Talk:Siege of Mandalore

Hey @Gonnym:, thanks so much for helping with this. I just had some specific questions and places for improvement that I was hoping for help with.

First, is there anywhere I should reach out to people to get help? I already did here, here, and here but if there's anywhere else I should post let me know.

The biggest point I was hoping for help on was the plot sections. I don't really know how to write them and what is or isn't worth mentioning. For now I've copied it directly off of the plot summaries on the list of episodes page but every episode article I've ever seen includes a much more detailed plot summary. Do you mind taking a stab at writing it?

There are a couple other things but let's start there. Ladtrack (talk) 18:28, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

You could also try at WP:WikiProject Television. I'm not good at plot, sorry. However, do take into account that because you merged quite a few episodes into one article, you are still limited by MOS:TVPLOT to the size of the plot. You might be able to increase it a bit, but not to the size of the number of episodes of the arc. Gonnym (talk) 08:24, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. I didn't realize about that restriction, I'll pay attention to that. If you don't mind, would you look over some of the other sections and help me get them to Wikipedia standard quality? I'm really sorry about this, I know I'm asking a lot from you but this is my first article and you're the only person who came in to help so I don't really know what else to do. Ladtrack (talk) 01:46, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

FYI I am watching this page and may help out at some point, but my focus is on some other articles at the moment. - adamstom97 (talk) 10:14, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

I noticed you were the one who initially removed the articles about the other episodes. I agree with that decision but I tried to source this thoroughly and I do think this passes WP:GNG, unlike those episodes. I understand that is going to be a concern especially with so few articles on animated Star Wars episodes but I feel that considering what it is it should qualify for an article. Whenever you get the chance please look through it and let me know what you think. Ladtrack (talk) 07:17, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

I agree that this one is actually on its way to being mainspace-worthy, unlike the previous episode articles for this show. - adamstom97 (talk) 11:31, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

@Ladtrack: see Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. series finale for an example of a multi-episode article with an infobox. - adamstom97 (talk) 22:17, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

I'll work on that and see if I can mock up an infobox. In the meantime, is there anything else you think needs attention? Aside from the infobox I am feeling pretty good about it at present but of course, I don't know what I don't know, so if there are major issues I wouldn't be aware of them. I want to get as good a draft as I can before I send it for review. Ladtrack (talk) 23:04, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

I think it is good enough to move to the mainspace and continue work there, it meets the standards we expect for an episode article to go live. I can make the move for you if you want. - adamstom97 (talk) 09:24, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

Hey, sorry to bother you again, but do you think you could upload an image to put into the infobox? I don't know the procedure, especially with free use issues. I was thinking something like this unless you have an idea for something better. Ladtrack (talk) 17:04, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

We generally shouldn't use screenshots from the show unless there is no other alternative and there is a good reason for why someone would need to see that image to understand what the article is talking about. A poster would be preferred. impawards has a few official posters from the final season, this one for episode 9 doesn't state the episode number on it so that could work best since we are covering multiple episodes in this article. I can upload it for the infobox. - adamstom97 (talk) 19:08, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

I have added it now. - adamstom97 (talk) 19:14, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Are you certain these are official? They're not particularly well-made and I couldn't find any source of Lucasfilm or any other Disney-related outlet releasing them. And while this isn't really proof, I don't think I ran across any of these posters except for the season seven poster even once while I was looking for sources for the article, either officially or in secondary sources about the episodes, which means if it is official then at the very least it's remarkably obscure. If there must be a poster I'd rather have this one. It's not technically on this arc specifically but at least it's undoubtedly official and actually in widespread use. Also, it looks good. Ladtrack (talk) 23:40, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

That poster is specifically for the final season as a whole and is tied to its announcement. These posters are specifically for these episodes so they are better, even if you personally don't think they are well made. I have not seen unofficial posters on impawards and these ones have Lucasfilm copyrights on them. They also look like the sort of episode posters that Disney has made for other series, which do tend to vary in quality. - adamstom97 (talk) 00:25, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

So I used Google Images, and after a few minutes of searching, I found it posted by the official Star Wars Twitter account. I think that's a better source than IMP Awards. Lililolol (talk) 02:53, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

I also found episodes 10 and 11 , which look better imo, and ep 12 the final one isn't from the official account, but it is from the show's official account, which appears to be verified as linked to the official Star Wars account. Lililolol (talk) 03:19, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Huh, I guess they are real then. If we must have one of these, is there any chance we can use the Phantom Apprentice one and just say it's from The Phantom Apprentice? At least in my opinion, it looks by far the best of the four in terms of composition and lighting, and there's no explosion effects with characters poorly placed in front, which is nice. Plus it's not actually any less representative than the other one, that one just so happens to not say "Old Friends Not Forgotten" on top. It doesn't actually meaningfully represent the other episodes any more than the other posters do, and anyone that has seen the arc will be able to tell immediately regardless of what we claim the poster to be. Ladtrack (talk) 05:23, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

I personally think it is better to use the poster that doesn't explicitly refer to any one of the episodes, but I'm happy for any of these episode posters to be used since they all apply to this article. - adamstom97 (talk) 07:49, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

@Lililolol I suppose that makes you the tiebreaker. What do you think, nine or ten? Ladtrack (talk) 16:04, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Ten definitely looks better Lililolol (talk) 17:26, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

I have made this change. - adamstom97 (talk) 17:41, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

GA review

Unsuccessful. Vestrian24Bio 13:39, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

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Nominator: Ladtrack (talk · contribs) 00:21, 4 January 2026 (UTC)

Reviewer: Vestrian24Bio (talk · contribs) 11:17, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi! I will be reviewing this article, expect the initial remarks soon! Vestrian24Bio 11:17, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

• Closing note: The nominator has gone off-wiki for over 3 weeks; so, I'm closing the review now. A full review is done below and feel free to re-nominate once all the concerns have been addressed. Vestrian24Bio 13:39, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

Comments

• EARWIG shows 38.7% - violation unlikely.
• According to link-dispenser (permalink),
  • 96 refs need archive urls.
  • 2 refs that might be down doesn't have archives.

Vestrian24Bio 11:26, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for reviewing the article! I wasn't expecting a review to start so quickly, so this was a pleasant surprise. I went through it and all the links should be archived now, please let me know if there are still any issues. Ladtrack (talk) 23:22, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

Yes, all archived now. Vestrian24Bio 08:27, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

• WP:DUPELINKs,
  • Ahsoka Tano in the Development and writing section.
  • Captain Rex in the Development and writing section.
  • Darth Maul in the Development and writing section.
  • Anakin Skywalker in the Development and writing section.
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi in the Development and writing section.
  • lightsaber in the Development and writing section (x2).
  • Sith in the Development and writing section.
  • Jedi in the Development and writing section.
  • Order 66 (Star Wars) in the Development and writing section.
  • clone trooper in the Development and writing section.
  • Galactic Republic in the Development and writing section.
  • Darth Vader in the Development and writing section.
  • Star Wars prequel trilogy in the Development and writing section.
  • Star Wars: The Clone Wars in the Casting section.
  • Ashley Eckstein in the Casting section.
  • Sam Witwer in the Casting section.
  • Star Wars Rebels in the Casting section (x2).
  • Star Wars Resistance in the Casting section.
  • Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith in the Casting section.
  • motion capture in the Casting section.
  • Ray Park in the Casting section.
  • Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace in the Casting section.
  • Dave Filoni in the Casting section.
  • The Mandalorian in the Casting section.
  • Lucasfilm in the Opening sequence section.
  • Kevin Kiner in the Music section.
  • clone trooper in the Promotion and release section.
  • Ahsoka Tano in the Promotion and release section.
  • Ashley Eckstein in the Promotion and release section.
  • Star Wars: The Clone Wars in the Critical reception section.
  • Star Wars in the Critical reception section.
  • Star Wars prequel trilogy in the Critical reception section.
  • Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith in the Critical reception section.
  • Kevin Kiner in the Critical reception section.
  • Clone Wars in the Critical reception section.
  • Syfy in the Critical reception section (last paragraph).

Vestrian24Bio 08:27, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

• In the Development and writing section,
  • Add a source for Filoni writing all the episodes of the arc (first sentence).
  • "at the San Diego Comic-Con" (second para).
  • Don't have to repeat "Sam Witwer, Maul's voice actor" in the 5th paragraph; just say "Witwer stated that [...]".
  • "To this end, Ray Park, Maul's physical actor" - is there a better way to open the sentence; it seems a bit confusing (6th para).
  • "Multiple versions of the way the morai landed [...]" --?
  • Spell out ILM in the first usage.
• In the Promotion and release section, don't have to mention 2020 four times in the second paragraph.
• In the Critical reception section,
  • "[...] one of the best story arcs in the series, if not the best - add relevant citations at the end of the sentence..
  • Star Wars should be italicized in all mentions.

@Ladtrack: that's all I got, ping me when done. Vestrian24Bio 08:27, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

@Ladtrack.. Vestrian24Bio 13:34, 6 February 2026 (UTC)

Final review

• All 3 images have proper copyright tags, but all of them are missing alt texts.
  • File:RayParkSpeakingFrontJun2011.jpg
  • File:Dave Filoni crop.jpg
  • File:Siege of Mandalore poster.jpg

Vestrian24Bio 08:29, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

• Plot summary word count:
  • "Old Friends Not Forgotten" - 96 words
  • "The Phantom Apprentice" - 195 words
  • "Shattered" - 152 words
  • "Victory and Death" - 103 words

  I'm not sure what the typical word count is, but all seems okay.

Vestrian24Bio 09:36, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

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GA review

Passed. Vestrian24Bio 11:44, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Siege of Mandalore/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Ladtrack (talk · contribs) 17:44, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

Reviewer: Vestrian24Bio (talk · contribs) 11:23, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

Previous comments

@Ladtrack: Hi! If you have any questions from the previous review, feel free to ask; then I'll re-check the article and finish the review. Vestrian24Bio 11:56, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. I implemented some of the changes you put in the previous GA review, but I wanted to ask about others. In order:

I fixed some of the duplicate links, and left others for now. WP:DUPELINK says that terms should be linked once per major section, so I removed duplicate links when there were multiple in the same section and left them if they were in different sections. Does that work? Ladtrack (talk) 17:06, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Okay. Vestrian24Bio 10:35, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Add a source for Filoni writing all the episodes of the arc (first sentence). I couldn't find a solid independent source for Filoni writing the episodes, unfortunately. I know he did, because of the credits, but I can't find a source that says that. Can I cite the episodes themselves? Ladtrack (talk) 17:06, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Okay, use the {{Cite episode}} template then. Vestrian24Bio 10:35, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Done. Ladtrack (talk) 18:19, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

"[...] one of the best story arcs in the series, if not the best - add relevant citations at the end of the sentence.. The first sentence is sort of a topic sentence, where you make a general statement and then elaborate upon that. I could cite the same sources that are in the rest of the paragraph, which do support that statement, but would it really be necessary? Ladtrack (talk) 17:06, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Okay, in that case. Vestrian24Bio 10:35, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Star Wars should be italicized in all mentions. I directly copied over formatting when I was quoting sources and used Wikipedia's normal formatting (like italicizing Star Wars) when it wasn't in quotes. Everywhere it isn't italicized, that's because the author didn't italicize it. Should I change it? Ladtrack (talk) 17:06, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Yup, should be italicized in all mentions within article. Vestrian24Bio 10:35, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Done. Ladtrack (talk) 18:19, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Source spot-check

• Initial check: pass. Vestrian24Bio 11:38, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
• Proper check: This table lists 27 random passages from throughout the article (25.5% of 106 total passages).

These passages contain 39 inline citations (25.3% of 154 in the article). Generated with the Veracity user script. Vestrian24Bio 09:28, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

More information Reference #, Letter ...

Reference #	Letter	Source	Archive	Status	Notes
Production
All four episodes that make up the story arc were written by Star Wars: The Clone Wars supervising director Dave Filoni.
6	a	"Old Friends Not Forgotten". Star Wars: The Clone Wars. Season 7. Episode 9. April 17, 2020. Disney…
7	a	"The Phantom Apprentice". Star Wars: The Clone Wars. Season 7. Episode 10. April 24, 2020. Disney+.
8	a	"Shattered". Star Wars: The Clone Wars. Season 7. Episode 11. May 1, 2020. Disney+.
9	a	"Victory and Death". Star Wars: The Clone Wars. Season 7. Episode 12. May 4, 2020. Disney+.
Included in the unreleased episodes were plans of a series finale involving Ahsoka Tano and Rex fighting Darth Maul during the events of Revenge of the Sith, which had been written, originally by Matt Michnovetz, at the time of the series' cancellation.
16		ign.com	web.archive.org
17		twitter.com	web.archive.org
The seventh season was made up of twelve episodes organized into three four-episode story arcs, all of which had been in development prior to the series' cancellation. The third arc, comprising the ninth, tenth, eleventh, and twelfth episodes of the seventh season, and the final four episodes of The Clone Wars, was the originally written series finale.
20		ign.com	web.archive.org
particularly for managing character knowledge of the secret identity of Palpatine, who does not physically appear in the arc but is manipulating its events.
25	b	etonline.com	web.archive.org
Although the 2003 miniseries Star Wars: Clone Wars is no longer canon to the franchise,
28		polygon.com	web.archive.org
He stated that as Ahsoka had gained experiences away from the Jedi Order, she had changed, while Anakin wished for things to return to how they were before.
33	a	nerdist.com	web.archive.org
Witwer stated that unlike most animation voice acting, in which he usually exaggerates due to not being able to act facially, he and other cast members were asked to do a more restrained "film read", which was an influence from Filoni's work on the live-action television series The Mandalorian.
35	b	youtube.com	web.archive.org
36		search.worldcat.org
Several events from Revenge of the Sith were referenced throughout the episode to help ground the arc within the film's timeline.
37		starwars.com	web.archive.org
Keith Kellogg, the animation supervisor for the episode, explained that many of Park's mannerisms were implemented in the animation for Maul, and that the motion capture data then had to be altered to match the animation style of the series.
42	a	looper.com	web.archive.org
Filoni described the problem of having to portray the event differently to its portrayal in Revenge of the Sith, as the audience of The Clone Wars saw the clone troopers as real characters. He stated that the key was "about understanding that they are in a situation where they don't have free will. [He] tried through every method possible, visually, musically, color-wise to show that they became somebody else".
33	c	nerdist.com	web.archive.org
Ahsoka would then escape on the back of a wolf, as a reference to the character San from Princess Mononoke, who was the inspiration for Ahsoka's original character design.
45	a	youtube.com	web.archive.org
46		starwars.com	web.archive.org
This idea was eventually discarded for being self-indulgent.
45	b	youtube.com	web.archive.org
The crew's experience utilizing previsualization on The Mandalorian, as well as technical advancements at Lucasfilm, particularly in its visual effects studio Industrial Light & Magic, allowed the use of the technology.
33	g	nerdist.com	web.archive.org
An unexpectedly high percentage of assets from the first six seasons of the series had to be remade due to being substantially lower-quality than new assets.
42	c	looper.com	web.archive.org
Multiple cast members had to rewatch previous episodes to be able to match their previous performances, due to the length of time that had elapsed since The Clone Wars was last filmed, and some had voiced older versions of their characters in the interim and had to readjust their voices to the younger versions.
50		search.worldcat.org
51		search.worldcat.org
Filoni also voiced a droid named Cheep in the arc, following his voicing of similar droid Chopper in Rebels.
33	h	nerdist.com	web.archive.org
In addition to the title card, John Williams's compositions for other Star Wars films are used much more frequently in this arc than in previous arcs in order to emphasize how special the arc was, in keeping with the series' philosophy of only using existing Star Wars music for "special moments".
58	a	tilt.goombastomp.com	web.archive.org
Parts of the score use elements of the score of Revenge of the Sith to indicate that a scene from the film, such as the opening scene of the battle over Coruscant, and a different scene from the series, such as the beginning of the titular siege of Mandalore, occur concurrently with each other in the franchise's chronology.
56	b	theringer.com	web.archive.org
59		denofgeek.com	web.archive.org
Promotion and release
Due to comments from the crew following the series' initial cancellation about story ideas that had at that time been discarded, it was widely expected upon the reveal of a final season that it would cover the siege of Mandalore.
65		Ratcliffe, Amy (August 13, 2018). "History of STAR WARS: What We Know About the Siege of Mandalore …	archive.nerdist.com
Critical reception
As a whole, the Siege of Mandalore arc was viewed as an excellent finale to Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and one of the best story arcs in the series, if not the best. IGN's Jesse Schedeen ranked it as not only the best arc or episode in the series, but the best animated Star Wars content ever, and wrote that it has "top-notch action, plenty of visual and auditory throwbacks to Episode III and a story that beautifully caps off Ahsoka, Maul and Rex's respective stories".
72		ign.com	web.archive.org
Writing for the Ringer, Ben Lindbergh said that "the four-part denouement [...] delivered some of the series' most cinematic and emotionally affecting moments".
56	c	theringer.com	web.archive.org
Writing for Deseret News, Herb Scribner praised the episode opener as "an epic sequence that uses John Williams' excellent score. The high-quality visuals are beautiful, a clear reminder of what battles in "Star Wars" films and TV shows can be".
78	b	deseret.com	web.archive.org
Syfy's Bryan Young felt that it was possibly one of the best episodes of the series, and that it is "heartfelt, it's moving, and it's beautifully lit and rendered".
80		syfy.com	web.archive.org
The use of Maul was also a point of praise, particularly in how his foresight contributed to the character's depth.
84		ign.com	web.archive.org
Kevin Johnson, writing for The A.V. Club, said that in the first half, "a sense of dread fills the episode, partly because of that incredible score, but partly because the specific rhythms of the first half "Shattered" resembles that of the opening minutes of a horror film".
92		avclub.com	web.archive.org
Some reviewers felt that the Order 66 sequence in the episode surpassed the depiction of the event in Revenge of the Sith because it humanized the clone troopers and treated them as equal victims of Order 66 rather than simply as perpetrators, including Dais Johnston of Inverse, who said that the episode positioned "the clones not as weapons turned against the Jedi but as individuals who felt as betrayed as the Jedi themselves".
95		inverse.com	web.archive.org
96		syfy.com	web.archive.org
The final scene was especially acclaimed for its use of color and silence to emphasize visual storytelling, and for the poignance of seeing the now fallen Anakin reflecting on his former Padawan.
98	c	ign.com	web.archive.org
100	c	denofgeek.com	web.archive.org
102	b	deseret.com	web.archive.org
106		inverse.com	web.archive.org

Close

@Ladtrack: all good. Vestrian24Bio 11:38, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Final review

• EARWIG shows 38.7% - violation unlikely. Vestrian24Bio 11:42, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
• According to link-dispenser (permalink) - all good. Vestrian24Bio 11:42, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
• Media usage:
  • File:Siege of Mandalore poster.jpg
  • File:Dave Filoni - Star Wars Weekends - Disney's Hollywood Studios - Walt Disney World (4684032594).jpg
  • File:RayParkSpeakingFrontJun2011.jpg

  All files have proper copyright tags, captions and alt texts. Vestrian24Bio 11:42, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

All else good, passing for GA. Vestrian24Bio 11:42, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

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