Talk:Jats

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The article lead is not properly updated with information that is in the article. There is a lot more information that can and should be included to be a general description and intro of the article, especially since some of the information is outdated.

You can copy this (vast majority of this information is already in this article):

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Jats

Jats of the Baliyan Khap
Total population
~33 million (2009 estimation)[1]
Regions with significant populations
Pakistan	~21 million (2009 estimation)[1]
India	~12 million (2009 estimation)[1]
Languages
Braj • Hindi • Haryanvi • Khariboli • Punjabi (and its dialects) • Rajasthani • Sindhi (and its dialects) • Urdu
Religion
Hinduism • Islam • Sikhism

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The Jats (Hindi: [dʒaːʈ], Punjabi: [dʒəʈː]), also spelt Jaat, Jatt,^[2] and Jutt, are a traditionally agricultural and pastoralist community in India and Pakistan.^{[3][4][a][b][c]} They are mainly found in the Indian states of Punjab, Haryana, Uttar Pradesh, and Rajasthan, and the Pakistani provinces of Punjab, Sindh, and Azad Kashmir. Indian Jats are mostly Hindus or Sikhs, while Pakistani Jats are mostly Muslims.

The first references to Jats^[8][9] were in the 5th and 6th century, in the areas of modern Gilgit Baltistan and Pakistani Punjab, in the form of inscriptions^[10][11] and occasional mentions by local writers.^[12] In the 8th century, Umayyad chroniclers noted the presence of Jats in Sindh,^[13] and would expand the use of this term to include most pastoralists along the Indus.^[14][15] By the 11th century, several clans had established themselves in Jangladesh, forming autonomous chiefdoms.^[16] Over the next few centuries, Jats would migrate up from Sindh and Rajasthan, and resettle in the Punjab, adopting an agrarian lifestyle.^[17][18] Jat khaps would also form and establish themselves as far east as the Ganga-Yamuna Doab.^[19] Between the 17th and 19th centuries, the Jats established regional states in Braj and Punjab, such as the Kingdoms of Bharatpur^[20] and Patiala.^[21]

Modern landowning Jat families have become an influential group in both India and Pakistan, especially in the Punjab,^[22][23] Western Uttar Pradesh,^[24] Rajasthan,^[25] and Delhi.^[26] Many Jats have now transitioned into urban jobs, with some using their economic and political resources to claim higher social status.^[27]

ProfessorBraj111 (talk) 04:08, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

Such major changes will require consensus. THEZDRX _{(User) | (Contact)} 13:18, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

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Add this image and caption of Saadulla Khan to Muslim Jat section:

And this text at the bottom of the section:

"Muslim Jats in Pakistan form a prominent political class, abiding by the biradri system.^[1][2] Muley Jats in India are less influential, and instead continue to participate in the traditional khap system alongside their Hindu clansmen.^[3]"

ProfessorBraj111 (talk) 18:40, 10 February 2026 (UTC)

Note: Muley Jats in India are less influential sounds non-neutral, especially since that's not directly mentioned in the source. I may be wrong though, so feel free to explain if that's not the case. 🍅 fx (talk) 10:17, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

Good point. It was a bit unclear but I meant compared to the Muslim Jats in Pakistan. Anyway, we can just remove that part and say "Many Muley Jats in India choose to continue participating in the traditional khap system instead, working alongside their Hindu clansmen." ProfessorBraj111 (talk) 19:14, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

Partly done: I added the image. Sources 2 and 3 do not verify the text, so I have not added it. I am unable to access Source 1, but if you quote the reopen the request and quote the relevant section I'll take a look. InfernoHues (talk) 20:57, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Hello Editors,

I am requesting the addition of the "Attri" (also spelled Atri, Atre, or Atreya) clan to the list of Jat clans/gotras on this page. Currently, this historically significant clan is missing.

To ensure strict adherence to Wikipedia's verifiability guidelines (WP:RS), I am providing reliable historical and literary sources to support this addition:

1. Historical Scholarly References: > Historian B.S. Dahiya, in his detailed ethnographical work "Jats: The Ancient Rulers (A Clan Study)", extensively documents the Attri clan. He distinguishes the Jat clan 'Attri' from the Brahmin gotra of the same name by citing ancient texts to establish their separate tribal identity.

2. Ancient Literary References: > - The Mahabharata (Bhishma Parva, VI.10.67) mentions the 'Atreya' as a primitive northwestern tribe. They are distinctly identified separately from Brahmins in this context. Panini's Ashtadhyayi also records the Atreya tribe. The Markandeya Purana mentions the Atris alongside the Lampakas.

3. Additional Ethnographical Context: H. W. Bellew, in "An Enquiry Into the Ethnography of Afghanistan", provides relevant geographical and tribal linkages regarding the early origins of these clans around the Pothohar plateau region.

4. Geographical Distribution: The Attri Jats have a very prominent demographic presence in Western Uttar Pradesh, with a dense concentration of historical villages in districts like Aligarh, Bulandshahr, and Gautam Buddha Nagar, as well as in regions of Haryana and Delhi-NCR.

Could an editor please review these scholarly citations and add the Attri clan to the article? Thank you for your time and efforts in maintaining the accuracy of this page. Ftdivyanshh (talk) 05:53, 20 February 2026 (UTC)

You have to do an extended-confirmed-edit, use the edit request wizard. Otherwise this is just a regular comment. Jiasu8d (talk) 02:32, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

Why is the history subdivided by religion? I don't see articles of other ethnic groups or castes doing this. The Hindu, Muslim, Sikh divide should only be relevant when talking about religion. Otherwise, you should state the general history in chronological order, and let those curious about more details see the respective Muslim Jat and Sikh Jat page. A Hindu Jat page should also be made by that logic. Justthereply30 (talk) 07:41, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

Yea, Hindu Jats deserve their own page. Right now, there is only content on Brajwasi Jats (without information on how they supported the faith in historically religiously-significant Mathura area). No details on Bishnoi Jats, or much of anything of Rajasthan or Haryana in general (except brief mention of Jangladesh). There is no talk of the major impact that Arya Samaj had on the Jats (there was a legitimate movement of Jats advocating for converting to Sikhism to escape Shudra status, so Dayananda Saraswati promised to advocate for them to be accepted as Kshatriya). There's also major Hindu figures like Tejaji, and he didn't even get a passing mention. Jiasu8d (talk) 02:36, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

I agree, but you will have to bring this to an admin. Justthereply30 (talk) 05:27, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

Also we miss a lot of nuance if we accept this Partition-affirming approach. For example, the rise of cults like Sultanism which were popular across religious lines. Or how some Punjabi Muslim Jats kept Purohits for ceremonial rites. Or how Hindu and Sikh Jats often intermixed, both on state-level (Jind Sikh princess marrying Ballabgarh Hindu prince) and common-level (Pacchade Sikhs mixing with Deshwali Hindus). Jiasu8d (talk) 02:47, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

You should note the sources for these. I also heard similar things but Wikipedia needs verifiable source to make claims. Then we can add this. Justthereply30 (talk) 05:27, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

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Add Dhaka clan in Jat clan list as they are also a clan in Jat and has significantly contributed for the community ~2026-23038-05 (talk) 22:25, 14 April 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want made. MadGuy7023 (talk) 22:31, 14 April 2026 (UTC)

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The clan "Waince" is not included in the list of Jat clans, it should be included. Dreadolisk (talk) 06:35, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want made. {{GearsDatapacks|talk|contribs}} 11:17, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

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Etymology section is misleading, it only gives one theory and doesn't mention that it is disputed. It should still keep that information, but it needs to be rewritten:

The etymology of the Indo-Aryan term "Jat" (and its female form, "Jatni"^[1]) is still debated. The different spelling variations are due to dialect differences: Hindi pronounces it as Jaat, Chardha Punjabi as Jatt, and Lahnda Punjabi as Jutt.

In much of Punjab, the term "Jat" was used as a socioeconomic label, roughly synonymous with peasant by the Mughal era.^[2][3] In Sindh, "Jat" could refer to either peasants, to the Jats of Punjab (جاٽ, pronounced with a hard 't'), or to the camel-herding Jath (جت, pronounced with a soft 't') people who integrated into the Baloch identity.^[4][5] The term "Jadgal" (lit. 'Jaṭṭ-speakers'^[6]) is derived from Jat, and was traditionally used by the Baloch to refer to any Sindhis who live amongst them.

The first indisputable mentions of Jats would be by 10th century Ghaznavid-era scholars such as Al-Biruni, who would note their presence across Northern India, from the banks of the Indus River to Krishna's city of Mathura.^[7][8]