Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Shopping Centers

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By gross area? retail floor area? certainly not by number of shops as a small shopping center can have more shops than a a bigger one. thanks. --Xaiver0510 (talk) 01:11, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Malls fall into 'Classes'. See the ICSC's official guideline for naming conventions located here. The largest are called Super Regionals Exit2DOS ^{• Ctrl • Alt • Del} 02:48, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, but that doesn't quite answer the question in this case. Let me try rephrasing: When ranking shopping centers by size, do we discount the square footage of the common "mall" area and count only the leasable area, or do we count all enclosed space? SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:37, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

From what I have seen, total Enclosed Square Footage. As the management can place isle-way kiosks, temporary seasonal sales carts & even 'sidewalk sales' into that area, it becomes a sales/advertising space and income generator. It is rented out the same as a retail space would be, just usually on a shorter term. Yes, this would also includes Mall Offices, Work spaces & Storage units. Hope that helps. Exit2DOS ^{• Ctrl • Alt • Del} 03:16, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I am browsing the wiki pages of shopping centers in Singapore and inside it poses several contradictory statements maybe due to being outdated information or such. Hence I like to clean it up a bit. I will try to find the information on Enclosed Square Footage, ranked them accordingly and update the wiki pages. Thanks again --Xaiver0510 (talk) 11:04, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

What is the procedure for dealing with various infobox field values in Template:Infobox shopping mall for malls which have closed, or even been demolished? Do we set number_of_stores and number_of_anchors to "0", blank the fields so they don't display at all, or keep some useful number such as the maximum number the mall has when in use, or the final number when it closed? Similarly, do we set floor_area to "0" when a mall is demolished?

I ran into this issue on Phillipsburg Mall, which has recently closed, and may or may not have been demolished. Meters (talk) 22:06, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

I'd just put the number of tenants at peak. Aspifi (talk) 10:41, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Are any project members interested in updating Palette Town in Tokyo, per recent closure? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:53, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

I'm a Burlington, MA historian and webmaster who wrote a comprehensive article about the Burlington Mall (linked below). As I read the Wikipedia entry about the same mall, the history section doesn't match any of my research, or the research of other Burlington historians. Also, I'm a paid member of Newspaperarchive.com, which lets me search any keyword from any time period. I can't find a single article that mentions Bellwether Properties or a man named Vesili Matto, both key players in the Wikipedia article. It's very unusual to get ZERO matches for any name, let alone important names in a major commercial development. I notice the Wikipedia article has no citations for the history section. Can someone back up the facts presented? If not, I propose rewriting the history section myself.

Here's my article: https://burlingtonretro.com/burlington-turns-50/ Here's the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burlington_Mall_(Massachusetts)

Robert Fahey Burlington, MA 781-718-9872 cell BurlingtonRetro (talk) 17:52, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Malls have changed dramatically since the consensus has been reached to not include any inline stores, it makes sense to me that a clear indicator of a malls vibrancy would be to include more than just anchor retailers but up to several additional name brand tenants in a separate sentence to paint a full picture. For example, a mall can still have anchors but be a "dead mall" without inline stores which is pretty significant to note. Thoughts? Stupidcupid6 (talk) 17:13, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Such laundry lists of tenants never appear to add anything to the article, nor can I see how such a list would demonstrate the "vibrancy" of a mall, even with sourcing that goes beyond a mall directory. Nor has there ever been an explanation of which of the dozens to hundreds of stores should be listed. Alansohn (talk) 18:50, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

I agree a laundry list sounds like too many, I mean just a few or enough to paint a more accurate picture. I think we might be able to all agree that a mall is certainly more vibrant with retailers that are not found in dead or dying malls like Apple for example. If I read about a mall having a store like Apple I would understand better what kind of mall that is. Stupidcupid6 (talk) 19:11, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

How would you select from what could be hundreds of tenants which ones show that a mall is "vibrant with retailers" and not a dead mall? Alansohn (talk) 11:45, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

To paint a more accurate picture would be to just name some tenants, there are obvious tenants that are more hard to find and would be noteworthy but really any inline tenants give you an idea of what the mall is like in general. Stupidcupid6 (talk) 20:32, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

There is simply no way to provide a list for every mall that would include obvious noteworthy tenants. I don't see how "any [list of] inline tenants give you an idea of what the mall is like in general", especially if these lists are provided without any source or with only the mall directory as a source. Anchors are given that name because they anchor the rest of the mall; there will be sources about the anchors and their role in the the mall. A random list of tenants adds nothing ad that's why consensus has been clear to exclude them, even with sources. Alansohn (talk) 22:09, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

There are stores which are much more noteworthy than others, these would obviously describe a mall further than anchors which are nearly the same at every mall. If there are any articles written about their presence being in the mall this would also help establish their notoriety. Stupidcupid6 (talk) 23:08, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Additions like this seem completely arbitrary. How is it being decided which of the ~200 stores at that mall are "prominent"? Given that Altar'd State doesn't even have a standalone Wikipedia article, why is it a "prominent" store that warrants being specifically being mentioned over the rest of these? Per WP:DUE these should not be mentioned unless there are reliable sources that directly and unambiguously demonstrate that any such store is a significant aspect of the mall, otherwise it's just another store in a mall of countless other stores. - Aoidh (talk) 23:03, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Raffles City Singapore#Requested move 23 April 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 14:50, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) § RFC: Should we remove mentions of public transport access from infoboxes. Zackmann08's proposal seeks to remove the parking= and publictransit= parameters from several infoboxes. Thryduulf (talk) 22:29, 22 May 2026 (UTC)

Hello,

I'm new to writing my own articles and I would be interested in writing an article about Carrolltown Center, formerly in Eldersburg/Sykesville, Maryland, but I'm concerned whether it meets standards for being culturally notable enough to be listed on Wikipedia. I think it's very interesting, but that doesn't necessarily mean Wikipedia as a whole agrees. What existing standards do we have as far as deciding whether a smaller defunct mall is signficant enough to be listed?

Thank you! Shamra12 (talk) 22:09, 16 July 2026 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Trolley Square shooting#Requested move 30 July 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPath^talk 10:09, 7 August 2026 (UTC)