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Hi, Stacey! Glad you asked.

I would actually be against such a move, because the current titles of the kozhuun articles are what they are per our romanization guidelines, which, in turn, are based on BGN/PCGN romanization of Russian; the latter being the most common romanization system used in the English language. So, as far as the academic standards go, the existing titles are correct.

As for the sources you mentioned, note how they all come from Tyva and are written by Russian/Tuvan speakers. I can very well imagine how they would not be aware of the BGN/PCGN conventions, nor are they expected to comply with it if they did, so, when writing in English, they would be using the spelling which sounds least alien to them—which in this case happens to be transliterated Tuvan. Problem with that approach is, what sounds least alien to them would not necessarily be the best choice for our target audience—the Anglophones seeking encyclopedic information. Hence the guidelines.

That said, I think it would still be a good idea to set up the transliterated Tuvan names as redirects to the existing titles—the more variants we can collect, the better.

I would also consider moving those articles from "Fooysky Kozhuun" to "Fooysky District". Kozhuun is not an English word (at least not according to the criteria laid out in WP:RUS), and it pretty unambiguously translates as "district" (not to mention the fact that the Tuvan law on the administrative-territorial structure equates the two corresponding Russian terms), so as per WP:UE, it makes sense to change that part. Before that's done, however, the kozhuun article itself needs to be merged into raion (which is an English loanword).

Anyway, I hope I addressed your query to your satisfaction. I'll be more than happy to hear more on this from you should you have further questions or ideas. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 17, 2010; 13:26 (UTC)

WP:RUS is actually very specific on the choice of the source language--see item 7 of the "Place names" section. The explanation given there is a bit lame and incomplete, but it is true nevertheless—geographic names are always romanized from Russian, because that's an accepted practice (and not just for Tyva). Our WP:UE→WP:RUS guideline chain complies with that practice, which is the way it should be. Furthermore, a handful of online sources (such as Tuva Online or a local news agency) are not indicative of "established English usage", especially considering the fact that neither of those sources is independent of the subject and that they likely operate using their own ideas of what "proper usage" should be. That may be fine for their purposes, but it certainly is not fine for ours—our guidelines are supposed to be rooted in specific, documented, and preferably widely adopted practices. BGN/PCGN romanization is one such practice. What Tuva Online et al. use is not.

We shouldn't be looking at each kozhuun name individually and cross-check whether it matches the majority of spelling used by some outside websites; that would simply defeat the purpose of standardization and lead to all kinds of different problems later on (what if Tuva Online switches to different spellings one month from now? What if different sources use widely different spellings equally? Which sources are acceptable to borrow a spelling from and which are not? The list goes on and on...). Does this help clarify my point?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 18, 2010; 13:59 (UTC)

I was going to do that myself next week, but thanks for volunteering :) Would you be interested in doing the same for ulus (term) (and moving the articles about the Sakha uluses accordingly? Also, a quick pointer (in case you didn't know, it'll save you time and effort)—you don't need to change the existing redirects (and there are quite a few of those), because they'll be taken care of by the bot. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 18, 2010; 15:04 (UTC)

One can't rename a category. You need to list it on WP:CfD. If you are not comfortable doing it, please let me know, I'll list it myself when I return next week. Thanks much for doing the rest of the cleanup!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 18, 2010; 20:31 (UTC)

Thanks. If you want me to do it instead, just holler :)

Regarding the kozhuun article, I am a bit hesitant to leave it there. It's not good to have an article under a title which is not even a valid English word. Perhaps, if the Tuvan administrative aspect is merged into raion and the historical aspect is merged elsewhere (a subsection in history of Tuva perhaps), then it would make sense to have a disambig there, but an "article"... I don't know. What do you think?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 21, 2010; 19:20 (UTC)

Well, yeah, but existing poor practices are not a good enough reason to proliferate them even further. If there's a way to get rid of at least some of those, we should be pursuing it. With dzongkhags, for example, the existing article on the term could work great as an intro to the districts of Bhutan list, especially if one wanted to make the latter featured some day. This exact approach might not work for other similar articles, but there are always other ways to handle this if mind is put to the task.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 21, 2010; 19:52 (UTC)

Let me sit on it for a couple more days and think. Unless some great idea shines on me, I'll probably merge it into the administrative divisions of Tuva article ("districts of Tuva" would just be its subset, and the "administrative divisions" deals mostly with the districts anyway), while retaining a short blurb in the raion article as well. In the meanwhile, if you have any other ideas, please let me know. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 21, 2010; 20:28 (UTC)

After mulling this over for the past week or so, I decided to add a source to the kozhuun line in the raion article and merge the contents of the former kozhuun article into administrative divisions of Tuva (to which "kozhuun" now redirects). I hope this is an acceptable solution. Please let me know if this works for you (and feel free to take your time if you need to ruminate about this for a while). If it does, I'll do something similar to the ulus (term) article. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 30, 2010; 14:23 (UTC)

P.S. I also meant to ask you if you think creating the articles about the nine historical Tuvan kozhuuns is a feasible task?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 30, 2010; 14:23 (UTC)

I don't mean to hurry you, but are you still thinking about how to go best about the uluses or have you simply lost interest in this subject? Either is fine, of course, but I would appreciate it if you could let me know. Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 20, 2010; 13:37 (UTC)

Honestly, I forgot about responding. I've been focused a lot on work (because I work for myself in my free time). I saw you merged kozhuun and I agree that the same should be done elsewhere. Sorry for not responding earlier. --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 23:42, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Not a problem; thanks for a response! I'll merge the ulus article when I get a chance. Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 22, 2010; 13:10 (UTC)

Re your "rant", I've written an essay about giving notable newbies a hard time, at WP:Hazing. If you have ideas to develop the essay further, please chip in. Cheers! --JN466 10:18, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Excellent. Thank you. This is not the first such incident I've seen on Wikipedia regarding a notable person either. --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 16:27, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

I've come across a few others as well. :( I've added another essay addressed to notable persons in that position, Wikipedia:Notable person survival kit. --JN466 11:26, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, let me dig around, but I'm afraid I have no clue where something like this can be found. As for Toka and Kuular, it is likely that the PD photos of them exist (under the terms of commons:Template:PD-old-70), but, again, no idea if any would be available online.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 25, 2010; 13:44 (UTC)

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Hello Sborsody,

This is regarding a post of "Janos Boros" the Ex-Vice Mayor of Kolozsvar. You might not remember me, I am Kiran, an Indian by Szarmazas. My Magyar is a bit rusty, so I have to write in English. In 2009 there was nominated under Afd by some Romanian users. It was finally decided as "keep". It seems some RO Users have decided to nominate it again. I got the decision reviewed and the Admin was gracious enough to open it for discussion again. If you have the time, please do participate.

Warm regards, Hangakiran (talk) 20:47, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Neither spelling is incorrect; it's just different romanization systems. We mostly follow the BGN/PCGN romanization of Russian, but multiple other systems exist, too. All systems enjoy some use, and even the same organization may not always follow just one consistently.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 13, 2011; 13:34 (UTC)

Template:Tuva task force has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Bulwersator (talk) 10:36, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Tuvan topics naturally fall under the remit of WikiProject Mongols, as Tuvans are Mongols. WPCA's connection is not much more concrete. If WikiProject Central Asia has an interest in the talk pages other than just by virtue of being Tuva's (former) parent, then those banners can be re-added, but your own reasoning should not permit you to remove the Mongols banner. Shrigley (talk) 05:14, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, as long as you accept that WikiProject Mongols can have an interest in Tuvans, then I hope we can reach some agreement acceptable to everyone about the status of Tuva. Shrigley (talk) 05:50, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

I agree that such move (e.g. from Tuva Task Force to WikiProject Mongols) should not be done without proper discussion. Shrigley's move was kind of unilateral as well as being controversial, which I don't really support as well. Sorry if I haven't noticed the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Central_Asia/Tuva_task_force earlier (I never came to that page before), but I fully agree with your remarks there, including the point to keep the discussion visible. Last but not the least, I'd like to say Happy New Year to you too. Thanks a lot. --Chinyin (talk) 00:52, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

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I am looking for the the motto(s) the the Tuvan People's Republic. It was "Workers of the world und supressed peoples of the east, unite!" until 1939 and later only "Workers of the world, unite!", in the Tuvan languag, of course You find it on the emblems here or at File:Coat_of_arms_of_Tuvinian_People's_Republic_(1930).jpg. Can you type the text as well as in latin as in cyrillic script (or use Google to find it)?--Antemister (talk) 20:24, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

The text is already in the old Tuvan latin-based script. There's no real standard for modern Tuvan Cyrillic transliteration to latin script so I use one that I think is somewhat readable for English speakers. --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 20:54, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for that fast answer. The first, bold text is the original text, isn't it? Can also write it in capital letters? Is "suppressed peasants" the literal translation of the text?--Antemister (talk) 21:06, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

You're right. Should be oppressed. The Russian translation is угнетённый. Arat is a bit idiomatic too. An arat is a nomad/peasant, but in this context it really refers to "people" in a non-national sense. Normal Tuvan words for "people" include chon, kizhi, and ulus. --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 16:53, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Can you also read the tuvan language in mongolian script? What is the text here and at File:Flag of Tuvinian Peoples Revolutionary Party (1921).jpg and File:Tprpflag.PNG--Antemister (talk) 08:54, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

As far as I know, there is no evidence that Tuvan was ever written with the Mongolian script. Tuvan was not a written language prior to the invention of the old Tuvan Latin alphabet. Mongolian was used as the administrative language. According to Manchen-Helfen in "Journey to Tuva", only 2% of the population spoke it: Buddhist monks and wealthy elites; the same people who very likely made that flag. I don't read the old Mongolian script. I'd be surprised to learn if the flag were indeed written in Tuvan with Mongolian script. --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 14:41, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Ok, sorry forget that fact that any text from Tuva before 1930 should be written in the mongolian language. I asked those who speak that language, will tell you what they read.--Antemister (talk) 15:02, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

BTW, is there another book in wetsern language about that country than OMHs excellent but 80 years old report?--Antemister (talk) 15:03, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Can you add the tuvinian name (latin and cyrillic) of the Tuvan People's Revolutionary Party?--Antemister (talk) 19:39, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't have any good answers for you at this time. I'm sure I have the Tuvan name of the TPRP somewhere, yet I can't recall seeing it. For books, I can only think of "Tuva or Bust" and "Where Rivers and Mountains Sing". --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 03:33, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that, you might want to join in the discussion on the talk page. Related issues are at ANI - pov nationalistic edit warring, sock puppetry, distorting sources, using bad sources, you name it. Dougweller (talk) 09:48, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I have no information on the subject. Borsoka (talk) 15:29, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

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Once again, another question to the motto of the Tuvan's People's Republic: A german source claims that the text on File:Coat of arms of Tuvan People's Republic (1943-1944).jpg is is "All the world's workers and farmers and oppressed peoples of the east, unite!" Is that true, or is it the same text which appeared on the older emblems? See # Motto of the Tuvan People's Republic, where you already told me something about that topic.--Antemister (talk) 18:50, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Well, there are only two subject nouns in the Tuvan sentence: "proletar" and "arat" and the word "east" does not appear. It sounds like the German source is being idiomatic. Proletariats are both industrial and farm laborers who don't own the means of production. Usually it is rendered just as "workers" in English. An "arat" is a Mongolian word (arad) that means a nomadic herder, peasant, or commoner. Since an "arat" is not the kind of peasant most Europeans picture, but one tied to eastern lifestyles, in this sense it could mean "peoples of the east". Why make the distinction though?

Bügü(all) delegejniŋ(world's) proletarlary(proletariats) bolgash(and) darlatkan(oppressed) arattary(peoples) kattyzhyŋar(unite)!

--Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 20:20, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

OK, your explanation makes sense. If several western and russian sources use this translation, it's better to ask someone who speak the Tuvan language. By teh way, is it possible to add the Tuvan name (both in latin and cyrillic letters) of the Tuvan People's Revolutionary Party?--Antemister (talk) 21:01, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Again a question to Tuva's emblems. A talented graphist recently drew File:TUVAN PEOPLES REPUBLIC coa (1943-1944).svg. Is the text on that drawing really the same as here (right picture)? And for the left one, is "PYGY TELEGEJNIŅ PROLETARLARЬ POLGAŞ TARLATKAN ARATTARЬ KATTЬƵЬŅAR!" correct?--Antemister (talk) 20:23, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Antemister. As you suspect, File:TUVAN_PEOPLES_REPUBLIC_coa_(1943-1944).svg doesn't say the same thing as in the heraldicum link. In it says "PYGY TELEGEJNIŅ PROLETARLARЬ POLGAŞ CӨӨN CYKTYŅ TARLATKAN ARATTARЬ KATTЬƵЬŅAR!"/"БҮГҮ ТЕЛЕГЕЙНИҢ ПРОЛЕТАРЛАРЫ БОЛГАШ ЧӨӨН ЧҮКТҮҢ ДАРЛАТКАН АРАТТАРЫ КАТТЫЖЫҢАР!". Now I see where the German translation you asked about earlier comes from. "CӨӨN CYKTYŅ/ЧӨӨН ЧҮКТҮҢ" means "eastern". So this line says essentially, "All the world's workers and eastern oppressed peoples unite!" (oppressed peoples of the east). --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 19:32, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

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A largely complete list of articles to be updated is at Category:Language articles citing Ethnologue 17. The priority articles are in Category:Language articles with old Ethnologue 17 speaker data. These are the 10% that have population figures at least 25 years old.

Probably 90% of the time, Ethnologue has not changed their figures between the 17th and 18th editions, so all we need to do is change "e17" to "e18" in the reference (ref) field of the language info box. That will change the citation for the artcle to the current edition. Please put the data in the proper fields, or the info box will flag it as needing editorial review. The other relevant fields are "speakers" (the number of native speakers in all countries), "date" (the date of the reference or census that Ethnologue uses, not the date of Ethnologue!), and sometimes "speakers2". Our convention has been to enter e.g. "1990 census" when a census is used, as other data can be much older than the publication date. Sometimes a citation elsewhere in the article depends on the e17 entry, in which case you will need to change "name=e17" to "name=e18" in the reference tag (assuming the 18th edition still supports the cited claim).

Remember, we want the *total* number of native speakers, which is often not the first figure given by Ethnologue. Sometimes the data is too incompatible to add together (e.g. a figure from the 1950s for one country, and a figure from 2006 for another), in which case it should be presented that way. That's one use for the "speakers2" field. If you're not sure, just ask, or skip that article.

Data should not be displayed with more than two, or at most three, significant figures. Sometimes it should be rounded off to just one significant figure, e.g. when some of the component data used by Ethnologue has been approximated with one figure (200,000, 3 million, etc.) and the other data has greater precision. For example, a figure of 200,000 for one country and 4,230 for another is really just 200,000 in total, as the 4,230 is within the margin of rounding off in the 200,000. If you want to retain the spurious precision of the number in Ethnologue, you might want to use the {{sigfig}} template. (First parameter in this template is for the data, second is for the number of figures to round it off to.)

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If Ethnologue does not provide a date for the bulk of the population, just enter "no date" in the date field. But if the population figure is undated, and hasn't changed between the 17th & 18th editions of Ethnologue, please leave the ref field set to "e17", and maybe add a comment to keep it so that other editors don't change it. In cases like this, the edition of Ethnologue that the data first appeared in may be our only indication of how old it is. We still cite the 14th edition in a couple dozen articles, so our readers can see that the data is getting old.

The articles in the categories linked above are over 90% of the job. There are probably also articles that do not currently cite Ethnologue, but which we might want to update with the 18th edition. I'll need to generate another category to capture those, probably after most of the Ethnologue 17 citations are taken care of.

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  Are you curious how your peers approach writing a Wikipedia article? This exercise, pioneered by Wikipedians Nikola Kalchev and Vassia Atanassova in 2015 and conducted in many places around the world, will help us all - from first-time wiki users to veteran Wikipedians - share ideas, while building an article together. If you have ideas (relating to Bay Area history, ideally) about a new article we could build (stubs and short existing articles are fine), please submit them ahead of time to coordinator Pete Forsyth. (User talk page or email is fine.)

  Announcements and impromptu topics are welcome, too!

Please note: You must register here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict.

For further details, see: Wikipedia:Bay Area WikiSalon, June 2016

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See you soon! Pete F, Ben, Stephen and Checkingfax | (Subscribe or Unsubscribe to this talk page notice here)

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:07, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Please join us in the Mission at Noisebridge (one time change of venue)!

We hope you can join us today, Wednesday, from 6 p.m. on, at our July Bay Area WikiSalon. This month only, we are going to be at Noisebridge, a hackerspace/makerspace 1.5 blocks from the 16th & Mission BART station (see the link for directions). Some of us will be working on the Wikipedia article on basic income. All info here. Some good news - we do not have to be as strict about advance RSVP at Noisebridge, so bring spontaneous guests! (Registering ahead of time is still helpful, as always, as it will help us plan ahead.)

Come and hang out, have some light snacks. Wi-Fi is available, so please bring your editing device if you plan to edit.

Also, Pete just published a writeup of the Wikidojo exercise we did last month. Your comments welcome, if he missed anything! http://wikistrategies.net/ghost-town-royals-wikidojo

The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather at Bay Area WikiSalon to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas. Mark you calendars now.

We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:05, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Hi folks,

We would like to invite you to this month's Bay Area WikiSalon. The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We make sure to allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages and light snacks. We will also have a brief presentation for your education and possible enjoyment:

• Former EFF intern Marta Belcher will discuss crowdsourcing her Stanford Law School graduation speech using a wiki. The "WikiSpeech" was the subject of prominent national media attention in 2015, and more than half of her classmates contributed to writing and editing the commencement address via a wiki.

Please note: You should register here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict on the I.D. part. This also helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in! Feel free to stop by even if only to say a quick hello, but you might have to give us a last minute call if you forget to RSVP. Also, don't be shy about hitting us up if you have thoughts on speakers or wiki-related activities.

For further details, see: Wikipedia:Bay Area WikiSalon, August 2016

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:05, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:50, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Hi folks,

We would like to invite you to this month's Bay Area WikiSalon. The last Wednesday evening of every month, Wikipedia and Wikimedia enthusiasts gather to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We will have no formal agenda to allow people to freely share ideas and perhaps learn about Wikipedia through hands-on editing. Co-organizer Ben Creasy will be looking at election-related articles to enhance the information available in the upcoming November elections.

Co-organizer Stephen LaPorte has suggested doing an upload-a-thon for Wiki Loves Monuments. Niki, the California coordinator for WLM will be in attendance. WLM is an annual event and the official dealine is Friday the 30th for submissions to count towards awards.

Or, you can grab a couch, a booth, or a stool and do your own thing.

Please note: You should register here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict on the I.D. part. This also helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in! Feel free to stop by even if only to say a quick hello, but you might have to give us a last minute call if you forget to RSVP. Also, don't be shy about hitting us up if you have thoughts on future speakers or wiki-related activities.

For further details, please see: Wikipedia:Bay Area WikiSalon, September 2016. Mark your calendars now for the 3rd Wednesday in October, the 26th, when we will have a brief presentation.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Hi folks,

Please copy and share this on other talk pages. We would like to invite you to this month's Bay Area WikiSalon. The last Wednesday evening of every month, Wikipedia and Wikimedia enthusiasts gather at the Wikimedia Foundation lounge to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We will have no meaty agenda this month, but we will allow a brief period for:

• Open mic for anybody who attended WikiConference North America 2016 in San Diego last week and wants to share their takeaway
• Question & answer
• Open mic for announcements
• Maybe a focus on some topical election article editing with Ben?

Or, you can grab a couch, a booth, a stool or counter and do your own thing.

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Please note: You should register here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict on the I.D. part. This also helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in! Feel free to stop by even if only to say a quick hello, but you might have to give us a last minute call if you forget to RSVP. Also, don't be shy about hitting us up if you have thoughts on future speakers or wiki-related activities.

For further details, please see: Wikipedia:Bay Area WikiSalon, October 2016.

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PS: Mark your calendars ahead now for the 3rd Wednesday in November, the 30th (the week after Thanksgiving), at 6 p.m. when our WikiSalon will host a super awesome top secret mystery guest mingling in our midst. We will announce specifics at the upcoming WikiSalon.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:51, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi. The Wikipedia:WikiProject Europe/The 10,000 Challenge has recently started, based on the UK/Ireland Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge. The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more countries than they might otherwise work on. There's also the possibility of establishing smaller country or regional challenges for places like Germany, Italy, the Benelux countries, Iberian Peninsula, Romania, Slovenia etc, much like Wikipedia:The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of countries regularly contributing. If you would like to see masses of articles being improved for Europe and your specialist country like Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon, sign up today and once the challenge starts a contest can be organized. This is a way we can target every country of Europe, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant and also sign under any country sub challenge on the page that you might contribute to! Thank you. --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:09, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

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Details and RSVP here.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:54, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki and open-source enthusiasts gather at Bay Area WikiSalon to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

Before and after the brief presentation we allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages and light snacks.

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In addition, this month we will have:

• a brief presentation from User:Cullen328 (Jim Heaphy) about the Wikipedia Teahouse
• spontaneous lightning talks from the floor
• community announcements from the floor

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For details and to RSVP see: Wikipedia:Bay Area WikiSalon, December 2016

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See you soon! Ben Creasy and Checkingfax | (Subscribe/Unsubscribe to this talk page notice here)

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P.S. Any help spreading the word through social media or other avenues is most welcome! We plan to announce this on various sites and invite various groups; if you would like to join in, check our meta planning page, and please note any announcements you are sending out: meta:Monthly WikiSalon in San Francisco#Announcements and promotion

Please feel free to add to, refine, reorganize or edit the above linked page: it is a wiki!

We need more helpers and organizers, so if you see a need, please jump in, or talk to us about it! You can add your username to the meta page where appropriate, or create a new role!

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:44, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Hi, everybody.

We are excited to remind you of the ninth in the Bay Area WikiSalon series that is coming up this Wednesday evening at 6 p.m.

• Details (RSVP suggested) here (RSVP helps us know how much food and drink to bring in)

What is a WikiSalon? A monthly safe and inclusive meatspace event conducted in organized chaos and we all clean up the mess afterwards. Livestream links for the presentation are available during presentation months, and will be forthcoming for those of you that cannot attend. December is a presentation month.

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Hope to see you there! Wayne (and Ben) - co-organizers
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 05:10, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:43, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Wikipedia Day 16 SF is a fun Birthday bash and edit-a-thon on Sunday, January 15, 2017, hosted by Bay Area WikiSalon at the Wikimedia Foundation's Chip Deubner Lounge in the South of Market Street business district.

For details and to RSVP, please see: Wikipedia:Meetup/SF/Wikipedia Day 2017

The San Francisco gathering is one of a number of Wikipedia Day celebrations worldwide.

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PS: We need volunteers to help make this a fun and worthwhile event. Please add your name to the Project page, and what you can offer. It is a wiki, so please make direct edits to the page.

Bay Area WikiSalon usually meets the last Wednesday evening of every month as an inclusive and safe place to collaborate, mingle, munch and learn about new projects and ideas.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:52, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

You're invited to The Black Woman is God Edit-a-Thon at SOMArts in San Francisco on Saturday July 22, 1-4 pm. It'll be at 934 Brannan Street (between 8th & 9th). Everyone is welcome to join this editing event, held in conjunction with The Black Woman is God exhibition to raise the online visibility of Black women artists and challenge the gaps in art history that erase or minimize Black women’s contributions as artists, activists and social change-makers. (Message requested by Dreamyshade and delivered on 14:23, 9 July 2017 (UTC). You can subscribe/unsubscribe to San Francisco event talk page notices here.)

You're invited to an Art+Feminism Edit-a-Thon at SFMOMA in San Francisco on Thursday March 8, 5-9 pm. It'll be at 151 Third Street, 2nd floor, free to the public. Everyone is welcome to participate in an evening of communal updating of Wikipedia entries on subjects related to gender, art, and feminism. (This message is from User:Dreamyshade. You can subscribe/unsubscribe to San Francisco event talk page notices here.)
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:58, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi!

Wikimania is happening and hopefully you're enjoying the sessions. While it's fairly last minute, you're warmly invited to participate in the local Wikimania-themed meetup in the Wikimedia Foundation office this Friday (tomorrow!). You will have to register in advance, but we would love to see more people from the WikiSalon community participate! For more information and registration, please check out meta:Wikimania 2022/San Francisco Meetup.

The event will involve hacking, teaching, learning, and celebrating and we'll have snacks. We will have the opportunity to watch live sessions at Wikimania together in the afternoon. The rest of the day we'll have opportunity to participate in the hackathon, and we may have some on-demand workshops/learning sessions.

In case we run out of space, it's first-come-first-serve so let us know soon! Hope to see you there.

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On behalf of the Bay Area Wiki Salon team and Bittakea, Effeietsanders