Talk:Bill Clinton

I think it would be a good idea to have the info box show a portrait for the second term since we have second term portraits for Obama and Trump in their articles. I've written to the Clinton library to see which one of the pictures on Commons is the second term portrait and will replace once I get more details if everyone agrees. ~2025-40234-37 (talk) 22:18, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Why does it say Clinton was joint most popular president leaving Office when everyone knows he was the most popular president of all times when leaving Office ? Clinton had 66. % approval rating, Reagan had 63 % approval rating. ~2026-20807-1 (talk) 19:53, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, Why is this page protected from editing in light of the Epstein files? Either unlock the page for editing, or do the editing yourself. Then you can go back to claiming that Wikipedia is not biased ~2025-35113-26 (talk) 19:35, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

This article already talks about his relationship with Epstein. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:43, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

And? There's new information that had to be added. ~2025-35113-26 (talk) 23:56, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

What new information? That he swam in a pool next to Ghislane? – Muboshgu (talk) 00:15, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Yes, and also when a victim was sitting on his lap. The dump contained a lot of new info.

If Trump was on those pics, the wikipedia editors would be up in arms already ~2025-35113-26 (talk) 00:25, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Oh they are up in arms,.there's a separate dedicated article for trump-epstein bromance and there's a lot and actively updated and it is linked to main Trump article ~2025-42070-64 (talk) 01:45, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Exactly what I said. Even after the dumps confirmed that Trump and Epstedin hated each other. Democrats get a pass as usual ~2025-35113-26 (talk) 11:18, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

If anyone has a serious suggestion to improve the article, you can propose a specific edit supported by reliable sources. If you want to play victim and complain about how biased we are, while making shit up that suits your narrative, we won't engage further and you'd probably find Conservapedia to be more to your liking. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:58, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Yes Clinton was most popular president of all times leaving Office not koknt most popular. Clinton had 66 % approval ratings leaving Office while Reagan had 63 % approval rating. ~2026-20807-1 (talk) 19:56, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

Clinton had the highest approval ratings leaving Office of all presidents with 66 % making him the most popular president of all times. Ronald Reagan was second with 63 %. This is very documented so saying joint most popular president is completely wrong and should be removed and say the president with highest approval ratings of all times instead ~2026-20807-1 (talk) 19:59, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

Where are you getting your numbers?

In the article, in the "Public Opinion" section, we are saying that Clinton's approval rating was 68%. We are getting that figure from a poll published by CBS News. That poll says that Clinton and Reagan both had 68%.

It's up to you to figure out why those CBS numbers are different from whatever numbers you are using. Bruce leverett (talk) 21:30, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

Mark Epstein sent an email to Jeffrey asking if the photo of trump giving Bill Clinton a bj has been kept a secret. I think the public should read about this. Someone want to write it in? ~2026-99675-0 (talk) 07:53, 18 February 2026 (UTC)

"the photo of trump giving Bill Clinton a bj" I doubt that consensual oral sex between adults should be seen as particularly scandalous. Dimadick (talk) 15:00, 18 February 2026 (UTC)

Between two presidents, not just ordinary adults ~2026-12686-95 (talk) 18:34, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

Standard procedure on site is to use the latest official photograph (usually second term portraits) for living second-term presidents to mend the divide between presenting an individual as they were during their presidency/prime, and them now. Examples include:

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  Official portrait, 2001
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  Official portrait, 2003 (currently used in article)
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  Official portrait, 2009 (used as lead image during first term)
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  Official portrait, 2012 (used as current lead image)

Under this, I think that we should use Clinton's 1999 official photograph. Since Clinton is still alive, it's a great way of showing him as president, while still showing him at an older age, which seems to have stirred up a lot of controversy on this page beforehand. Here are the image options IMO. Note that a wp:!vote for 1.1 or 1.2 counts as a general vote against 2.

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  Option 1.1: Official portrait, 1999
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  Option 1.2: Official portrait, 1999 (cropped to center on Clinton's face, but removes US flag)
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  Option 2: Official portrait, 1993 (status quo)

— Knightoftheswords 05:18, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

Support option 1.1 per nom. — Knightoftheswords 05:19, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

Support option 2 Better colour and is more recognisable. And regarding a reason you provided, your proposed image is only around 6 years away from each other. GuyMan529 (talk) 21:02, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

Still the latest official portrait, which does show him at an older age, which is again standard procedure. This will combat frequent attempts to enforce even later images of Clinton post-presidency under the argument that the 1993 portrait shows him when he's less aged. — Knightoftheswords 01:37, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

You keep referring to a "standard procedure". Where is this standard listed? Assadzadeh (talk) 01:54, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

Again, the precedent used with Bush and Obama, which has been repeatedly acknowledged by the community (for instance in this discussion a year ago). — Knightoftheswords 15:32, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the link to the earlier discussion, but of course, it looks somewhat like this discussion; I don't think it strengthens the case for or against.

I notice that Ronald Reagan uses his first-term official portrait. Richard Nixon uses his second-term official portrait. John F. Kennedy uses a 1963 portrait. Franklin D. Roosevelt uses a campaign portrait from 1944. But those guys aren't living, I suppose the right thing to do for BLP's is probably not the right thing to do for historical presidential biographies.

Other things being equal, there is some logic to using the more recent official portrait. But I have to admit, I agree with the guys who are siding with Clinton's first-term portrait. Somehow, it's more recognizable, more Clinton-esque. Bruce leverett (talk) 19:18, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

I'm not opposed to an official portrait from a president's second term, but in this case, Option 1 looks terrible: he has yellow teeth and his hair color is lighter than it actually was. It's as if a filter was used. So, unless a better portrait can be found, I would suggest staying with Option 2. Assadzadeh (talk) 07:59, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

Which in my perspective at least, he does not have any major physical changes to his face regarding his age. Still, again, the 1993 portrait is better anyway as it’s more recognisable. GuyMan529 (talk) 18:08, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

Support option 1.2. — As laid out above, it has long been standard procedure to use the second/most recent White House portrait in articles about U.S. presidents. Giovanni Potage (talk) 04:04, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

Support Option 2 Clearly a better portrait than the yellowed Option 1. Assadzadeh (talk) 17:42, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

Support option 1.2 Minermatt122514 (talk) 18:56, 18 March 2026 (UTC)