User talk:MonicasHouse

First things first, welcome to wikipedia as you look like a pretty recent contributor. Thank you for your sourcing of UDHR across pages, not having THIS of all things sourced seemed absurd (and I don't understand why there's "No reason to add UDHR" to the Lithuanian page like your probably do. The arcanes of inhabitants of this website are inpenetrable.)

I wanted to reach out to you because I would like to know where you got your íslensk tunga as [ˈistlɛnsk tuˈŋaʔ] from. More specifically the closing glottal stop, the lack of aspiration on the T and of a [k ~ g] in tunga. Those three point look absurd to me but it wouldn't be the first time an exotic transcription would have learned me some valuable piece of information and make me change my mind. (I will in any cases revert your edit as it is not conform to the guidelines of Help:IPA/Icelandic).

I look forward to you answer.

PS: (I hope you agree a length mark should also be present in parenthesis after the I)

PS 2: I saw you also transcribed norsk språk with a (post)glotalised closing K (you used ⟨ˀ⟩), what was the intended meaning ? And on the Swedish page, (no comment on the final tonal syllable... you must have been tired) you used a closing diphthong, was it a Danish copy-paste or a genuine statement ? Ʃouer (talk) 22:18, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

Update the pronunciation of språk and add an audio of norsk språk and how it is pronounced in Norwegian (Bokmål or Nynorsk). MonicasHouse (talk) 23:00, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

Yeah I think it might be. MonicasHouse (talk) 23:00, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

I got íslensk tunga myself on Google Translate but I didn't copy it and paste, I just typed it in myself. MonicasHouse (talk) 23:01, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

I want Google Translate to support Norwegian (Nynorsk) as well because Bokmål is supported. MonicasHouse (talk) 23:03, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

There is no thing as "spoken Nynorsk" (and "spoken Bokmål" is pretty much frouned upon as it's posh Oslo accent with an overly literary style -it's not called "book[s]-language" for nothing-), they're both WRITTEN norms. The Norwegians mostly still cling on to their local dialects (even if newspeech and written standards are starting to influence them a lot) and they can be pretty varied and the motto of Nynorsk was "Speak dialect, write Nynorsk" (as Bokmål got heavily associated to the emerging somewhat standard Urban East Norwegian -which is the variety that should be represented in Wikipedia headers and when the article is not explicitely concerned with Norwegian dialectal variation (cf. Help:IPA/Norwegian)- and is literally Danish but with some QOL tweaks. Though Nynorsk is by design also "artificial"; aim: finding common denominators for all of Norwegian dialects to maximise understanding and representativity.)

Also it'd be pretty useless for google translate to support Nynorsk (most text directed to foreigner are available in Bokmål, otherwise you're already on to learn basic Norwegian), they'd better improve their Bokmål translator (and minority languages)

For what you transcribed ⟨ˀ⟩, it's probably the result of the combined action of the palatalisation of velars (varies with dialect :d but is mostly a common but optional process at the end of words.) and of final affrication -Swedish example here^ⓘ- (a way to enhance sentence boundary, present in Icelandic where Rögnvaldsson calls it "a form of aspiration" -pretty weird but that wouldn't be his first... thing- and in articulated speech in English). I'm on my own for this (as in I never read it) but this probably extends to vowel, what you heard as a glottal stop, them optionnaly being "devoiced" (little tip, glottal stops leave pretty noticeable effects on pitch and on the preceiding's vowel duration -just say take English words like stop [stɔʔp], daughter [ˈd̥oˑʔtˢɐ], bleaching [ˈb̥lɪi̯ʔt͡ʃɪŋ], ofc I transcribed the way I'd say them). This "devoicing" is something present in other European languages: Dutch (toe^ⓘ), Swedish (et område^ⓘ), Norwegian (baby^ⓘ), Danish (encyklopædi, see Den Danske ordbog: here's the file), Icelandic obviously (fluga^ⓘ) -way more noticeable in the Wikitongues video by Ljóni- and French where it developped into a fully fleged epenthetic segment (merci^ⓘ).

Transcribing swedish /oː/ as a diphthong is not a bad idea really (it's actually quite insightful, plus otherwise swedish "doesn't have diphthongs" -/ɛʝ/ kinda is but not here-). But this is a opening/centering, not a closing diphthong (see Persson (2024), linked in Swedish phonology.) Here's an example mål^ⓘ, which I'd transcribe [moɞ̯l]

My little swedish tables:

My little swedish tables:

Short subsystem:                                              Long subsystem:

i /ɪ/^ⓘ    y /ʏ/^ⓘ | ɵ /ɵ/^ⓘ       | ʊ /ʊ/^ⓘ : Close  ɪ̝ʝ /iː/^{ⓘ        ⓘ}     ʏ̝ʝʷ /yː/^ⓘ  | ʏ̟βʲ /ʉː/^ⓘ    | ʊβ /uː/^ⓘ : Closing

ɛ /ɛ/^ⓘ    œ̝̈ /œ/^ⓘ | (ɞ̝r /œr/)^ⓘ   | o /ɔ/^ⓘ : Mid    iɛ̝ /eː/^{ⓘ        ⓘ}     (œ̝̈ɐ /øː/)^ⓘ | (œ̈ɞ̠ /øːr/)^ⓘ  | ʊɔ̝̈ /oː/^ⓘ : Opening

(ær /ɛr/)^{ⓘ   ⓘ}   | ä /a/^ⓘ       |           : Open   æː (ɛæ) /ɛː/^ⓘ (a̟ːr)^ⓘ  œ̈ː /øː/^ⓘ   | (ɞːr /øːr/)^ⓘ | ɒ̝ː /ɑː/^ⓘ : Flat

Sorry I let myself write freely, hope this was at least somewhat interesting. (And I'd advise you NOT to use Google translate to base off your transcription, prosody is always off and you're never sure of what it outputs -though I admit it's useful when you don't have any first hand recording at hand-) Ʃouer (talk) 15:24, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing.

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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Lithuanian language, you may be blocked from editing. – sbaio 15:22, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm gonna stop! MonicasHouse (talk) 22:41, 15 January 2026 (UTC)