Talk:Cunnilingus

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Naxos2000 (talk) 17:22, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Motivation for changes: Honestly, the current version of the article, in its opening section before "Etymology and terminology" plays down the risks of contracting STDs through cunnilingus. In addition, the photo and somewhat suggestive statements about virginity loss paint the article in a more Western light centered around controversies surrounding the homo- versus heterosexual debates than previous versions and than is representative of the world as a whole. I am a university professor for this kind of topics, and had several female students point this new version of the article out to me as if it was written with the intent that more women (and to a lesser degree men) give unprotected cunnilingus to women.

Image re-organization request: The main image should not prime the reader regarding the gender of the giving person. Currently the main image is of a giving woman. That image together with that by Édouard-Henri Avril where a man is the giving person, currently displayed further down, should be displayed side-by-side at the top of the article to clearly indicate that it as act performed by a member of any sex on the vagina of another person.

Change the following text from: "" Cunnilingus is an oral sex act performed by a person on the vulva or vagina of another person.[1][2] The clitoris is the most sexually sensitive part of the human female genitalia, and its stimulation may result in a woman becoming sexually aroused or achieving orgasm.[3][4][5]

Cunnilingus can be sexually arousing for participants and may be performed by a sexual partner as foreplay to incite sexual arousal before other sexual activities (such as vaginal or anal intercourse)[1][6] or as an erotic and physically intimate act on its own.[1][2] Cunnilingus can be a risk for contracting sexually transmitted infections (STIs), but the transmission risk for oral sex, especially HIV transmission, is significantly lower than for vaginal or anal sex.[7][8]

Oral sex is often regarded as taboo,[1] but most countries do not have laws which ban the practice. Commonly, heterosexual couples do not regard cunnilingus as affecting the virginity of either partner, while lesbian couples commonly do regard it as a form of virginity loss.[9][10][11] People may also have negative feelings or sexual inhibitions about giving or receiving cunnilingus or may refuse to engage in it.[1] ""

Change the above to the following text (keeping all prior citations [1]-[11] and adding one new one from the Canadian Supreme Court):

"" Cunnilingus is an oral sex act performed on the vulva or vagina of another person.[1][2] The clitoris is the most sexually sensitive part of the human female genitalia, and its stimulation may result in a woman becoming sexually aroused or achieving orgasm.[3][4][5]

Cunnilingus can be sexually arousing for participants and may be performed by a sexual partner as foreplay to incite sexual arousal before other sexual activities (such as vaginal or anal intercourse)[1][6] or as an erotic and physically intimate act on its own.[1][2] Cunnilingus can be a risk for contracting sexually transmitted infections (STIs), but the transmission risk for oral sex, especially HIV transmission, is significantly lower than for vaginal or anal sex.[7][8] Other than with vaginal, anal and oral sex performed on the penis, however, other forms of protection than standard penis condoms need to be used to reduce such risks.

Oral sex is often regarded as taboo,[1] but most countries do not have laws which ban the practice. Many heterosexual couples do not regard cunnilingus as affecting the virginity of either partner, as active penetration is regarded essential for the loss of virginity of the man, and rupture of the virginal membrane is regarded essential for the loss of virginity of the woman. By contrast, younger couples and many lesbian couples commonly do regard it as a form of virginity loss for both parties, thus reducing the importance of penetration and rupture of the virginal membrane for the concept.[9][10][11] People may also have negative feelings or sexual inhibitions about giving or receiving cunnilingus or may refuse to engage in it.[1] Some countries, such as Canada, do not ban cunnilingus given by pets and animals such as by a dog.^[1] "" Naxos2000 (talk) 17:17, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: The lead is a summary of the article, not a place to put whatever trivia you find in primary sources. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:39, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

What Adaplkk (talk) 19:07, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

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Cunnilingus is an oral sex act performed by a person on the vulva or vagina of another person.^[1][2] The clitoris is the most sexually sensitive part of the human female genitalia, and its stimulation may result in a woman becoming sexually aroused or achieving orgasm.^[3][4][5]

Cunnilingus can be sexually arousing for participants and may be performed by a sexual partner as foreplay to incite sexual arousal before other sexual activities (such as vaginal or anal intercourse)^[1][6] or as an erotic and physically intimate act on its own.^[1][2] Cunnilingus can be a risk for contracting sexually transmitted infections (STIs), but the transmission risk for oral sex, especially HIV transmission, is significantly lower than for vaginal or anal sex.^[7][8]

Oral sex is often regarded as taboo,^[1] but most countries do not have laws which ban the practice. Commonly, heterosexual couples do not regard cunnilingus as affecting the virginity of either partner, while lesbian couples commonly do regard it as a form of virginity loss.^[9][10][11] People may also have negative feelings or sexual inhibitions about giving or receiving cunnilingus or may refuse to engage in it.^[1]

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Cunnilingus is an oral sex act performed on the vulva or vagina of another person.^[1][2] The clitoris is the most sexually sensitive part of the human female genitalia, and its stimulation may result in a woman becoming sexually aroused or achieving orgasm.^[3][4][5]

Cunnilingus can be sexually arousing for participants and may be performed by a sexual partner as foreplay to incite sexual arousal before other sexual activities (such as vaginal or anal intercourse)^[1][6] or as an erotic and physically intimate act on its own.^[1][2] Unprotected cunnilingus can be a risk for contracting sexually transmitted infections (STIs), but the transmission risk for unprotected oral sex, especially HIV transmission, is significantly lower than for unprotected vaginal or unprotected anal sex.^[7][8] Protection requires special types of condoms.

Oral sex is often regarded as taboo,^[1] but most countries do not have laws which ban the practice. Many heterosexual couples do not regard cunnilingus as affecting the virginity of either partner as long as the virginal membrane is not penetrated, while lesbian couples commonly do regard it as a form of virginity loss.^[9][10][11] People may also have negative feelings or sexual inhibitions about giving or receiving cunnilingus or may refuse to engage in it.^[1] Some countries, such as Canada, do not ban cunnilingus performed by animals and pets.^[12] Naxos2000 (talk) 18:39, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Again, the lead is a summation of the article, not a place to put trivia you found in a primary source. Please stop opening edit requests, and instead discuss the changes you'd like to make. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:43, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Sorry about this. I am new to this. I want to make the cunnilingus article more neutral. Several of my students (I am a prof on this) pointed out it is very biased, and I finally read it and agree a lot. Currently, I see a problem with the playing down of STDs as cunnilingus is rarely protected while anal and vaginal are often. Also, the main image should not be so priming, woman in the giving position, I think it should be several images showing the rich variety of who can give it. Finally, and quite horribly in my personal view, it ought to be stated that pet holder are allowed to make their animals do it in many countries (e.g. Canada). Naxos2000 (talk) 18:24, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

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Please change "performed by a person on the vulva or vagina of another person." to " performed by a person on the vulva or vagina of a female person."

No need to be ambiguous. Thank you 24.44.73.34 (talk) 02:30, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: Trans people exist. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 09:17, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

I understand but female refers to sex not gender 24.44.73.34 (talk) 10:34, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

ScottishFinnishRadish, while that's true, and the particular text in this article appears to be longstanding and it flows pretty normally as it is so I don't see a need to change it, FYI we do usually use words for the sex of a group of people in accord with the relevant reliable sources on a given topic. This is per community consensus stating that As outlined below, the terminology in articles, especially medical articles, is dependent upon the support of reliable sources and it is expected that editors would use the same terminology presented in said sources. In some articles people will make edit requests going the other direction - to replace "women" with "people with vulvas", say - and those get turned down; likewise sometimes there is a need to repair edits doing so. Crossroads ^-talk- 16:35, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Crossroads, you're more than welcome to make the edit yourself if you wish. A declined request isn't a hard ruling. As for the content issue, when dealing with describing a sex act I think that saying "another person" is a reasonable description that doesn't run into any of the issues that might arise when dealing with medical topics. There are all manner of situations, some not involving trans people, where cunnilingus can be performed on someone who is not female. Using general language covers all of those cases without leading to any imprecision that could pop up in articles on illnesses, pregnancies, genetics, or similar. Why not cover all of the use cases in a way that doesn't create any confusion? That's just my .02 though.
Also, is it cunnilingus if you perform it on yourself? I guess that might tilt things further in one direction or the other. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:02, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Cunnilingus preformed on oneself is autocunnilingus. Strangely that article also uses woman where person would suffice and be more accurate. Sideswipe9th (talk) 17:05, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

There have been studies and research done that link men performing oral sex on their partners to possible positive effects to the general health of those men. Due to low sample size and different methodology of the studies there is not an settled scientific consensus on whenever there is direct causation of those health-benefits due to the performance of cunnilingus by men. I still think this information should be included, perhaps in an "there is an scientific discussion here" kind of way. Also I think this would be good because of the media attention those studies have drawn (especially in sex-sensationalist publications).

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a47776/ways-going-down-on-you-is-good-for-his-health/

https://closeronline.co.uk/life-style/relationships/reasons-oral-sex-good-health/

https://www.yourtango.com/2017303359/proven-health-benefits-oral-sex-and-cunnilingus 2A02:3030:81B:6FBE:1:0:6259:F996 (talk) 10:31, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Please find sources that meet WP:MEDRS before adding anything about this to the article. I looked at the Cosmo article, and it's "Gee-whiz, I just pulled this stuff out of my ass right before the deadline"-type 'journalism'. Haven't read the other ones, but if they are anything like that, they are not anywhere close to suitable for this article. Mathglot (talk) 00:45, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

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Using a lesbian image in the lede implies that the practice is 'prototypically' or most commonly practiced by lesbians rather than by straight couples. In reality, since the overwhelming majority of couples involving women are straight, the average cunnilingus is probably far more likely to be performed in a straight context, even assuming that straight couples practice it somewhat less than lesbian couples do. Accordingly, the lede image should be of a straight couple. Anonymous44 (talk) 14:42, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

I absolutely agree, the main picture has to be changed so more men don't come here and use this image as excuse instead of properly educating them what they are supposed to be learning themselves that this is what they need to learn. This is so boring to see on platform that is for education. So sad that you ignore the one thing this education should provide, clarity on what men are lacking to admit. 2A0A:EF40:A7D:3501:8889:3839:4BA1:FCC9 (talk) 16:05, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

What are you even trying to say? Salvation Front (talk) 04:56, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

Under the health aspects section a paragraph should be added to discuss the possibility of contracting conjunctivitis which will occur if vaginal bacteria gets into the eyes of the person who is performing cunnilingus. ~2025-40885-37 (talk) 22:27, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Seems to have very marginal incidence. There's a trivial number of ocular STI infections (0.19 cases per 1000 eye infections in some studies). Most of these follow hand-to-eye contact rather than anything to do with cunnilingus. Eye infection from normal "vaginal bacteria" (which ones?) would be even rarer, especially the subset related to cunnilingus). On that basis it seems undue to include. Do you have some data to indicate this is a more significant issue? -- Euryalus (talk) 08:35, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

The experts can provide you with the statistical analysis data that you seek. I am not a scientist. I am just an "average joe" with common sense who has had (unfortunately) firsthand experience. If you would like to research for yourself you can start by following this link: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Cunnilingus%22+%22conjunctivitis%22&sca_esv=bdb93e76f1da42be&biw=1398&bih=768&ei=lURCaa0_-OGQ8g_pxc34Bw&ved=0ahUKEwjt3erX9sORAxX4MEQIHeliE384ChDh1QMIEA&uact=5&oq=%22Cunnilingus%22+%22conjunctivitis%22&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiHiJDdW5uaWxpbmd1cyIgImNvbmp1bmN0aXZpdGlzIkixsgFQqAlY9K4BcAF4AJABAJgBUqAB5QWqAQIxN7gBA8gBAPgBAZgCAKACAJgDAIgGAZIHAKAH8AayBwC4BwDCBwDIBwCACAA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp ~2025-41315-19 (talk) 06:19, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that you've experienced a health issue but unfortunately your experience isn't directly notable enough to justify inclusion of this very marginal health risk in this article. Mildly it's also better if you do your own research when proposing an article addition, rathe than asking others to do it for you. However: while a google search is not of itself a reliable source it's worth noting that a) the articles that appear principally relate to STI's not normal vaginal bacteria, and b) they make clear the principal vector for infection is hand-eye contact after sexual contact, not the act of cunnilingus itself. As hand-eye contact is also the principal vector for conjunctivitis from any source, the fact it also exists after sexual contact is not an especially notable issue.

I don't intend for the above to sound too negative: it's always worth discussing improvements to articles. I just feel in this case that a par on this topic would be giving undue weight to this subject. How we, other views welcome especially if accompanied by reliable sources. -- Euryalus (talk) 11:35, 17 December 2025 (UTC)