Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology

Greetings to all! I copy discussion from talk page of --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here}and also from article Heraldic family. I invite You to discuss this matter to reach consensus.

You are all invited to join a discussion at Talk:LGBTQ symbols#Polyamory and leather flags, as to whether Leather pride flag and two polyamory pride flags should be included among LGBTQ symbols (and at Pride flag#Other flags). Your input would be deeply appreciated. Thanks. Hope to see you there. Historyday01 (talk) 18:25, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

Since it's relisting of deletion discussion of Canadian coat of arms which is mostly kept. What can we use about the non-free version about official renditions of the arms/emblem, for Qatar example, there are four additional fair-use rationales, see File:Emblem of Qatar (2022–present).svg. Absolutiva 03:56, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Firstly, that discussion is not yet closed and FfD is WP:NOTAVOTE, so consensus on the use of the Canadian coat of arms on the article Coat of arms of Canada can not be gotten from just counting up !votes at this stage (although with that files history I have no doubt it will close keep).

Secondly, and more importantly, as has been repeatedly explained to you, the consensus about one file on one article has no implication about consensus elsewhere. Most articles seem happy to treat user made CoA as acceptable WP:OI, but it is ultimately a case by case question (that involves the history and culture of the places under discussion).

The Emblem of Qatar is not a coat of arms, and so there is no blazon to make an free, user created (and heraldicly correct) emblazonment from. It's logo not heraldry. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 09:27, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Request for Comment at Talk:LGBTQ symbols#Request for Comment for Flag Inclusions. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 00:30, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

We have a little discussion on Talk:Lesser Seal of Lithuania and look for an extra opinion on a more natural naming in English, especially from the editors familiar with the historical heraldry. Thanks. -- Mindaur (talk) 15:07, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

Information on Caribbean heraldry is missing on wikipedia. I've taken a pass at a draft of an article to fill this gap. Would love help fleshing it out! Draft:Caribbean heraldry FeudalCritic (talk) 23:29, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:List of non-rectangular flags#Requested move 1 March 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 17:55, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

Greetings WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology community

I am seeking help to improve the page Armorial of British universities. There are two universities without a 'free to use' ie available on Wiki Commons, ecutcheon. These are the University of Sunderland and Teesside University. Indeed ecutcheons are also lacking for the University of the Built Environment and University of the Arts London. Many of the ecutcheons in use in the article have been created within Wiki Commons by 'artists', based on the heraldic descriptions (blazons) or using a template. I hope there may be a volunteer or volunteers with the skills and enthusiasm for this little project, able to assist ~~hjamesberglen~~ Hjamesberglen (talk) 09:50, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Genealogical Office#Requested move 9 March 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPath^talk 21:21, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

I'm notifying this project about fraudulent heraldry on the page for Smith's Parish. The design is painted in watercolor with the family name "Smith" underneath the arms in a stylized typeface; this is not an actual coat of arms, it is a "family crest" design sold to gullible Americans by companies committing heraldic fraud. If you search "Smith coat of arms" or "Smith family crest" you will see the exact image. Marisauna (talk) 11:24, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Template:Coats of arms of Polish families has been listed for discussion, which may result in the template being merged or deleted by consensus. You are invited to comment on the proposed action at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karnemir (talk • contribs) 04:46, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

I subscribe to The Dragon, the community newsletter for St George's Chapel, Windsor. The latest edition had this announcement:

Four new crests, commissioned for the most recent Garter Knights, have been installed under their banners in the Quire. From left to right: The cat on the spire (Lord Lloyd Webber); The griffin with the branch from a peach tree (Lord Peach); the coronet of HRH The Duchess of Gloucester; the eagle (Lord Kakkar).

There are photographs of each underneath, but no blazon written out. I'm not sure whether we count this as a published source given that it's emailed to subscribers rather than hosted on the website. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 21:16, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

I called myself Tamfang here until, after twenty years, I got tired of that name. (I meant it as Elvish for ‘copper beard’, unaware of the characters of the same name in writings of Clark Ashton Smith and Lawrence Watt-Evans.)

Recently I fed the name Tamfang to Google Gemini, as one does; and learned, among other things, of "Tamfang's law" that charges ought to (loosely) fill the available space. Naturally I was startled to have become the eponym of a commonsensical design principle of long standing.

Have any of you ever heard of "Tamfang's law"?? —Antonissimo (talk) 04:41, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

And then it occurred to me to ask Gemini for the origin of the term; and it replied that Tamfang's law is "A mistake is proportional to the number of people who see it," elsewhere attributed to Eric Raymond. Which, in a way, answers my question above. 06:31, 29 March 2026 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antonissimo (talk • contribs)

Nothing at google search, google books, archive.org, google scholar, etc. Nor does the attribution to Eric S. Raymond make any sense, as he didn't have anything to do with vex or heraldry (as far as I can remember). It does make sense if you're an LLM predicting the next most likely tokens for a term that doesn't exist, as he did invent a lot of other terms. I think you can chalk that up to Hallucination. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 10:18, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

I did not mean to suggest that ESR's law has anything to do with heraldry. —Antonissimo (talk) 19:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Goryeo § RfC: Flag placement. Toadspike [Talk] 11:39, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

A discussion has been opened as to the style of image used at Crown (heraldry)#Commonwealth usage. As this is a question of aesthetic preference and is in danger of becoming an edit war, it would be helpful to have the views of other editors. Dgp4004 (talk) 08:16, 10 April 2026 (UTC)