Talk:Siemens Vectouro

Simple. Since this article covers the original Railjet trains (which is mentioned in this article). I propose to merge the Siemens Viaggio Comfort article into this article. Tententenny (talk) 17:10, 18 February 2026 (UTC)

I concur Yuezhi Huang (talk) 03:32, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

The RJ1 (or Viaggio Comfort) is based upon old SGP-Bodywork

The ComfortJet (Vecturo) is apart from the cab car ideantical to the RJ1

The RJ2 (Viaggio Next Level) on the other hand: It is a almost a complete new construction method including Low Floor and High Floor parts. That doesn't fit the Viaggio Comfort Family which is High-Floor Only. DerKaiserschmarren (talk) 11:17, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

I put this onto a healthy merger discussuon because for some reason the Railjet 1 (the Viaggio Comfort) is included in this article even tho they are part of a different product range. Although both of those NMU's are highly identical to one another. I do know feel like there is an overlap, It did not help by the fact the article of Viaggio Next Level no longer exist and it instead redirects to this article. Although i open a healthy debate here if the merger would be approved or not. Tententenny (talk) 11:29, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

In the german article we actually, just seperated all into their individual Articles with only one short that is combined. Multiple people liked it this way, so probably it is a good Idea to take a look at it. It is Called "Railjet (Zuggattung)"

But I won't stop you from merging them. It just could be more work to seperate them again later on in the long run. ;) DerKaiserschmarren (talk) 11:41, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

Tbh the Railjet article in the English Wikipedia is very outdated by now ever since ÖBB announced they ordered Stadler KISS and the questionable order for Siemens Mireo EMU's and also route changes. I suggest the Railjet article should emphasize on the train service and not the rolling stock. The rolling stock that Railjet uses especially the Viaggio ones instead be put into here. Tententenny (talk) 11:46, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

Yep using the "Railjet" Article for the service instead of the rolling stock would be ideal.

It can then have links to the main Articles of each type.

• Railjet 1
• Railjet 2
• Railjet 3 (Class 4706)
• Railjet M (Class 4864)

(ComfortJet could be added)

Actually I did a big part of that rework in the German Wiki, so if needed I could probably help. DerKaiserschmarren (talk) 12:04, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

I do think merging is a good idea as Siemens stopped using the Viaggio names a year back and started referring them all as Vectouro in the advertising materials. As the Vectouro term getting more referred in the future it is natural to merge the two articles into one under the latest brand name.

These two generations of product are strongly connected as low-floor and high-floor is just an modular option for the latest Vectouro products (ČD Comfortjet contains only high-floor sections) thus no strong proof for separate them as two individual products. Yuezhi Huang (talk) 20:16, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Support Tententenny (talk) 08:47, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Per WP:FUTURE, "As the Vectouro term getting more referred in the future" is not relevant. It is all speculation. —Sladen (talk) 19:48, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

It’s not speculation, the Viaggio brand name doesn’t appear in marketing materials anymore. Yuezhi Huang (talk) 20:00, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Viaggio is the Siemens (marketing) named used on carriages Siemens has delivered, which is what Wikipedia is writing about on, based on existing WP:RS reliable sources. —Sladen (talk) 00:06, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

When the manufacturer cannot figure out what their product is called; the solution is usually WP:COMMONNAME—follow from the WP:RS, because that is probably what the readership are also going to search for and wish to read about. All the obscure (brand) names can then be relegated to some disambiguation/redirect page. i.e.: The solution here is probably sensible length articles about actually delivered orders, verses overly-long and confusing abominations attempting to cover everything. —Sladen (talk) 05:52, 2 June 2026 (UTC)