Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Orphanage

Hi everyone. @CapnZapp recently shared a video that graphed connections between articles on Wikipedia, which I thought might be of interest to this project (I Made a Graph of Wikipedia... This Is What I Found by adumb). It goes into how roughly 8% of articles don't have links from the wider encyclopedia. But of these 8%, orphaned articles only make up a fraction, while the majority consist of what the creator called "orphaned groups", which are groups of articles that link to each other, but aren't linked to from the wider encyclopedia. The video points out cases such as Iranian villages, which all link to the article on Iran and to each other, but which aren't linked on any other Wikipedia articles. Are orphaned groups something that this Project has looked at in the past? If not, would it be something that the Project would consider taking on under its scope of activities? I think this is something that potentially gets missed, as spotting an orphaned article may be easier than spotting groups of articles that only link to each other. --Grnrchst (talk) 11:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

There’s Wikipedia:Walled garden, which isn’t highlighted as part of WikiProject Orphanage but is linked on the main project page. Perfect4th (talk) 12:04, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

I know I just recently joined the project, but the thing I took most away from the video (which is what piqued my interest) is that it appears that there are way more orphaned articles on Wikipedia than the orphan tag is letting on. He mentions finding 355,159 orphaned articles, which is much higher than the current count even if some of those have already been taken care of.

My point is, he managed to code something that was able to detect orphan articles seemingly with or without the tag. If something similar to that were to be implemented, could that be a solution to finding all orphans and orphaned groups? Highresheadphones (talk) 07:28, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Addendum: After typing this out, I read through the page on AWB and orphans, and I see that this problem is already being tackled. I think the sheer difference in numbers of what he considered to be an orphan page versus what AWB considers an orphan threw me off. Highresheadphones (talk) 23:04, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

WikiProject members will likely be interested in this big-picture discussion about de-orphaning. – Teratix ₵ 06:19, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Greetings, At Finding an orphaned article I added the following.

• Category:Orphaned articles from June 2024—This category contains the largest number of articles marked as orphans. There are
  1,990
  articles tagged. Some editors enjoy making progress on a challenge.

Cheers, JoeNMLC (talk) 12:59, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

I swear I thought there was a tracker that existed, but I'm not finding it on the WikiProject page. I've been working to remove the tags from quite a few articles, and I was curious where the overall project was at. I understand we have the counter categories, but I think it'd be helpful to have the information by month or whatever period listed somewhere, just so that we can see the overall progress made and possible trends. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:Orphaned articles has something like that, although it didn't update for October for some reason. --Here2rewrite (talk) 18:04, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes, that's exactly what I was looking for and remembered! Can't help but think we should be linking that from the WikiProject page for curious folks. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:12, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

It's a ways down, but Wikipedia:WikiProject Orphanage#Progress links to the category to link graphs. Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 20:31, 11 November 2024 (UTC)