Talk:Moi Renée
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A fact from Moi Renée appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 12 April 2026 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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Did you know nomination
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. You can locate your hook here. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SnowyRiver28 (talk) 10:47, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
- ... that Beyoncé credited Moi Renée as a songwriter on "Pure/Honey" twenty-five years after Renée's death?
- Source: "Who Was Moi Renée, the Late Drag Queen Sampled on Beyoncé's New Album?", Queerty, July 30, 2022.
- ALT1: ... that "Miss Honey" by Moi Renée and "Supermodel (You Better Work)" by RuPaul were grouped together in 1993 as tracks featuring "nasty 'bitch-talk'"? Source: "Flip Your Wig", Billboard, February 6, 1993, p. 26.
- ALT2: ... that Moi Renée performed "Miss Honey" on the Gay Cable Network in a green wig, white lipstick, and a black bodysuit, in what The Village Voice later called "a tiny piece of gay history"? Source: "Another Treasure from the YouTube Vaults: 'Miss Honey'!", The Village Voice, Michael Musto, February 6, 2008; "Who Was Moi Renée, the Late Drag Queen Sampled on Beyoncé's New Album?", Queerty, July 30, 2022.
- ALT3: ... that Moi Renée released "Miss Honey" in 1992, one of the earliest "bitch tracks", a house music subgenre with boastful vocals used for voguing at balls? Source: "Everything You Need to Know About 90s Drag Legend Moi Renee", i-D, April 16, 2021; "The Samples That Shaped Beyoncé's Renaissance", Essence, July 29, 2022.
- ALT4: ... that Moi Renée released "Miss Honey" as a 12-inch single in 1992, and thirty years later Beyoncé sampled it on Renaissance? Source: "Everything You Need to Know About 90s Drag Legend Moi Renee", i-D, April 16, 2021; "Who Was Moi Renée, the Late Drag Queen Sampled on Beyoncé's New Album?", Queerty, July 30, 2022.
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RosePickfair 🌹 (talk) 18:42, 1 March 2026 (UTC).
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Article is new enough and long enough. Hook facts are interesting, cited. Copyvio tool flags the fragment "Renée was found dead in a hotel room in 1997. Authorities ruled his death a suicide", which could be refactored. Be mindful of paraphrasing. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 18:53, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you, refactored per suggestion – RosePickfair 🌹 (talk) 21:15, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
- Better. Do keep paraphrasing in mind; we have to be sure to use our own words. Looks good to go now. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:28, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
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Show name: The Sybil Bruncheon Show vs. Stonewall Place After Dark
Multiple secondary sources (i-D, Queerty, Essence) identify the program where Renée performed "Miss Honey" as The Sybil Bruncheon Show. This name appears to trace back to a single 2008 Village Voice column by Michael Musto, who wrote that the clip appeared on "Sybill Bruncheon's old public access show". It seems that subsequent sources have copied Musto's phrasing without independent verification.
The name "The Sybil Bruncheon Show" does not appear in the Gay Cable Network wikiarticle or in NYU Fales Library's documentation of the network's programming.
The Gay Cable Network did air a late-night talk show called Stonewall Place After Dark, described as set in "an incredibly detailed replica of a New York City subway station" (Larry Closs, "I Want My Gay TV," in Gross and Woods, eds., The Columbia Reader on Lesbians and Gay Men in Media, Society, and Politics, p. 468). The 2024 documentary trailer for Miss Honey: The Catsuit shows Renée performing before a backdrop reading "Stonewall Place," consistent with that description.
This article uses Stonewall Place After Dark as the program name for that reason. – RosePickfair 🌹 (talk) 01:26, 7 March 2026 (UTC)
Pronouns for Renée in this article
I want to follow MOS:GENDERID in this article.
When I wrote it, I followed the model of a Village Voice article about Renée, written during Renée's life, and it used he/him pronouns (excerpted here):
"a loudmouthed Jamaican androgyne named Moi Renée is swinging his head to and fro, cocking his ass and twisting his hips with the grace of a Yoruban priestess possessed by an Orisha. He is wearing a body-fitted Emilio Pucci dress, black lace stockings held in place by garters, and Calvin Klein black suede pumps." (emphasis added)
Since creating the article, 2 sources, both of which use she/her pronouns, have been on my mind:
- The trailer for Miss Honey: The Catsuit in which designer Douglas Says, who knew Renée, uses she/her pronouns when referring to Renée: "She was really, really, really a character. She was fresh, young."
- The song "Curtains for You", a tribute to Renée, which includes the line, "To those of you who knew her, she'd always say, 'I'm Jamaican, y'know?'"
I want to follow the policy, and, more importantly, I want to do right by the article's subject. The Village Voice is a RS; a movie trailer and song lyrics are not. For all the digging I've done, I've never found Renée saying anything that answers this one way or the other.
What is the proper path here? (Note I previously posted this question here.)
– RosePickfair 🌹 (talk) 22:35, 15 April 2026 (UTC)




