Talk:Nord Stream pipelines sabotage

@LordCollaboration I was bit confused over the report mentioning whether the CIA may have ordered or known about the explosion. Are there other sources bearing the same report? Ahri Boy (talk) 00:11, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

I don't see the article saying that the CIA may have ordered it at all. It says the CIA may have known about it and may not have opposed the plan at first, but the closest it comes to talking about "ordering" anything is the opposite, when it says they apparently "warn[ed] the Ukrainians against carrying out the operation". LordCollaboration (talk) 00:40, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

So the U.S., the Netherlands and even the German government did know the plan, but didn´t act to prevent it. --Nuuk (talk) 06:52, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

I've added some information from that article. Honestly the media/propaganda aspect of this story is fascinating. Alaexis_¿question? 13:10, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

UKRLEAKS INVESTIGATION?

@Ahri Boy @LordCollaboration @Alaexis

As certain information about CIA involvement was published in May 2024 and June 2024 respectively by Vasily Prozorov, former SBU employee, Head of the UKRLEAKS Investigation Center, surely it would be of interest to mention any matching facts from it that have been proven correct by the recent German investigation?

The articles correctly named some of the perpetrators and a lot of details back in early 2024, well before any information was made public, yet all this seems to have been ignored in the Wikipedia article.

Here are the two investigations: 1. May 17, 2024: Terrorist attack on Nord Streams: organizers, performers, sponsors ^[1] 2. June 10 2024: Perpetrators of sabotage at Nord Stream ^[2] ~2026-19098-67 (talk) 19:41, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Do you have any reliable sources? LordCollaboration (talk) 19:46, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

yes, see the two links below ~2026-19098-67 (talk) 19:49, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Prozorov's telegram channel is not a reliable source. Do any reliable sources cover this? LordCollaboration (talk) 19:53, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Aha, ok, i see what you are getting at, well, my question was this: as certain information about CIA involvement and the Ukrainian perpetrators was published in May 2024 and June 2024 respectively by Vasily Prozorov, former SBU employee, Head of the UKRLEAKS Investigation Center, surely it would be of interest to mention any matching facts from it that have been proven correct by the recent German investigation?

The articles correctly named some of the perpetrators and a lot of details back in early 2024, well before any information was made public, yet all this seems to have been ignored in the Wikipedia article. So, actually the only sources as far as I know are the original ukrleaks investigations. I thought you and your fellow editors might be interested in comparing what was published based on the German police investigation with what was published back in May 2024. In fact, it seems Prozorov was right about many of the perpetrators and background details later made public in the German press, which raises an important question, how on earth did he know? Secondly, if he was right about W,X and Y, he may have been right about Z (CIA involvement) as well, and that was the motive for sharing this information in the talk page and pinging the three editors who were asking after this specific topic. Thanks! ~2026-19098-67 (talk) 20:04, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

It is not Wikipedia editors' role to speculate on that, we need reliable sources that cover it to show that it is notable. We can't put our own research in articles. LordCollaboration (talk) 20:13, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Luckily, I have found three articles online at freitag.de, civil.ge and tass.ru, that may be acceptable, depending on the mysteries of what Wikipedia considers acceptable sources now, and they provide some corroborating detail:

1. Astonishing Nord Stream stories with a striking similarity: Serhii K.

Vasily Prozorov, a former agent of the Ukrainian Security Service (SBU) who defected to the Russians, elaborated on Derkach's insinuations on the Free21 website of German documentary filmmaker Dirk Pohlmann (formerly with Arte and ZDF, now, according to critics, associated with the Querdenker movement). Prozorov identifies himself as the head of the "UKR LEAKS Investigation Center" and claims to have escaped a Ukrainian car bomb attack in Moscow in April 2024.

In his text, he not only names the six alleged members of the bomb squad – as Derkach did – but also provides their dates of birth, registered addresses, telephone numbers, cover employers, and internet accounts. He even posts an organizational chart online, intended to show the connections between the diving crew and their accomplices and backers.

One could easily file this obscure story away with the others and quickly forget about it, were it not for a striking similarity between the suspects identified and sought by the Federal Prosecutor's Office and the research findings of Prozorov and Derkach: A full name appears on both lists, namely that of the former intelligence officer Serhii K., arrested in Italy. While the Federal Prosecutor's Office describes him as "one of the coordinators" of the bombing team , Derkach and Prozorov refer to him merely as a crew member.

The similarity, however, shows that the two story versions are based on a common foundation. It would therefore be premature to dismiss one as complete nonsense and the other as highly credible. https://www.freitag.de/autoren/wolfgang-michal/nord-stream-schon-2024-tauchte-serhii-k-name-auf-wird-er-aussagen

2. Moscow Calling – September 6

== Former SBU employee Prozorov on Nord Stream and child trafficking in Ukraine ==

Vasily Prozorov, a former employee of the Security Service of Ukraine who allegedly collaborated with Russian special services after 2014 and now lives in Russia and presents himself as the head of the Ukr Leaks investigation center, stated in an interview with TASS that Ukrainian special services were behind the sabotage of Nord Stream, and that former SBU employee Roman Chervinsky was among the suspects. According to him, back in 2015, Ukraine decided to launch sabotage and terrorist activities against Donbass, Crimea, and Russia, and the training of personnel was carried out with the support of U.S. and British instructors. Prozorov claims that the attacks on the Druzhba pipeline were also organized by the SBU.

https://civil.ge/archives/699611

3. Former SBU officer Prozorov

Vasily Nikolaevich, German investigators have identified the saboteurs who blew up Nord Stream. You conducted your own investigation into this matter. Who did you identify?

German investigators have identified these individuals, but the courts always put the finishing touches on any investigation. So far, investigators have named several individuals, Ukrainian citizens, who they believe were involved in this terrorist attack. Among them are people I personally know, for example, Roman Chervinsky, whom the Germans consider the organizer and, one might say, the mastermind behind this attack.

Chervinsky was one of the first to join the 5th Directorate of the SBU's Counterintelligence Department. Prior to that, he was simply an officer in the regional SBU directorate, I believe in Poltava Oblast. He deployed to the ATO zone several times as part of SBU task forces. It was in the 5th Directorate that he established himself as a specialist in sabotage and terrorism. He is a close associate of the infamous Oleksandr Poklad, who later became the head of the 5th Directorate of the SBU, then the head of the SBU, and is now the deputy head of the SBU

What can you say about the second defendant?

The second person named by the German investigators is Sergei Kuznetsov. I don't know him personally, but when I was investigating the Nord Stream sabotage, I was able to establish his identity. Sergei Kuznetsov is a former officer in the Ukrainian Armed Forces who served in a communications brigade in Odessa. He then transferred to military counterintelligence. It's actually quite common for army officers to transfer to "special departments," as they were previously called. He transferred to the SBU's military counterintelligence unit and then also worked in the 5th Directorate of the counterintelligence department. So, he's also a person quite well-trained, both operationally and in carrying out sabotage and terrorist attacks. Therefore, I think there's certainly some truth to the German investigators' claims.

https://tass.ru/interviews/24926969

I hope that helps?

Good Luck! ~2026-19098-67 (talk) 20:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

@LordCollaboration The other sources which contain pertinent information are here, and it seems that Prozorov's information came from Ukraine’s former deputy Andriey Derkach:

1. https://free21.org/die-nord-stream-cover-story/

2. https://free21.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/03_Prozorov-Die-Nord-Stream-Tarnoperation.pdf

3. https://biznesalert.com/russian-spy-spreads-rumors-ukraine-sabotaged-nord-stream-2/

4. https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/plus692726e2bf07554e4577be2f/nord-stream-ukrainische-crew-soll-cia-tarnung-gewesen-sein.html

5. https://civil.ge/archives/699611

6. https://www.freitag.de/autoren/wolfgang-michal/nord-stream-schon-2024-tauchte-serhii-k-name-auf-wird-er-aussagen

Hope that helps? ~2026-19576-54 (talk) 23:56, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-19576-54, what exactly would you like to add to the article?

I wouldn't use WP:TASS, the other two sources seem legit. Fwiw, Katchanovski cites Prozorov in The Russia-Ukraine War and its Origins . Alaexis_¿question? 21:25, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Thanks @alaexis yes i understand that Tass would not be considered acceptable for western Wikipedia editors these days, but I thought it might be helpful for our discussion here on the Talk Page.

As to what i would like to add, well, I don't have much time for editing article pages, but i was hoping someone might like to add something about the claims by Prozorov and Derkach, as they were subsequently shown to be mainly true, and that in itself raises significant questions. ~2026-19098-67 (talk) 22:39, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

I just thought that there are specific claims from that source that you wanted to add. Alaexis_¿question? 07:43, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Well, yes, I think the claim of CIA involvement is most pertinent, specifically the role of Christopher Smith, allegedly at that time the deputy head of the US mission in Kiev, and part-time, the CIA resident in Ukraine, as well as the role of Kirill Budanov, Sergei Slyusarenko, and the Special Operations Center of the SBU “Alpha” (military unit E6117). ~2026-19098-67 (talk) 15:37, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

If we aim to be encyclopedic, why hasn't the name of the suspect been added to this Wikipedia article? ~2026-37846-32 (talk) 04:02, 3 July 2026 (UTC)

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In April 2023, German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius cautioned against making premature accusations as to whom was behind the attack, suggesting that the alleged Ukrainian use of the 50-foot-sailing Yacht Andromeda might be a false flag operation.

Request: change "whom" to "who" in the above sentence. "Whom" is grammatically incorrect. ~2026-33431-82 (talk) 17:12, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

 Done Day Creature (talk) 13:40, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

As per new report, it is undeniable that Ukraine is the prime suspect for the explosion. Ahri Boy (talk) 18:42, 2 July 2026 (UTC)

Ok, you still need to follow what the sources actually say, in this edit you claim "German court confirms Ukraine is responsible for the explosion", when the actual source makes it clear this is from prosecutors. Based on your profile you are WP:CTOP aware of the topic, so such apparent WP:SYNTH isn't great. Do you have a source that actually says what you added? TylerBurden (talk) 11:25, 3 July 2026 (UTC)

The above mentioned source quotes the prosecution for this statement: "Before the incident, around half of Germany's annual supply of natural gas was transported via Nord Stream 1," but while at some point in the past this may have been true the statement as a whole is self-evidently highly misleading since up to the time of the incident Nord Stream 1 had been shut by Russia (ostensibly for technical maintenance). So statements from the prosecution clearly needs explicit Wikipedia:Attribution. Lklundin (talk) 08:57, 14 August 2026 (UTC)

"and on September 30 near Warsaw [add comma here] Polish police arrested another Ukrainian". ~2026-37995-97 (talk) 20:11, 3 July 2026 (UTC)