User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish
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| For dealing with that user who was harassing me. Thank you for your help! JeffSpaceman (talk) 18:12, 20 April 2026 (UTC) |
- Thanks again! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:49, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
Question
Can I ask as to why sometimes there seem to be reblocks that don't seem to be conflicts around the same few seconds? I know people have different thresholds for such subjective matters, if my duration is the issue... ~Lofty abyss 17:00, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- Because there is often other disruption from other related TAIVs that make a short duration block ineffective. In an average day of patrolling I find myself blocking at least a few TAs that you've previously blocked for 31 hours, and then often the IP address due to longer term abuse. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:02, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- If it's due to that wouldn't it be more effective to target the IP directly? With TAIVs I usually see them as if they're just more edits on top of any they currently have, and if I used to go with a 31 hour block before they were introduced, then I'd do the same now (I believe, though, that even if a TAIV is indeffed the underlying IP is only temporarily blocked). ~Lofty abyss 17:20, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- If the TA isn't indef blocked you can't tell at a glance how many related TAs are blocked from the contributions page, which makes everyone's job harder. There are >10,000 blocks a month, so the 10 seconds it takes to click and load the additional TA contribs/block log adds dozens of hours of volunteer labor a month. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:24, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- You mean because of the changed icon? Well, if that's the reason then, presumably, the mediawiki interface can be changed (if a request is made to its devs) to differ when it's temporarily blocked, too, even if I didn't necessarily notice a difference until now (I enabled a script that can differentiate between temporary/permanent blocks, so don't usually rely on the icons...) ~Lofty abyss 17:32, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- Mark blocked strikes out the names of blocked users. There's also a gadget in preferences that does that. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:44, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- My point is that I'm not quite certain if it "adds dozens of hours of volunteer labor a month", as others might be using these scripts too, and it's easy to do so, nonetheless, even if they weren't before; although, sure, it'd be more time-consuming to load up contribs (personally, even before using this specific script, I relied on popups, which can still show who's blocked), so I'm not entirely sure if this is a recent issue, after TAIVs were introduced (graphical icons can also be changed), but I don't think temporary/permanent blocks were much in contention before then... ~Lofty abyss 12:45, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- Lofty abyss, please, just indef vandal TAs. The only reason IPs aren't indeffed is because they could be shared or change. That isn't an issue with TAs, so just indef them like you would any other vandalism only account. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:31, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- Well, my earlier mention of subjective thresholds I think makes sense, here... I mean, sure, IPs are not an issue now, but that's not the only reason why I go with temporary at times, and in the case of sources being needed I think it makes sense for it to be temporary, to see if they have any sources they could include thereafter. Sure, they could request an unblock, and such, but it always seemed to me, in certain situations, to be more efficient if temporary/permanent are used in this way (although, sure, thresholds differ), and it's not like I don't go permanent for some TAs, I just usually want to see an intentional aspect, if it's blatant vandalism (and if you're thinking of the article about that military ambush, they seemed to be claiming some weren't civilians, which doesn't seem to be blatant vandalism, and might possibly be the case if sourced, but I didn't know much about the subject matter to know either way, at any rate... it still seems to me though, generally, that in uncertain/unsourced, or not egregious cases, that temporary blocks can be used...) ~Lofty abyss 16:18, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- Did you check the filter hits where they were attempting to replace the article with "NPA NPA NPA"" (Special:AbuseLog/44080159 Special:AbuseLog/44080165)? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:21, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- I happened to miss that, as I usually look at those logs if they hadn't edited after the final warning, to see if they still tried to edit but were filtered... not sure why they did that (which still doesn't seem to clarify intentionality one way or another)... I don't mind if some are indeffed (as long as there's some kind of disruption), to be clear, but I ended up with certain ways of sort of flowcharting this mentally over time (as described above), that seems to be somewhat rational (even if others have different approaches... like, I wouldn't usually block if it's not after the final warning and not egregious, but some do... I can certainly look at filter logs more, though). ~Lofty abyss 18:40, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- There's a script for that, User:Daniel Quinlan/Scripts/Unfiltered.js. It adds filter hits to the contributions page. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:42, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- That seems useful... would be even more if popups could function upon hovering over the diff... ~Lofty abyss 19:07, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- Lofty_abyss, Special:Contributions/~2026-26033-86 is another example. 9 associated temp accounts, the underlying IP had 5 previous blocks, the last one for a year. You temp blocked the TA and wasted the time of another admin as well as another editor who had to revert their vandalism. If you're not going to do due diligence when investigating vandal reports at least just indef the temp accounts. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:52, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- None of the other TAs are blocked... by due diligence you mean checking the IP's logs? You do that every time? Because it was just made more difficult now, since TAs are a feature, as before TW would show the logs in the interface, but now one would need to go there specifically... so, ideally, really, it's somehow automated as well, whether in MW or TW, as going there manually would take several clicks; this seems to be a problem, not any intent to waste any time, but if TAs made the process a bit more inefficient I presume the devs can ameliorate the situation... ~Lofty abyss 18:05, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- Lofty_abyss, Special:Contributions/~2026-26033-86 is another example. 9 associated temp accounts, the underlying IP had 5 previous blocks, the last one for a year. You temp blocked the TA and wasted the time of another admin as well as another editor who had to revert their vandalism. If you're not going to do due diligence when investigating vandal reports at least just indef the temp accounts. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:52, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- That seems useful... would be even more if popups could function upon hovering over the diff... ~Lofty abyss 19:07, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- There's a script for that, User:Daniel Quinlan/Scripts/Unfiltered.js. It adds filter hits to the contributions page. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:42, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- I happened to miss that, as I usually look at those logs if they hadn't edited after the final warning, to see if they still tried to edit but were filtered... not sure why they did that (which still doesn't seem to clarify intentionality one way or another)... I don't mind if some are indeffed (as long as there's some kind of disruption), to be clear, but I ended up with certain ways of sort of flowcharting this mentally over time (as described above), that seems to be somewhat rational (even if others have different approaches... like, I wouldn't usually block if it's not after the final warning and not egregious, but some do... I can certainly look at filter logs more, though). ~Lofty abyss 18:40, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- Did you check the filter hits where they were attempting to replace the article with "NPA NPA NPA"" (Special:AbuseLog/44080159 Special:AbuseLog/44080165)? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:21, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- Well, my earlier mention of subjective thresholds I think makes sense, here... I mean, sure, IPs are not an issue now, but that's not the only reason why I go with temporary at times, and in the case of sources being needed I think it makes sense for it to be temporary, to see if they have any sources they could include thereafter. Sure, they could request an unblock, and such, but it always seemed to me, in certain situations, to be more efficient if temporary/permanent are used in this way (although, sure, thresholds differ), and it's not like I don't go permanent for some TAs, I just usually want to see an intentional aspect, if it's blatant vandalism (and if you're thinking of the article about that military ambush, they seemed to be claiming some weren't civilians, which doesn't seem to be blatant vandalism, and might possibly be the case if sourced, but I didn't know much about the subject matter to know either way, at any rate... it still seems to me though, generally, that in uncertain/unsourced, or not egregious cases, that temporary blocks can be used...) ~Lofty abyss 16:18, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- Lofty abyss, please, just indef vandal TAs. The only reason IPs aren't indeffed is because they could be shared or change. That isn't an issue with TAs, so just indef them like you would any other vandalism only account. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:31, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- My point is that I'm not quite certain if it "adds dozens of hours of volunteer labor a month", as others might be using these scripts too, and it's easy to do so, nonetheless, even if they weren't before; although, sure, it'd be more time-consuming to load up contribs (personally, even before using this specific script, I relied on popups, which can still show who's blocked), so I'm not entirely sure if this is a recent issue, after TAIVs were introduced (graphical icons can also be changed), but I don't think temporary/permanent blocks were much in contention before then... ~Lofty abyss 12:45, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- Mark blocked strikes out the names of blocked users. There's also a gadget in preferences that does that. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:44, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- You mean because of the changed icon? Well, if that's the reason then, presumably, the mediawiki interface can be changed (if a request is made to its devs) to differ when it's temporarily blocked, too, even if I didn't necessarily notice a difference until now (I enabled a script that can differentiate between temporary/permanent blocks, so don't usually rely on the icons...) ~Lofty abyss 17:32, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- If the TA isn't indef blocked you can't tell at a glance how many related TAs are blocked from the contributions page, which makes everyone's job harder. There are >10,000 blocks a month, so the 10 seconds it takes to click and load the additional TA contribs/block log adds dozens of hours of volunteer labor a month. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:24, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- You should be checking the other TAs to see if they had been vandalizing as well, as you would look at the entire IP editing history before TAs were implemented. That also ties into indeffing so it's clear at a glance that other related TAs are blocked. It takes less time to check IP history, both with TAs and legacy, than to duplicate work down the line. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:11, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- Other TAs seemed to have a mixture of disruptive, and mildly constructive edits, so I wasn't sure about an indef, since I usually only go for that when the vandalistic intent is clear (whereas with this some words seemed to have been changed for some reason, which might be tests, I couldn't know for sure), but, ultimately, it would be useful if there was some script or such that listed the IP's blocks, as it was much easier before to know at a glance (TW even shows duration/expiry). ~Lofty abyss 18:27, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- If it's due to that wouldn't it be more effective to target the IP directly? With TAIVs I usually see them as if they're just more edits on top of any they currently have, and if I used to go with a 31 hour block before they were introduced, then I'd do the same now (I believe, though, that even if a TAIV is indeffed the underlying IP is only temporarily blocked). ~Lofty abyss 17:20, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
Very well deserved barnstar
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| I really thought that my case at WP:ANI will fall unnoticed because I had seen few editors just appeasing to the vandal but you did a great job. Please keep doing what you do, ScottishFinnishRadish. :) Sddarealone (talk) 12:09, 4 May 2026 (UTC) |
- Thank you kindly. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:49, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
Republican Party RfC Thanks
Hey I just wanted to say thanks for helping out with the Republican Party (United States) RfC. You and Chaotic Enby saved everyone from a much bigger can of worms Retr0r0cket (talk) 05:54, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- Glad to help. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:48, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
HistoryofIran impersonator
I'm not sure who HistoryufIran is, but they seem to be loutsocking as ~2026-27329-97. They've also edited on glkwiki. Any chance you could clear this up? Thanks. lp0 on fire () 14:32, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- I've blocked them locally, which is all I can do. Thanks for the heads up. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:07, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
Your block of ElrondHubbard666
You blocked User:ElrondHubbard666 as a sock of User:Inhailerradio were you aware that Inhailerradio was softblocked not hardblocked? So technically its not socking as creating a new account is allowed on a sofblock. Personally, given the edits I'd agree that Inhailerradio should have been hardblocked, but they were softblocked so the creation of ElrondHubbard666 is not technically in violation of sock puppetry. Lavalizard101 (talk) 21:30, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- I've unblocked with a warning, deferring to 331dot's judgement on the soft block. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:44, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- I think it was close but I came down on the soft side as they had disclosed their relationship with the station and used the draft process, and I've seen more promotional drafts than that. But I can understand the differing view. 331dot (talk) 21:53, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- And the draft isn't so bad that I actioned the speedy. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:05, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- I think it was close but I came down on the soft side as they had disclosed their relationship with the station and used the draft process, and I've seen more promotional drafts than that. But I can understand the differing view. 331dot (talk) 21:53, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
Negative userpage
Sir ratinigton the 1 (talk · contribs)
Userpage says "Burger King is bad"; is this a misuse of user page or not? --みんな空の下 (トーク) 11:39, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- It doesn't rise to the level of having to take any action. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:41, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
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TBAN clarification
Hi SFR,
I want to clarify my current PIA 90 day TBAN. Obviously there is a AE discussion ongoing and I had posted some links to prior AE discussions started by Samuelshraga. Some of those links were concerning PIA and I was thinking that linking them was permitted under WP:BANEX. However, I've now reverted to remove the comments/links as I thought I should seek clarification from you. Does BANEX permit me to post links to those prior reports filed by Samuelshraga at AE? TarnishedPathtalk 07:01, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
- It falls under banex of it's the section about your behavior. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 09:55, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
- It was text/diffs about Samuelshraga's behaviour. Is that covered by the part of BANEX that states
Engaging in legitimate and necessary dispute resolution
. TarnishedPathtalk 09:59, 10 May 2026 (UTC)- Another editor's behavior is not covered except in cases of clear vandalism. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:01, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
- OK, my apologies then. I thought it was and then removed it when I thought I should seek clarification. TarnishedPathtalk 10:04, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
- Another editor's behavior is not covered except in cases of clear vandalism. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:01, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
- It was text/diffs about Samuelshraga's behaviour. Is that covered by the part of BANEX that states
~2026-27916-69 talk page access
Any chance you could revoke talk page access at User talk:~2026-27916-69. Thanks. 10mmsocket (talk) 13:32, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
- Done, thanks for the heads up. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:58, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
~2026-29067-93
Whack-a-mole time. Another Absolutiva sock. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 22:34, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- All set. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:44, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- JMF (talk · contribs) does not know about extended-confirmed restriction in contentious topics area about Indian military history. By the way, it remains unprotected. ~2026-29131-15 (talk) 23:00, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
Autoblock hit me
Hello! a block you placed on user:5.149.14.37 has hit me as i was editing draft:sparx maths if possible could you permit me to continue editing please? Jabba550 ✉ Talk to me :D 09:13, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
- Jabba550, I've softened the block so you should be all set. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:51, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
- thanks for that :D Jabba550 ✉ Talk to me :D 13:04, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
MW Message Delivery
Intrigued by edits here and here. Sock puppetry? Thanks, -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:56, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
- ImJustHereForThis is probably just fucking around with multiple accounts at different times based on behavior. I assume the LTA just pulled a couple new accounts from the creation log, and I didn't see anything when I looked at them. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:16, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
User:ConsumersDistributingonline
He's back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2026-26572-27 (talk) 00:40, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
- Blocked, thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:46, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
Talk:Jon Schillaci
Hey, @ScottishFinnishRadish. This edit is not disruption, and what is {{Connected contributor}} template? I don't know what exactly is. —KuyaMoHirowo (talk • contribs) 11:32, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
- It was disruption, and you apparently restored it without knowing what it was. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:33, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
- Gotcha! I've check this diffs and was suppressed. My bad for now. :) —KuyaMoHirowo (talk • contribs) 11:37, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
Appeal inquiry
Hi, @ScottishFinnishRadish. I hope you do not mind me reaching out. I would like to ask for your advice as a member of the Arbitration Committee regarding my GENSEX topic ban.
I'd like to ask whether an appeal would be possible at this stage? (The length of the ban was not made apparent to me.) And if so, what would be the best way to approach it? The ban was imposed as an administrative action and later endorsed by ArbCom.
Since the sanction was imposed, I haven't edited within the GENSEX topic area and have instead focused on contributing elsewhere on Wikipedia. Over the past several months, I have created a number of new articles and worked to contribute constructively in other areas.
I acknowledge that the conduct leading to the sanction was inappropriate, and I accept responsibility for it. Since the sanction, I have tried to contribute as meaningfully to Wikipedia as possible and do not intend to repeat the behaviour that resulted in this outcome.
Thank you for your time and guidance. Sean Waltz O'Connell (talk) 12:27, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
- Just to be clear, Arbcom didn't take over your sanction, so it's still a standard CTOP topic ban. I think that 9 months is a decent amount of time to wait for an appeal, as the standard is normally 6 or 12 months for Arbcom sanctions. CTOP sanctions can always be appealed immediately. At a glance it looks like you've only had about 250 edits since the sanction, which is a bit on the low side, but it does show you've been active at roughly your original level. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:33, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rapid Response Force
Hi @ScottishFinnishRadish,
I noticed that your closing of the Afd didn't go as expected. It appears Template:At was deleted few weeks ago.
I went ahead and replaced it in the Afd with {{subst:Afd top}} and {{subst:Afd bottom}}. Just a heads up in case I got something wrong. – NJD-DE (talk) 19:42, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. Looks like I'll have to find an updated afd closing script. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:49, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
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Help request
Hey there; I wanted to ask an admin for help with an ongoing situation. Something is going on with this user that isn't quite right and I think needs admin attention. I'm coming to an admin directly because I have undone some of this user's edits based on poor sourcing, and contributed to them being blocked for a time - I don't want to attract their attention given what they're currently doing by pinging them or trying to report them to the incident noticeboard. Is it okay to ask if you can take a look at what's going on and try to help them, or at least stop the disruption and harassment? I left an identical help message with another admin, but they may have gone offline. It seems like this needs attention sooner than later, so I thought asking a few people wouldn't hurt. Pikkupapupata 💌 🌷 08:33, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
- (Answered by two administrators with a request to take it to ANI.) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 09:18, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:05, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
My user page was vandalized
I just woke up to my user page being vandalized. I have since reverted it, but I know the user who vandalized it: RobinMiner$$ RobloxMiner$$ (talk) 12:32, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
- Looks like this was already addressed. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:02, 19 May 2026 (UTC)