Talk:County Cork
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Town and Villages which have no sites
Their are two small town in County Cork in Particular which have no site for them including Whitechurch,County Cork and Killeens,County Cork I believe pages need to be made for them as their are lots of information about them an they are independent towns.
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one in six dominant participants in the Irish CivilWar were from Cork
HELP! Who knows something about the crest of county cork? What do all the other seals mean part from the city of cork one? Thanks a bunch!
External link/refs
One I understand to be an external link is here given as a reference. Is that as it should be?Osborne 12:19, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
List of towns
There is absolutely no need for this page to contain a "list of towns in Cork". There are already several such lists, namely: List_of_towns_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland/2006_Census_Records (which can be sorted by county), and List of census towns in the Republic of Ireland (which has a County Cork section). If it is deemed neccesary that there be a "stand alone" List of towns and villages in County Cork, then it can be created be a separate page. It should not be added as an exhaustive sub-section that "takes over" the existing article here. Guliolopez (talk) 11:58, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
And why are Carrigaline, Cobh, Mallow, etc called "Cities" in the list?
cork
i like cork —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.41.103.41 (talk) 20:00, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
My family is looking for info concerning my Pa's background. We were told he came from an area where goats were plentiful and that during his time the area had a rough reputation... Is it County Cork? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.218.136.134 (talk) 12:50, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Confusing paragraph
"In more recent times, the name has referred to the prominent role Cork played in the Irish War of Independence (1919–1921) and its position as an anti-treaty stronghold during the Irish Civil War (1922–23). And more recently in the war of independence (1919–1921) it was the scene for most of the fighting."
Something is askew here, as 1919-21 is not more recent than 1922-23. So what was the author of the last sentence referring to? AmirOnWiki (talk) 14:01, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
The new lead
The statement in the new lead which was inserted into the county articles is completely misleading; County Cork is one of the 32 traditional counties - yes. But the traditional county is not co-locational with modern Cork County Council. Sarah777 (talk) 12:30, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Cork County Council administers County Cork. The borders may have slightly changed over the centuries but there is nothing misleading about the intro. Snappy (talk) 12:33, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Having glanced at the article there does seem to be some inconsistency and/or confusion as to whether the article covers the local government County Cork (which excludes the city) or the "geographical" County Cork (which includes it). It seems to cover both without being explicit about this. Maybe that's the problem referred to?Lozleader (talk) 21:42, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- How is the area under the jurisdiction of Cork County Council considered to be "geographical", but the area under the jurisdiction of Cork City Council is not considered to be "geographical"? If it's not geographical, what is it? Some fifth dimensional entity? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurel Lodged (talk • contribs) 23:27, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Eh no... I was trying to find an inclusive term that includes both the county and city. I know that "geographical county" was often used in a UK context to describe an administrative county plus its associated county boroughs, e.g. the similar case of Leicestershire (admin county) + Leicester (county borough) forming the geographical county of Leicestershire. The "geographical" county would be the one found on most maps although in practice the area was divided administratively. The rather more antiquated term is the "County at Large".
- To reiterate: there are, it would appear, two County Corks: one that includes the city and one that doesn't. The census, for instance lists the population in one table as "Cork... of which Cork City, Cork County" and in another as "Cork City and County". The article seems to contain a lot of information pertaining to the city, and the lead gives the population figure for the county + city at the same time giving the impression that the "administrative" and "traditional" counties are identical, which they aren't. I'm not sure what a "traditional county" is (possible OR?) but I'm guessing it means County Cork as used in common parlance (how to ref that I don't know) eg city + county.
- My point was if the article is going to deal with two different things then it needs to be clear when we are talking about which.Lozleader (talk) 18:03, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- I very much agree with the points made by Lozleader, and have tried to amend the intro to clarify this point - also under discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ireland#County_intros_continued. 109.158.149.4 (talk) 14:38, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- How is the area under the jurisdiction of Cork County Council considered to be "geographical", but the area under the jurisdiction of Cork City Council is not considered to be "geographical"? If it's not geographical, what is it? Some fifth dimensional entity? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurel Lodged (talk • contribs) 23:27, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Having glanced at the article there does seem to be some inconsistency and/or confusion as to whether the article covers the local government County Cork (which excludes the city) or the "geographical" County Cork (which includes it). It seems to cover both without being explicit about this. Maybe that's the problem referred to?Lozleader (talk) 21:42, 10 April 2011 (UTC)