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Hello, Thrissel, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Original research

One of the things that we, as Wikipedia editors, have agreed to eschew is original research. "No original research" is one of three core content policies, along with neutral point of view and verifiability. Jointly, these policies determine the type and quality of material that is acceptable in articles. They should not be interpreted in isolation from one another, and editors should therefore familiarize themselves with all three. What you did in the edit to the American and British English differences article is called synthesis, where two sources are combined to make a point. In this instance you took the two definitions of sedan and saloon and combined them to show the two usages. Instead, what you should have done was find a source that makes the direct comparison, or foregone the addition. Wikipedia articles are not intended to be exhaustive, they are intended to show the state of knowledge about a topic. Exhaustive articles are for academic publications. This is an encyclopedia. I hope this helps you understand the policy better. Please don't view this as criticism, it was a very nice edit, but instead view it as an introduction to some of Wikipedia's policies. --Bejnar (talk) 02:08, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for the welcome and for explaining. I haven't realised it could be seen as OR, but point taken now. (In fact I initially wanted to use as a reference Oxford Learner's English Dictionary, whose 6th edition says expressly "saloon (also saloon car) (both BrE) (AmE sedan)", but thought the OED would be a more, say, "respectable" source.) Neither did I want to be exhaustive, yet I thought this word(s) to be frequent enough in everyday speech to be listed. Anyway, User:Old Moonraker has taken care of it now. Nevertheless, thanks again for pointing the edit's flaw out to me, and don't hesitate to tell me when I botch something next time - I was always best at learning the hard way ;-) ! --Thrissel (talk) 09:19, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Auld Alliance

Nice addition to October 23, just to let you know I have changed your Scotland and England to Scotland and England (like this [[Kingdom of Scotland|Scotland]] and [[Kingdom of England|England]] by using pipes so as to show the names now in use while linking to the countries as they were at the time.) --Drappel (talk) 12:31, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that makes sense. As I actually "stole" the whole sentence at 1295, I made the same change there as well. --Thrissel (talk) 14:26, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Use of the definite article in Gaelic

RE: (Undid revision 324475533 by Eog2016 (talk) - definite article not necessary) The Definite Article is used before most names of languages in Gaelic. Page 106 in the book 'A Gaelic Grammar' by GEORGE CALDER. b.d., d. litt. Published by Alex. MacLaren & Sons,,GLASGOW in 1923, states the following; "7. (The Article is used) :with names of languages : Am faigh a' Ghàidhlig bàs — Will Gaelic die ? Anns a' Bheurla chruaidh—in hard English" I hope that you can appreciate from the above two examples that one should use the article before the word Gàidhlig. By using this one also should notices that the word changes to Ghàidhlig! You are incorrect in stating that the "definite article not necessary" in this particular case and therefore I would appreciate it if you would reinstate my changes. Eog2016 (talk) 01:09, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi, that's not exactly correct. Although the definite article is used before the names of languages quite often, in particular in the genitive and dative cases, it's not required, and the form without the article (and lenition) is the more usual option in sentences like Tha Gàidhlig aige or ag ionnsachadh Gàidhlig". That's why Gaelic dictionaries mention the article in the headword when its use is necessary (eg some placenames) but not with the names of languages. You might also be interested in this recent debate at Fòram na Gàidhlig. Cheers, --Thrissel (talk) 09:26, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

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