User talk:PeoplesBarrister

Your edit to Victor Yannacone has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for information on how to contribute your work appropriately. For legal reasons, Wikipedia strictly cannot host copyrighted text or images from print media or digital platforms without an appropriate and verifiable license. Contributions infringing on copyright will be removed. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. Last warning. You've been warned multiple times for this. You keep introducing violations to the article. Now we have to check the offline sources you've added. If you continue to add copyrighted material to the article, you WILL be blocked. The4lines |||| ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 02:44, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

I do not have any idea what copyrighted material youo are talking about on my wikipedia page. I have been adding secondary sources as directed by oithder editors. Any quotations are less than a sentence. Your general instructions do not provide any specific help.

I have been trying to make corrections one sentence at a time waiting for an editor to step in after each correction or inset of new matter.

Please point me to an offending statement and let me try to correct it.

Thank you. PeoplesBarrister (talk) 03:04, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Gladly. All of this: Yannacone attended Syracuse University, New York University and Kalamazoo College without taking any required prequisites for the courses he took or getting a degree. Yannacone only earned one A — in Theory of Coaching Football. At the end of his junior year at Kalamazoo College, Yannacone grew disenchanted with medicine and enrolled at Brooklyn Law School. But law school also failed to gratify him and he barely graduated. Nonetheless, he passed the bar exam and went on to do graduate work at New York Law School, which happened to be around the corner from the downtown campus of Fordham University where he concurrently took a number of philosophy courses. was directly lifted from this , word for word. The fact you don't understand what you're doing is worrying to me. You must understand that you cannot just copy and paste from websites onto Wikipedia articles. The4lines |||| ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 23:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so very much for the clear and lucid explanation. I really appreciate it. Gil Rogin's Sports Illustrated artricle is the earliest national secondary source. Based on the corrections and guidelines from the two prior editors will this paragraph be appropriate

Yannacone attended Syracuse University, New York University and Kalamazoo College but never earned an undergraduate degree. His academic record was undistinguished with only one A in Theory of Coaching Football. At the end of his junior year at Kalamazoo College, Yannacone enrolled at Brooklyn Law School, from which he barely graduated. Nonetheless, he passed the New York State bar examination in February 1959, and went on to do graduate work at New York Law School and Fordham University. citing to the same article? PeoplesBarrister (talk) 22:45, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

We're heading in the right direction but I feel like it's still too close to the source. It follows the exact same structure while also starting some of the sentences the same (At the end of his junior year or Nonetheless). You must write in your own words completely. What I recommend is, read the source a couple of times and then take a quick break. Then come back and without looking at the source, write your paragraph. At the end you can check the source and fix any mistakes you made. The4lines |||| ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 23:46, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Than k you again for your kind and thoughtful advice. I have been using the RFK Jr article as a model. Following your directions, isa the following proper?

Yannacone was born on March 10, 1936 at French Hospital in Manhattan. His mother, Fortunata L. Yannacone, nee Speciale was the daughter of Antonio Speciale and Marietta Speciale (nee Russo) who had emigrated to the United States from Barcellona Pozzo di Gotto near Messina, Sicily in 1905. His father, Victor J. Yannacone was the son of Nicholas Yannaccone and Carmella Yannaccone, nee Roca, who had immigrated to the United States from Avellino in Italy. Yannacone was baptized a Catholic at St. Marks Church in Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn.

He grew up in Brooklyn, Queens and, in 1945, the Yannacone family moved to Patchogue, on Long Island, NY where he graduated from St. Francis de Sales elementary school, attended Seton Hall High School and graduated from Port Jefferson High School (now Earl L. Vandermeulen High School) as Salutatorian of the Class of 1952. He attended Syracuse University, New York University, Kalamazoo College, and Fordham University, but never earned an undergraduate college degree. He earned a JD (Juris Doctor) degree from Brooklyn Law School in 1959 and did some graduate work at New York Law School. He passed the New York State Bar in March 1959 and was admitted to practice in New York on October 15, 1959. [citation to SI article]

There are primary sources for the Ellis Island immigration of his grandparents and his date of admission as an attorney. Should they be cited? The RFK Jr article contains a number of internal links to general Wikipedia articles on Harvard and the Kennedy family members. I thought links to Wikipedia articles were prohibited?

Thanks again for all your kind assistance. PeoplesBarrister (talk) 19:25, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Firstly, could you sent me a link to the SI article so I can check it against what you wrote? Secondly, while you do have to be careful with primary sources, I'm sure citing them in this case will be fine. Lastly, I'm not sure if I understand your last question. Do you mean internal links within articles like this or do you mean something else. The4lines |||| ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 23:44, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

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Ignore my last question. It is not really relevant at this time. The primary source problem aooears here:

==Early legal career==

Yannacone was admitted to the New York State Bar in October, 1959^[2] and immediately began his career as a trial lawyer. In addition to trying workers compensation claims for injured workers and the victims of occupational diseases, he began to try personal-injury liability cases in the New York State Supreme Court and represent indigent criminal defendants referred by the NAACP and Court “pro bono'”.

In January, 1971, Yannacone and his father Victor J Yannacone established Yannacone & Yannacone, Professional Corporation. ^[3] Victor J. Yannacone died in 1980 and Victor John Yannacone, jr. continues the firm as a solo practitioner, advocate, trial lawyer, and litigator. PeoplesBarrister (talk) 00:50, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

The SI paragraph looks good. I can't access the primary sources, but in this case, I see no problem by adding them. The4lines |||| ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 14:45, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you again for all your help. I really appreciate it. I am sorry to keep bothering you but I do want to get it right once and for all. The following is an example of a paragraph that has only primary sources. Can I post it?

== Patents and inventions ==

Yannacone has contributed to inventions and been awarded patents in dynamic infrared medical imaging, communications, data mining and analytics. He has also served as trial counsel in patent litigation.

The Infrared Imaging Breast Cancer Detection System for early detection of neoplastic processes in the human breast— breast cancer— and beneath the skin (malignant melanoma) combines high-resolution functional infrared imaging with analytical software and facilitates meta-analysis of the image database to identify “signatures” associated with physiological abnormalities in the breast and beneath the skin.

“System and method for identifying and classifying dynamic thermodynamic processes in mammals and discriminating between and among such processes: The Method of Integrals” 7,408,156, with images…ref>https://ppubs.uspto.gov/dirsearch-public/print/downloadBasicPdf/7408156?requestToken=eyJzdWIiOiI3NDFkYjE0Yi0wZDE0LTRhYTEtYjgwOC00YmE4YTE3ZjkzNjQiLCJ2ZXIiOiI2YmQ4ZDJkZC1jM2U1LTRmMmUtOWMxNy03YjczZTY0ODQ4YWYiLCJleHAiOjB9</ref>

“Method and apparatus for high resolution dynamic digital infrared imaging: The Differential Method“, ^[4]

Yannacone developed Data Mining and Analytics

Systems for dynamic data mining and distribution of the data collected from many sources in real time without regard for the form, type, and class of the data. It was originally intended to protect ships at sea and utilizes geofences to maintain a dynamic zone of concern surrounding the vessel or vehicle of interest. It permits a high order of accuracy in geolocation by dead reckoning when satellite connections are not available. This patent is fundamental to many commercial data mining systems.

“Collection and Distribution of Maritime Data” ^[5]

"System and Method for Dynamic Data Mining", 8,332,087^[6]

In 1979, during the Agent Orange litigation, Victor Yannacone and his wife Carol A. Yannacone designed and helped build three relational databases — CHAOS (Case histories of Agent Orange Survivors), HOSPIT (Helpless Overmedicated Sick People In Trouble) and DOOM (Doctors Orders and Other Mistakes) — and a minicomputer based object oriented database management system (OODBMS). The relational database management system permitted rapid searching, sorting, and collecting data on individual veterans and associated their service in Southeast Asia at particular places, dates, and times with their individual physiological injuries and disease.^[7] PeoplesBarrister (talk) 21:54, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Again I can't access the source but you're really stretching my knowledge on this. I'm going to ping @DanCherek: who might have more knowledge on this than me. The4lines |||| ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 01:01, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Let me thank you again for your help and concern. I will await Mr. Cherek's instructions. PeoplesBarrister (talk) 01:40, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for the late reply as I have been a little busy this weekend. If I'm understanding the above conversation correctly, you're wondering about the use of primary sources in the proposed section about patents and inventions that Yannacone contributed to. Typically our decisions about what the contents of an article should be are based on the extent of coverage on reliable sources, and because patent applications are not peer-reviewed, they're probably not a great source for claims about what the infrared breast imaging system is capable of, or how accurate the data mining methods are, etc. The final link you posted of the newspaper article about the Agent Orange databases is better because it seems like an independently-published article about the work that was written by someone else. The patent citations themselves being used for a statement like Yannacone has contributed to inventions and been awarded patents in dynamic infrared medical imaging, communications, data mining and analytics. is maybe borderline – someone might revert it on the basis of primary sourcing, I probably would just leave it alone personally, but for the descriptions of the systems themselves I would try to see if an independent source has discussed them.

Sorry about the long-winded reply... hope that helps at least a little bit. DanCherek (talk) 02:12, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

I appreciate your help and advice before I attempt to post the descriptive paragraphs on the Patents and inventions material, I will add secondary sources. I thought that the USPTO Examiners are the highest level of "peer" review with respect to patent applications. At least they think of themselves as such.

Thanks again for your help. PeoplesBarrister (talk) 04:20, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Don't worry about asking us for permission to post anything new, feel free to just add it to the article. I'll check in periodically. The4lines |||| ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 04:35, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks again for all your help and thoughtful comments. When can the approved material be uploaded, and the copyright home lifted? In the future, could I check with you before posting anything new? PeoplesBarrister (talk) 20:14, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

I'll remove it in a little bit. While we wait for DanCherek to answer your question about the primary sources, could you provide other links to the sources as they do not work. You're always welcome to ask any questions you may have. The4lines |||| ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 22:53, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

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Hi PeoplesBarrister! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Victor Yannacone several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree at Talk:Victor Yannacone, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. Thank you. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 03:09, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. Synorem (talk) 03:37, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

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