. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 14:54, 2 May 2026 (UTC)

I will do this. I also believe Planespotters is not a reliable source. Settignano (talk) 06:44, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

Why are you still adding this source to articles, such as at Aliblu Airways, and as a bare URL at that too? I’ve removed the section you sourced to Planespotters. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 15:46, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

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Yes, I know that my writing was weak.

The main reason it that all I wrote came from a personal interview (not written), memories a few press cuttings. So nothing which can be considered a reliable and documented source.

Anyway it was just an attempt to check how a small regional airline would be treated.

I do not mind if the draft will be deleted. Settignano (talk) 06:53, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

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Thanks for your contributions to Easy Islands (Italian regional airline). Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing as a live article at this time because it has no sources. I have converted it to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit the draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. StartOkayStop (talk) 17:41, 2 May 2026 (UTC)

Yes, I know that my writing was weak.

The main reason it that all I wrote came from a personal interview (not written), memories a few press cuttings. So nothing which can be considered a reliable and documented source.

Anyway it was just an attempt to check how a small regional airline would be treated.

I do not mind if the draft will be deleted. Settignano (talk) 06:54, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

Unfortunately memory alone can't cut it for verifiability or notability. You might want to consider reading Wikipedia:Writing Wikipedia articles backward, an essay about how to write an article forward vs backward. StartOkayStop (talk) 14:18, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

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Very good, many thanks!

I'm preparing other drafts on Italian airlines that have been overlooked. The real problem are the images, which are almost always missing from Wikimedia...

Follow me... Settignano (talk) 13:48, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

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Mariamnei (talk) 11:07, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

I'd be more than happy to understand the problems with the text.

Since I'm quite familiar with the history of civil aviation in Italy, I'm happy to respond to any observations or comments. Settignano (talk) 14:06, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Hi, there is only one airline called EuReCa so why did you create this as EuReCa Italian domestic airline and not just as EuReCa? Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:57, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

Fatigue has me confused.

Please correct... Settignano (talk) 10:03, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

No worries, I have requested a merge but this will take time. Next time, please just overwrite the redirect. For example, if you want to write about Aeralpi, just overwrite the redirect Aeralpi and please do NOT create Aeralpi - Italian airline or anything like that as it just causes more work for others to undo it. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:09, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

If I have to translate "Spiderone" I would write "big spider"..............

(black) tarantula, very common in the south of Italy...

ah, ah, ah.... Settignano (talk) 10:27, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Alisarda, you may be blocked from editing. Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:35, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

I found this new in the morning while browsing an old magazine.

Is it such a serious thing?

If you think so, feel free to delete it. Settignano (talk) 13:42, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced or poorly sourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at On Air (airline). Danners430 _{tweaks made} 16:02, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

It seems to me that you're being uncooperative.

Please check the page NOW. Settignano (talk) 16:17, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

You are repeatedly adding content without providing a reliable source. Stop. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 16:33, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

In the next 24 hours I will rewrite the article with appropriate references.... ~2026-28343-68 (talk) 07:13, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

And who are you? Danners430 _{tweaks made} 07:16, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

Italian citizen, living in Florence (Italy).

At the age of 16, I began following air transport, particularly airlines around the world.

I edited a monthly aviation magazine for 11 years. I have contributed to numerous publications on transport and tourism. In the early 1990s, I wrote a guide of regional airlines and one of charter airlines. In the mid-1990s, I created the first guide to Italian airports.

I am a member of the Italian Association of Freelance Journalists.

I worked professionally for four years at Rome's Fiumicino Airport and for eight years for the largest aircraft manufacturing company in Italy (Aeritalia, later renamed Alenia). I was part of the team that managed the ATR 42/ATR 72 (regional transport aircraft) program in Toulouse.

I have an archive of thousands of airline images, a huge archive of printed materials and press cuttings, and a library of nearly 100 books on air transport.

Is that enough? Settignano (talk) 14:29, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

Right, so you're the same person as the temporary account above. Please make sure you're logged in when you're editing - otherwise we have no idea who we're talking to. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 14:33, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at List of defunct airlines of Italy. Once again you add a completely unsourced entry - Eagle Airlines - and have repeatedly added unsourced information to this article. 10mmsocket (talk) 16:04, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

If you look at my most recent contributions you will see that everything is very complete with notes and references. Settignano (talk) 14:17, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced or poorly sourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at List of defunct airlines of Italy. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 16:14, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

If you look at my most recent contributions you will see that everything is very complete with notes and references.

Please specify what they are.

Then I'd like to understand what poorly sourced means. Settignano (talk) 16:34, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

It’s right there in the note - your recent edit to the list of defunct airlines of Italy. You’ve been told time and time again to stop adding unsourced entries to that list, and here you are again adding unsourced entries. It stops now. As the message says you can consider it your final warning. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 16:36, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, but it's hard for me to follow you.

You never precisely list my unsourced or poorly sourced additions/corrections citing their name (i.e. Altair).

If I don't know or understand the errors, I can't fix them.

I noticed you removed the Teseo - Aerea Teseo page written specifically by me to improve the list. Wasn't that interesting enough? Settignano (talk) 06:41, 16 May 2026 (UTC)

Here's a handy hint… it's the edits that were reverted on the article linked. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 06:47, 16 May 2026 (UTC)

Yet if I open the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_airlines_of_Italy I don't see Theseus anywhere.... Settignano (talk) 08:11, 16 May 2026 (UTC)

If you go into the edit history you'll see which edits were reverted. It'll also be in your notifications. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 09:04, 16 May 2026 (UTC)

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Why are you adding most of the sources didn't contain URL? just asking. TBB (talk) 01:32, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

The article Aliblu Airways has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Unremarkable airline that operated for just three years. Only reference simply confirms that it exists.

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Hello!

I hope you've reconsidered your opinion of Aliblu airline. Don't forget that it only used one type of aircraft, and a British-made one at that. Settignano (talk) 09:39, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

Hi, as we’ve tried to tell you a few times now, English Wikipedia has a house style for citations - WP:CS1. For a while now the books you’ve been adding have been non-standard - can we please ask that you use the appropriate citation templates where possible, such as Template:Cite book, which render your citation in the CS1 style. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 08:46, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

@Settignano are you reading your talk page? I noticed you're still making the same edits Danners430 _{tweaks made} 09:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

Are you following me step by step? Settignano (talk) 09:42, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

No, I just have a large number of pages on my watchlist (approx. 10k+) and I usually stay on there - I'm not specifically following you Danners430 _{tweaks made} 10:29, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

"FOLLOW ME" is a light-up sign on vehicles used to guide airplanes when they are unfamiliar with the airports... Settignano (talk) 10:43, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

I've yet to see a picture of one added to your user page, so I can't follow you yet ;-) Danners430 _{tweaks made} 10:46, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

Have a look:

Settignano (talk) 11:06, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

MUST... FOLLOW... SETTIGNANO...

If it is't clear, I'm being humerous when I say that by the way :-) Danners430 _{tweaks made} 11:07, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

Yes I know. I used the other way as it is faster and I could copy the reference from my own bibliography.

But if it is compulsory I will go on as EXAMPLE:

• Bluffield, Robert (2009). Imperial Airways – The Birth of the British Airline Industry 1914-1940. Ian Allan. ISBN 978-1-906537-07-4.

Settignano (talk) 09:42, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

It's not compulsory by any means, and apologies if I implied that - it's preferred. It would be good, purely because it keeps the format standardised, but the policy at WP:CITEVAR is clear that formatting is not compulsory at all.

The only thing I would point out is to be a little more careful with inline cites - there was one earlier where you left in the bullet point at the beginning. They obviously belong in Bibliographies, but in citations you don't need a bullet point :-) Not a complaint at all, just making you aware of the sort of mistake that I make regularly! Danners430 _{tweaks made} 10:32, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

Ive noticed that some of his edit where he add image do not match with the operator. TBB (talk) 22:19, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

Give me an example... Settignano (talk) 07:38, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

Eh.. added an aircraft and liveries schemes that does not match with the main airlines.

The caption you put "leased" are probably from user-generated sources. TBB (talk) 08:10, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

A lease is a lease, a rental is a rental... Settignano (talk) 08:23, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

Muffin is a muffin, but uranium is a radioactive... TBB (talk) 12:59, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

Per favore, ascoltate i vostri ordini, altrimenti il vostro account potrebbe essere bloccato. TBB (talk) 03:40, 16 May 2026 (UTC)

Do not put books into the Further reading section if you already use them as a reference, and if you do add a book from further reading as a reference then remove it from that section. Thanks. 10mmsocket (talk) 09:14, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

UNDER-STOOD

(even if in WP Italy there was a different rule) Settignano (talk) 10:18, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

So maybe the best thing to do is create bibliography section for the books that are cited? See the very good example of History of British Airways with short-form citations for author/page number, plus a bibliography section with the full details for those reference, plus a further reading section for other books not referenced. 10mmsocket (talk) 13:04, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

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It looks like you blocked the page due to a small flaw.

As things stand, the Federico II Airways page is no longer visible...

Why didn't you fix it yourself? Settignano (talk) 10:48, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

That is literally a bot... it hasn't done anything, it only notifies you that there's a CS1 error. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 12:11, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

Why do you persist in adding unsourced content to List of defunct airlines of Italy, e.g. Alivicenza, Binair and others? Please stop. 10mmsocket (talk) 13:18, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

Now I found the source... Settignano (talk) 09:11, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

It would appear (and I don’t mean this maliciously) that you’re going about this the wrong way - we need to add sources at the same time as we add content… put simply, if you don’t have a source at the time you’re adding stuff then where are you even getting it from? Danners430 _{tweaks made} 09:56, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

Related books, literature xerox copies, magazines, personal writings, memory, etc. Settignano (talk) 10:59, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

I don't mean to play down your personal knowledge, but we have to bear in mind that we cannot be using our own knowledge as sources on Wikipedia - it's original research. Readers must be able to verify the information presented in articles, and the normal way for this to be achieved is through a citation. If we are unable to provide reliable sources for the content we add, then unfortunately it simply cannot be added to Wikipedia until such time as the source is available to be cited. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 11:16, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

I always refer to documented sources. Occasionally, I may add something of my own because I've worked in civil and commercial aviation for many years. Settignano (talk) 13:48, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

And yet there have been many edits where you're adding content without sources - otherwise we wouldn't be leaving notes like this. As for your own work, the requirements of WP:RS still apply - if it's a personal writing, not published by a third party, then it would potentially fall under self-published source. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 13:53, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, but it's hard for me to erase the memories of 40 years of civil and commercial aviation.... Settignano (talk) 15:39, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

That's not what I'm saying - but regardless of how experienced you are, sources are still required Danners430 _{tweaks made} 16:09, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

Good morning.

After editing the (missing) pages for Aeralpi, Aertirrena, and Avioligure, I believe I've completed the revision of all the defunct Italian airlines.

A few are still missing, but they're really small, moreover I've already noticed there are no images of them on Wikimedia.

I propose this working plan. I'll edit the pages for these small airlines, let you know, and leave it up to you to decide whether to keep them or delete them. Settignano (talk) 06:47, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

No, that is not how Wikipedia works at all. Create a draft article for these airlines and submit them via WP:AFC. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 07:01, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

Ok, I will follow your instruction. Settignano (talk) 07:15, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Aliblu Airways is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be redirected.

The article is being discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aliblu Airways until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Danners430 _{tweaks made} 07:09, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

That article is nowhere near ready for main space so I have moved it trough draft where you can work on it in peace. 10mmsocket (talk) 15:45, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

I have nothing else to add to the page.

Did I work for nothing? Settignano (talk) 16:33, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

I would suggest that you consider drafting articles then submitting them through the AfC process instead of just creating articles from scratch in main space. That article is nowhere near ready. You have three references, two of which are identical, and no page numbers. Something that size should have way more inline citations for the large amounts of text that are unreferenced (with page numbers if you are referencing books). Plus it has an unreferenced fleet table. 10mmsocket (talk) 16:37, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

It's a funny situation. Despite having had professional contacts with Fortune Aviation management (my company's managers occasionally rented their executive jets), I have very little documentation other than the one mentioned.

So what should I do?

Anyway, I don't understand your words "unreferenced fleet table." What else should be referenced? Settignano (talk) 06:35, 19 May 2026 (UTC)

If you don't have references to prove that the airline is notable, then it should not be an article. A wide range of references support claims of notability. As for the unreferenced fleet table, it means that the fleet table has no references. 10mmsocket (talk) 06:38, 19 May 2026 (UTC)

As for the personal contact, that gives you an interest (although unlikely a conflict of interest WP:COI) but no advantage as an author because personal knowledge would be original research WP:OR. 10mmsocket (talk) 06:39, 19 May 2026 (UTC)

See also Draft:Italair and Draft:Avioligure 10mmsocket (talk) 16:53, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

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I'm sorry for causing any harm.

Let me explain about Italian airline Airone.

I started with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WPAVIATION_creator

When the page opened, there was an infobox and a page dedicated to a tourism and nature magazine (which I know). I deleted all the informations and replaced them with the airline's information.

Now I realize I made a mistake and that I had to create a disambiguated page. Settignano (talk) 07:23, 21 May 2026 (UTC)

If you do create a new page, please start it as a draft article 10mmsocket (talk) 07:40, 21 May 2026 (UTC)

Ok.

Where is the draft of the draft page (active I mean)? Settignano (talk) 07:45, 21 May 2026 (UTC)

You create it yourself, e.g. Draft:Airone (airline) 10mmsocket (talk) 07:51, 21 May 2026 (UTC)

or use this link. TBB (talk) 08:12, 21 May 2026 (UTC)

Why do you persist in messing up tables by randomly changing some image sizes? Things are consistent for a reason. If you think they should be larger, then fine, but change all the images not just a small number. 10mmsocket (talk) 17:06, 23 May 2026 (UTC)

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Mariamnei ✦ ^{reach out 🕊️} 11:46, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

I'm surprised by this decision.

I cited at least two authoritative sources: G. Endres (works of a well-known aviation writer) and M. Wickstead (from the respected Air-Britain group).

Aren't they sufficient? Settignano (talk) 14:07, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

No decision has been made - @Mariamnei is notifying you that a discussion has been opened, not that a decision has been made. You're more than welcome, indeed encouraged, to participate in the discussion. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 14:09, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

As @Danners430 says, no decision has been made and you are welcome to contribute to the discussion. I just want to explain that in my opinion, the sources currently in the article do not establish notability. The sources presented appear to be passing mentions of the airline, whereas the requirement for WP:NCORP require significant coverage. As an aside, two sources is rarely enough to establish notability, especially for a company or organisation. I hope this is helpful, and feel free to follow up with any other questions. Have a great day! Mariamnei ✦ ^{reach out 🕊️} 09:20, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

Please add page numbers. If you are reading the books and adding them as references you should know exactly what page the airline is mentioned on. 10mmsocket (talk) 16:20, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

Always on my path, huh? Settignano (talk) 16:23, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) If you edit pages that other editors are interested in or have on their watchlists, then you're likely to encounter said editors. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 16:43, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

Hello Settignano, please remember, when you translate from the Italian Wikipedia, attribution is required. If you are unsure how to provide attribution, please follow the steps found here. This brings up another larger issue: the way you edit, the way you ignore other editors’ warnings, and the way you conduct yourself are not compatible. You cannot go around adding unsourced content (like on Alisarda), hijacking pages (like on Airone), violating copyright (like on Aigle Azur), and, most importantly, repeatedly ignoring warnings from other editors about these issues. These are the exact issues that led you to being blocked on the Italian Wikipedia, and on Commons. You're obviously editing in good faith, but you cannot continue editing the way you are. Please, slow down and heed the warnings, or you may find yourself blocked here too. Thank you. The4lines |||| (talk) 18:19, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

What happened to me in Italy with WP shouldn't concern WP en.

There's the Channel and a good chunk of continental Europe between the UK and Italy...

Due to Brexit, passports are required on both sides. Settignano (talk) 13:10, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

Just remember, some non-english wikipedia article are filled with user generated and blog, so you removed or find a similar one TBB (talk) 16:32, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

Intrusion beyond the border? Settignano (talk) 13:52, 27 May 2026 (UTC)