Talk:Lucknow
City in Uttar Pradesh , India
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Cover picture change required
Guys can somebody suggest a good cover picture. I visited this page after like one years, and saw that this pic is really not up to the mark. Apart from Hazratganj no other monument can be seen properly. Look at any other "standard" city page, the pics are much more clearer and larger though they might be fewer. So we need like four good and large pics instead of six or seven small pics!. Please look into this. Let us have some sort of consensus over this.
I think a Photo of Lucknow Metro,Hazrat Ganj,Gomti River front,Vidhan Sabha,Gyaneshwar Mishra park,The Residency and Imambara would be great...The photos on the City page are old and I strongly feel sad that no one has changed it yet..As a Lucknow resident it pains me to see these old photos.
Please someone change it or let me change it. Lucknowite7866 (talk) 03:58, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
Photograph of Lucknow in the Information Box
Just a request, for those who are good at photoshop, is it possible to have a picture with Lucknow's principal monuments placed in boxes, the way Delhi, Mumbai and Jaipur (among other Indian cites' pages on Wikipedia) have? It would make a world of difference to the initial look and feel of the page. I agree with you. Please read my comment above.
Thanks Einstein90 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Einstein90 (talk • contribs) 17:54, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
- Why don't you ask a more experienced photo editor yourself? It will speed up the process. :) MakingTheMark •Wassup doc? 17:58, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
I just uploaded a montage of lucknow monuments in the profile box . . i guess thats what u were talking abt 220.225.78.6 (talk) 08:27, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Restructuring and Reorganizing
I have totally restructured and reorganized this article. I have been working on adding more media to this article and adding references. I also think that the prose of this article needs to be improved upon. I would continue working on abstraction and encapsulation of this article. Jainrajat11 (talk) 14:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Archived messages
Article's a minor mess. Seems to be more like a tourist brochure than an encyclopedia article. Amar | Talk 06:15, Jul 8, 2004 (UTC)
- It's been more than three years since the above comment was posted, and the article still reads like a tourist brochure. Statements like "Courtly manners, beautiful gardens, poetry, music, and fine cuisine patronized by the Nawabs are well known among Indians and students of South Asian culture and history" are desperately in need of citations and/or revisions. Lucknow may very well be a lovely city, but the entire entry is so loaded with POV that it's almost completely useless. 75.219.231.16 18:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
- This is hardly started. I will try an extensive writeup in a couple of days. Surely Lucknow deserves better! -- Mohan Ravichandran
- Surely we have to re-do this article as there is abundance of content but every thing seems to be hotch-potch. I had tried to bring some harmony to the article previously but was not successful, probably this time with all you guys we'll do it. --Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvi (talk) 05:18, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Lucknow Metro Rail Project
Lucknow Metro Rail Project is coming soon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.242.29.27 (talk) 02:36, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
The population data seems to be fraud
The population data is not as released by the Government of India, and the links for citation also don't justify the data. No website claims that it has touched the 5 million mark.
Raag87 (talk) 05:03, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
The population data is inaccurate please change and the area also has increased Harith Khan (talk) 17:36, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
Editors Attention!
While editing please take care of not removing source content. If you have anything agains the source plz mention that here at Talk page. --Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvitalk! 06:56, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- There is great confusion between data of Lucknow District, Lucknow Metropolitan & Lucknow Urban demographies. Articles need a thorough revision keeping these points in mind.--Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvitalk! 05:59, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Rewrite
Hi, I am proposing that we rewrite the article from a NPOV. Let's just say that words like excellent, quaint don't fit in with the feel of an encyclopedia. Let's shape the content thoroughly so that this city of our's can be a featured city. Atif.t2 (talk) 00:16, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- You can count me in the drive(but I'll be available back on 2009-X-20).-Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvitalk! 07:25, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi Faiz, I want to develop a consensus on the number of images in the artcile. I really feel that we should limit them. The pictures of foods and old maps really look unnecessary in an encyclopedic artcile about a city. Maybe we should branch out extra information about Lucknow, Maybe a page like cuisines in Lucknow instead of overstuffing the pages with images. Atif.t2 (talk) 16:44, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Higher education in Lucknow
We have a well established Campus of English and Foriegn Languages Uninversity In Lucknow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.161.114.31 (talk) 07:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
- Ok! I got the article on wikipedia English_and_Foreign_Languages_University#Lucknow_campus, and I am linking it to this page. --Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haidertcs 10:04, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
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WHY THE ENGLISH NAME?
Who gave the city its present English name "LUCKNOW" (LUCK NOW)?--88.24.240.40 (talk) 02:56, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
- It is not English name, its just Anglicized form of local name Lakh'nau, it has nothing to do with Luck or now.--Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haidertcs 03:36, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Name
We don't seem to have an etymology for the name.
Two characters in the book Kim, highly regarded in India BTW, deliberately pronounce the name as "Nucklao". Which seems "backwards." Why do they do this? Does this altered name mean something in Hindi or Urdu?
It also implies that it was called this as a "nickname". While Kim is fictional, it tends to be quite accurate. The author was raised in India. Student7 (talk) 17:00, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Unencyclopedic
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I request to all IP editors, be bold but don't be inattentive. Thanks..!! --25 CENTS VICTORIOUS Be Calm 16:35, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Elevation
The infobox says the elevation is 128 m, while it is given as 123.45 m in the text. I don't doubt that both numbers are correct for different parts of the city, but it looks inconsistent so it should probably be consolidated. I don't know how the elevations of cities are usually measured: probably only at some kind of central point? In any case, the 123.45 number, memorable digit pattern aside, is ridiculously overprecise. 85.226.204.42 (talk) 10:31, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
- You are correct. I did little bit of research and got following result:
Sr No Source Elevation (in meters above sea level) 1 lucknow.org.uk 123 2 onefivenine.com 116 - 133 3 dateandtime.info 131 4 weather.gladstonefamily.net 128 5 maps-streetview.com 131 6 thetimenow.com 124 - Now with so much of varying data arises the question of what to select & put on article. Any suggestions?--Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haidertcs 14:53, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
- I never knew so many different (read incorrect) elevation data are all over the internet!
- The correct one is 123.45mts. It is written on all the 'Lucknow' signs at the Charbagh Railway Station. It is there since ages. Seeing that only, I check elevation of different cities while travelling by train... One more thing I would like to say to back my proposition is, that GPOs are placed at the very centre of the cities, a place called the 'capitol' (meaning heart of the city). It denoted the base point to measure distance of other cities/landmarks from the city in question. So, in my thinking, elevation measured at the city's main railway station should be taken into consideration for the overall/average elevation of the city... Regards Martinian Leave a message! 11:16, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Protection Request
I request the administrator of this page to increase the protection level of this page to semi-protected. All major cities have a semi protected page and this page too is on a high risk of vandalism. Being a Lucknowite it hurts to see wrong English or factual errors on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiboy2364 (talk • contribs) 09:04, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- Raised request for semi-protection here.--Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haidertcs 19:05, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Serious Case Of Vandalism
this user is coming on Lucknow page and editing the page with unsourced wrong content and blanking out various paragraphs altogether. I've been seeing him and its very serious now. He blanked out the first 5 paragraphs. I undid the revision and looked up to this person and saw that he got a block warning for doing the same thing to Hyderabad page. I request the admin to block this user. He is using diff IPs also. I'm listing IPs: 122.163.211.160, 103.18.72.81, 1.38.20.36 Wikiboy2364 (talk) 04:24, 24 February 2014
Update: I have clearly cited census report PDF file which shows the right stats in religion ratio, still it is being changed with uncited wrong contentWikiboy2364 (talk) 20:08, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
FA nomination failed
Suggestions.
- Remove Localities section, it's simply destroying and playing no important role. Add Neighborhoods instead and include topics like "Shopping and shopping-centres", "City-based clubs", "Parks and recreation".
- It would be great if you convert those list (Cityscape) into paragraphs.
- Avoid putting too much images like you did in Transport section. Meanwhile try to use good quality images.
- Remove people from Lucknow, include them into education section.
- of historical places can be cover in Tourist section.
- "Lucknow Chikan" should exist in Economy.
- Eventually, refer, Hyderabad and Kolkata articles. It will give you more ideas. Thanks.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ☣ 10:37, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Needing additional references?
I see that User:SNUGGUMS tagged the article as needing additional references, but did not leave a message saying which sections need more references or which statements are under-sourced. Given that this article is currently nominated for GA status, I wonder if SNUGGUMS (or anyone else) could specify which sections or statements need additional sources. Thanks, – Quadell (talk) 11:27, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
- I will tag accordingly. Snuggums (talk / edits) 11:28, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
- Also, even once all content is sourced, this needs a WP:Peer review before it is ready for GAN. I guarantee it would not pass in its current state with so many malformatted references and image clutter. Snuggums (talk / edits) 12:17, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
Needs a Montage
I am seeing someone deleted the Lucknow montage image out of a deletion request. This has happened with Uttar Pradesh Heritage Arc page too. I don't know why all this is happening but I am requesting any and all members to create a collage for this page and put it up ASAP. Wikiboy2364 (talk) 15:54, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
possible vandalism -
"Awadh was placed under a chief commissioner – Sir Henry Lawrence. Wajid Ali Shah, the then Nawab, was imprisoned then exiled by the EIC to Calcutta.[28] In the subsequent Indian Rebellion of 1857, his 14-year-old son Birjis Qadra, whose mother was Begum Hazrat Mahal, was crowned ruler but later killed by Sir Henry Lawrence. " All of the individuals in this section ( Wadji Ali Shah, Birjis Qadra, Begum Hazrat Mahal) all have reported death dates well after the seige of Lucknow - could someone please check?
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Reviewer: Dharmadhyaksha (talk · contribs) 11:10, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
GA Review
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I will do minor corrections myself while reviewing the article. But on cursory glancing through, this one seems to need a lot of work before passing GA and chunks of trivial/travel-guide/yellow-pages like sections need to go away. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:10, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- After deletion of a long unsourced list from "Notable individuals", I don't understand why list of shopping malls and historical places should also be included. This is not yellow pages and historical places can be mentioned in prose in "History" section itself.
- Similarly with "Press", "Radio" and "Internet". Where will these yellow pages directories stop? Such media houses are obviously common in large cities. Unless some house originates from Lucknow, I see no reason to list down all this trivia.
DONE Wikiboy2364 (talk) 15:45, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- Not done. The trivial list still remains along with few unsourced stuff and external links.
- The section "Sister cities of Lucknow" has no prose in it and I frankly don't understand what a sister city is and without that the section is worthless.
DONE Wikiboy2364 (talk) 15:13, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
- Not done. The content doesn't establish why it exists there. Also, unsourced stuff exists in it.
- "Parks and recreation" section reads more like a tourist guide. Individual subheads under this should be removed and small condensed prose should be made.
DONE Wikiboy2364 (talk) 15:45, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- Partly done. Section is based on non-RS references.
- Lots of information in the infobox is unsourced.
- "Quality of life" is based on one non-notable survey and should also be deleted.
DONE Wikiboy2364 (talk) 15:45, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- Not done. The survey in itself should be notable to find mention here. Marketing agencies and electronic companies aren't really noteworthy of making such surveys.
- These sources are not really WP:RS: indiamapia.com, indiaonlinepages.com, lucknowonline.com, maharajas-express-india.com, citymayors.com, lucknow.me, laxys.com, lucknowcity.com, visitlucknow, importantindia.com, Newkerala.com, iloveindia.com, lucknow.org, indianfoodsguide.com, thealternative.in, lucknowlive12.blogspot.in, joshgroup.blogspot.in, lucknow-chikan-house.com, Career-info.in, Successcds.net, Cmseducation.org, thelearningpoint.net, oneindia.in, Filmapia.com, KanganaRanautInfo.blogspot.in, Televisionpost.com, Justdial.com, Buzzintown.com, Picnic-spots-parks-lucknow.blogspot.in, stylesatlife.com, formertourist.com
- Wikipedia itself is being used as ref in two cases, #78, #79. WP is not RS.
- References are not in uniform style. Many bare urls also.
DONE Wikiboy2364 (talk) 14:54, 22 March 2016 (UTC) Ref #107 and #108 are repetative.
DONE Wikiboy2364 (talk) 14:57, 22 March 2016 (UTC)- Madan Lal Verma 'Krant' Ref #102 is not considered RS.
Why is Category:Darul Uloom Nadwatul Ulama included on this page?
DONE Wikiboy2364 (talk) 15:13, 21 March 2016 (UTC)- The article, on various occassions, mixes up data related to Lucknow city, which is the subject here, with Lucknow district. For example, "Bounded on the east by the Barabanki District, on the west by Unnao District, on the south by Raebareli and in the north by Sitapur and Hardoi" is not right here. " Different varieties of mangoes, especially Dasheri, are grown in the Malihabad block of the district for export" should be mentioned in the Lucknow district article, and so on...
DONE Wikiboy2364 (talk) 15:45, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
With so many non-RS references in use, replacing them is going to be a big task and I will continue with the review after that. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 07:37, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
Reply * List of shopping malls and historical monuments in included because its an encyclopaedic article. Also, I've seen similar sections on a lot of GA's on Wikis of Indian as well as foreign cities.
- You may write the "encyclopedic" stuff in prose but not simply list random names.
- There are some newspapers that originated from Lucknow and some media houses headquartered there. All are mentioned. Some radio sections can be omitted, i agree on that.
- The Pioneer (newspaper) actually started in Allahabad and not Lucknow.
- Sister Cities are quite common on Indian articles. Just see Chennai and Coimbatore.
- But make no sense.
- Parks and recreation is a common section. Just see New York City. I can refer more but its in vain. Section just shows the characteristics of the park, Its not a tourist guide neither made like one.
- Infobox will be mended.
- 'Quality of Life' is a TOI survey. TOI is a pretty notable newspaper so Non-notable? i don't think so.
- Category:Darul Uloom Nadwatul Ulama will be removed.
- I agree with the district problem. I will look into it.
All other problems are those which i think are alright. I'll try to mend them all. Thank you. Wikiboy2364 (talk) 08:47, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
Please ping me when you resolve the non-RS references issue. Until that is done, which is a big problem, I see no value in listing down other problems and continuing with the review. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:40, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Query
@Dharmadhyaksha: Wikiboy2364 hasn't edited this review—or, indeed, on Wikipedia at all—since March 22. Under the circumstances, I think it's almost certainly time to close this review. Wikiboy2364 can always renominate the article should he return and finish addressing all the fundamental issues you raised above, even if they didn't constitute all of the issues you might have found. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:16, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Failing the GA nomination due to lack of improvement in the article. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:13, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
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Climate Data categorically incorrect
Average and record temperatures in climate chart are much lower than their actual values. Can someone find the correct data and update? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.158.64.164 (talk) 03:49, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2019
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Shashi Kant Rajbhar (talk) 05:20, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
Etymology लखनऊ प्राचीन कोसल राज्य का हिस्सा था। यह भगवान राम की विरासत थी जिसे उन्होंने अपने भाई लक्ष्मण को समर्पित कर दिया था।[6][7] अत: इसे लक्ष्मणावती, लक्ष्मणपुर या लखनपुर के नाम से जाना गया, जो बाद में बदल कर लखनऊ हो गया। यहां से अयोध्या भी मात्र ८० मील दूरी पर स्थित है। भारतीय पुरातत्व विभाग लखनऊ परिक्षेत्र की रिपोर्ट "लखनऊ की स्मारकीय धरोहर : एक झलक " के अनुसार इस शहर का नाम "लखना" जो कि "भर जाति" के सरदार थे के नाम पर रखा गया था। http://asilucknowcircle.nic.in/fancybox/index.html
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Please translate to English first. – Þjarkur (talk) 09:59, 29 April 2019 (UTC)


