User talk:Johnmars3
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Orania first sentence
The first sentence of Orania was decided in an RFC, here. It cannot be changed substantially from that (particularly removing the words "white separatist", which were central to the question the RFC asked) without another RFC. You participated extensively in the RFC, and are therefore aware of that "white separatist" is the consensus version of the lead's first sentence; why have you removed it repeatedly? --Aquillion (talk) 01:00, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- a) Orania is an Afrikaner only town. Not a whites only town. If it was a whites only town they would be open to whites from England or America, they are not. If anything they should be called Afrikaner separatist.
- b) Afrikaners are not white. DNA analysis clearly shows that they have European, African and Asian origins.
- c) They do not describe themselves as white, but as Afrikaners or Boers.
- d) "White separatist" is a loaded word, could even considered a slur with very negative connotations. Wikipedia does not condone dehumanizing language to describe vulnerable minorities. Johnmars3 (talk) 06:44, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- As I recall, you raised all those arguments during the RFC and they were rejected; WP:RSes don't agree with your analysis. Our responsibility as an encyclopedia is just to summarize what reliable sources say. But either way, ultimately, language in articles like those are decided by consensus, and the 2022 WP:RFC made the consensus plain. If you disagree you can start another RFC on talk (the old one was two years ago, after all) but I don't think it's likely that it's going to change when the sources are so clear-cut. --Aquillion (talk) 17:29, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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Orania
Hi Johnmars3! I noticed that you recently made an edit to the article on Orania and marked it as "minor". "Minor edit" has a specific definition on Wikipedia: it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Your edit deleted sources, so it clearly was not a minor edit and has been reverted. -- Toddy1 (talk) 11:54, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- The population figure has been updated in the Orania start box, NOT by me.
- The person who did it provided this ref source: https://myorania.co.za/kennisgewing/inwonertal-van-orania-sensus-2024-word-bekend-gemaak/
- I only updated the demographics chart to correspond with the population number provided at the start.
- This is a minor edit. Johnmars3 (talk) 03:04, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
Hello, I'm Toddy1. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Orania#Demographics, but you didn't provide a reliable source. On Wikipedia, it's important that article content be verifiable. If you'd like to resubmit your change with a citation, your edit is archived in the page history. Please note that the 2023 figures are supported by a citation in th text of the article; there was no reason to delete these from the table when you added 2024 figures. If you have any questions, you can leave a message on Talk:Orania. Thank you. -- Toddy1 (talk) 08:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
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