Talk:Forty hadith
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This article needs to be moved
Main problems are:
• This article contains the actual text of the work. It should not be here but in Wikisource.
• The article title is too general; Forty Hadith is merely a genre of Hadith literature. There are many “Forty Hadith” collections by different authors.
• There is already an article Imam Nawawi's Forty Hadith.
I suggest an able Wikipedian transfer this to Wikisource, where I just checked and they don't have a copy of the work. I will check in two weeks before attempting to do it myself.
Trimmed and renewed
As per the above list, I have moved the text of the book to a new ad-hoc Wikisource article. I have also changed the object of this article to correspond with the title, that is, a general subject: arbaʿīniyyāt. Accordingly, I moved some of the refs to the dedicated article Imam Nawawi's Forty Hadith.
Desde la Torre (talk) 13:13, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:26, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
- ... that works in the forty hadith genre (example pictured) may contain as few as twenty-nine hadiths?
- Source: Bartschat, Swantje (2023). "The Prophet's Ideal in Pocket-Size". Beyond Authenticity, Alternative Approaches to Hadith Narrations and Collections. Leiden: Brill. pp. 96–132. doi:10.1163/9789004529083_005. ISBN 978-90-04-52908-3.
Next to collections like the one of al-Dāraquṭnī being divided into forty chapters with even more hadiths, there are varying numbers from 29 up to 48 hadiths in collections called forty hadith, the most prominent example being the Forty Hadith of al-Nawawī which contain indeed 42 counted prophetic traditions.
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- Source: Bartschat, Swantje (2023). "The Prophet's Ideal in Pocket-Size". Beyond Authenticity, Alternative Approaches to Hadith Narrations and Collections. Leiden: Brill. pp. 96–132. doi:10.1163/9789004529083_005. ISBN 978-90-04-52908-3.
- ALT1: ... that works in the forty hadith genre (example pictured) were produced based on a hadith promising special treatment on Judgement Day?
- Source: Bartschat, Swantje (2023). "The Prophet's Ideal in Pocket-Size". Beyond Authenticity, Alternative Approaches to Hadith Narrations and Collections. Leiden: Brill. pp. 96–132. doi:10.1163/9789004529083_005. ISBN 978-90-04-52908-3.
Next to the preservation of hadiths as a resulting advantage in this world, there are several advantages concerning the hereafter. Muslims collecting forty hadiths benefit in the ways that are described in the man ḥafiẓa-hadiths mentioned above, like being with the scholars on the Day of Judgement, like Muḥammad interceding on behalf of them, or like choosing the door to enter paradise directly. In addition to that, the scholars encouraging others to deal with forty hadith and therefore benefit from it, live in hope of an even higher reward.
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- Source: Bartschat, Swantje (2023). "The Prophet's Ideal in Pocket-Size". Beyond Authenticity, Alternative Approaches to Hadith Narrations and Collections. Leiden: Brill. pp. 96–132. doi:10.1163/9789004529083_005. ISBN 978-90-04-52908-3.
- ALT2: ... that more than 900 works in the forty hadith genre (example pictured) have been itemized, and the total number might never be known?
- Source: More than 900: Bartschat, Swantje (2023). "The Prophet's Ideal in Pocket-Size". Beyond Authenticity, Alternative Approaches to Hadith Narrations and Collections. Leiden: Brill. pp. 96–132. doi:10.1163/9789004529083_005. ISBN 978-90-04-52908-3.
Apart from Karahan's study, another noteworthy attempt to record as many forty hadith as possible is the research of Sahl al-ʿŪd, al-Muʿīn ʿalā maʿrifa kutub al-Arbaʿīn min aḥādīth Sayyid al-Mursalīn, which he published 1426/2005 in Beirut, already listing more than five hundred collections. Ten years later, I came across more than nine hundred forty hadith during my own quantitative research.
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- Source: More than 900: Bartschat, Swantje (2023). "The Prophet's Ideal in Pocket-Size". Beyond Authenticity, Alternative Approaches to Hadith Narrations and Collections. Leiden: Brill. pp. 96–132. doi:10.1163/9789004529083_005. ISBN 978-90-04-52908-3.
- Might never be known: Gharaibeh, Mohammad (2025). "Ibn Rajab's Commentary on al-Nawawī's Forty Hadith: Innovation and Audience in the Jāmiʿ al-ʿulūm wa-l-ḥikam". In Blecher, Joel; Brinkmann, Stefanie (eds.). Hadith Commentary: Continuity and Change. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. pp. 132–149. ISBN 978-1-4744-6106-1.
The total number of forty hadith collections might never be fully known, although some have tried to establish their precise number.
- Might never be known: Gharaibeh, Mohammad (2025). "Ibn Rajab's Commentary on al-Nawawī's Forty Hadith: Innovation and Audience in the Jāmiʿ al-ʿulūm wa-l-ḥikam". In Blecher, Joel; Brinkmann, Stefanie (eds.). Hadith Commentary: Continuity and Change. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. pp. 132–149. ISBN 978-1-4744-6106-1.
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- Comment: Another potential article for Eid; request holding it as we make a set.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 18:47, 21 February 2026 (UTC).
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Looks good. Spot check of work doesn't indicate any copyvio issues. Prefer ALT1 personally; ALT0 is fine as well, though ALT2 is only sort of on the cusp of interesting, in my opinion. Totally agree that this would be worth holding for Eid. Thanks for the great new article, Chris! ThaesOfereode (talk) 19:02, 22 February 2026 (UTC)