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Happy editing! Peaceray (talk) 07:34, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Forsyth Barr (December 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Cabrils was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Well done on creating the draft, and it may potentially meet the relevant requirements (including WP:GNG, WP:NCORP) but presently it is not clear that it does.

As you may know, Wikipedia's basic requirement for entry is that the subject is notable. Essentially subjects are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. To properly create such a draft page, please see the articles ‘Your First Article’, ‘Referencing for Beginners’ and ‘Easier Referencing for Beginners’. In short, "notability" requires reliable sources about the subject, rather than by the subject. Additionally, the draft tends to read too much like a promotional advertorial (see WP:PROMO), which Wikipedia is not. The draft does not appear to show that the subject has any notability beyond the average coverage in trade publications for similar corporations (see WP:ROTM). Also, if you have any connection to the subject, including being the subject, you must declare that on your Talk page (to see instructions on how to do this please click the link). In instances of a conflict of interest, the review of the page needs to be handled with care, mindful of the higher bar set by pages produced in circumstances of such a conflict. Such pages typically may read too much like a promotional CV or advertorial (see WP:PROMO), which Wikipedia is not; and/or contain prose that is not of a standard appropriate for an encyclopaedia (also see WP:PEACOCK and WP:NPV). Please familiarise yourself with these pages before amending the draft. If you feel you can meet these requirements, then please make the necessary amendments before resubmitting the page. Note that since the draft was previously declined, you made practically no amendments before resubmitting again. To avoid further disappointment, please do NOT resubmit the draft until substantive issues raised here have been addressed. It would help our volunteer reviewers by identifying, on the draft's talk page, the WP:THREE best sources that establish notability of the subject. It would also be helpful if you could please identify with specificity, exactly which criteria you believe the page meets (eg "I think the page now meets WP:NCORP criteria #3, because XXXXX").

Once you have implemented these suggestions, you may also wish to leave a note for me on my talk page, including the name of the draft page, and I would be happy to reassess.

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Cabrils (talk) 06:27, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, ThirtySixScribe! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Cabrils (talk) 06:27, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Forsyth Barr (December 27)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted because it included copyrighted content, which is not permitted on Wikipedia.

This submission appears to be taken from https://www.responsibleinvestment.org/membership/directory/member/forsyth-barr. Wikipedia cannot accept material copied from elsewhere, unless it explicitly and verifiably has been released to the world under a suitably free and compatible copyright license or into the public domain and is written in an acceptable tone—this includes material that you own the copyright to. You should attribute the content of a draft to outside sources, using citations, but copying and pasting or closely paraphrasing sources is not acceptable. The entire draft should be written using your own words and structure.

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NeoGaze (talk) 20:59, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia and Copyright

Hello ThirtySixScribe! Your additions to Draft:Forsyth Barr have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably free and compatible copyright license—to request such a release, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, it's important to understand and adhere to guidelines about using information from sources to prevent copyright and plagiarism issues. Here are the key points:

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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices. Persistent failure to comply may result in being blocked from editing. If you have any questions or need further clarification, please ask them here on this page, or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. NeoGaze (talk) 21:06, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

COI/connection disclosure

WP:THREE significant sources

• RNZ (national broadcaster): Forsyth Barr snaps up funds manager Hobson Wealth — independent coverage of scale/strategy (Dec 2023).
• Otago Daily Times: multi-paragraph business coverage of Forsyth Barr’s 2009–2010 expansion and later openings (2010 Queenstown; 2021 Masterton).
• INFINZ (official 2024–2025 winners pages): independent, industry-wide recognition on nationally significant transactions.
Claimed criteria: WP:NCORP via significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources. Promotional phrasing removed; each section now cites independent material. ThirtySixScribe (talk) 23:11, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Wait, @ThirtySixScribe, what COI are you disclosing here? I was just coming to have a yarn about approving your article, but if there’s COI issues, it would be good to know those too…

Anyway, what I was coming to say is that there’s a broken citation link (current citation 18), which you might want to clean up, and it might help if you added a little section about the stadium sponsorship, since that makes them look more important, but otherwise I think notability is proven. Before I go ahead and approve it though, I just want to make sure that there’s nothing else you’ve left in there which is taken directly from online or offline sources, so that I know all the sopyright issue is fully cleared up. Because they blanked the history for it, I can’t actually see to check, but I’ll take your word for it if you tell me you’re certain. Absurdum4242 (talk) 13:15, 24 February 2026 (UTC)

Also, I’ll just say that it would be nice to have more kiwi content on here, so if you wanted to stick around and get stuck in, maybe try some minor edits on other already existing pages until you get a good idea of how things work on here, and then you can move on to making / substantially rewriting some more articles. Hang in there 👍 Absurdum4242 (talk) 13:18, 24 February 2026 (UTC)

thank you so much Absurdum4242 - it's quite the learning curve! But kinda enjoyable :-) ThirtySixScribe (talk) 22:24, 24 February 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Absurdum4242 — thanks for the message.

Re COI: I do have a conflict of interest — I’m a paid employee of Forsyth Barr and I’ve been working on this draft in connection with my role. I’ve disclosed this per WP:PAID/WP:COI.

I’ve now:

fixed the broken citation link (was ref #18), and
added a short, neutrally worded section on the Forsyth Barr Stadium naming-rights sponsorship/opening with independent citations (ODT).

Thanks again for offering to reassess Draft:Forsyth Barr when you have a moment.

ThirtySixScribe (talk) 22:24, 24 February 2026 (UTC)

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