Talk:Sloth (deadly sin)
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animosity
In the Catholicism section, "animosity towards God" seems to be used in a positive sense, as in being a desirable attribute. "Animosity" means anger or enmity, which I do not believe a good Catholic would direct at God.
Is this a misquote or misunderstand?
Perhaps we need a verb here e.g. "show animosity towards God". HiTechHiTouch (talk) 20:50, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Dreamers?
"He that observeth the wind shall not sow; and he that regardeth the clouds shall not reap." Ecclesiastes 11:4
I don't think this is about "dreamers" as it is said in this article:
"The sluggard (lazy person) will share this fate with the talkative persons, with dreamers that ″watch the wind″ or ″regard the clouds″"
I think it's about people who are overly analytical, who worry too much.
46.239.240.219 (talk) 10:20, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
I agree. Notdede (talk) 02:08, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
For rapacious people cluster sound the slothful, and create A toxic broth to keep those that are lazy down. I witnessed this in 2018 Notdede (talk) 02:12, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
Depression
- On the History chanel there was a series on the seven deadly sins, listing Depression as sloth.
- Suicide is often considerd a sin in the Christion tradition.
--Gjeremy (talk) 17:15, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
- @Gjeremy yes i think in all tradition suicidal is a big sin, major sin, all the problem we had we must re take and recalculate also in our mind, so our mind can handle also our body and soul became much more reliable. read maleacchi also john, and quran.. our brother in god, moslem mean is peacefull QuaMbear (talk) 10:10, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Aquinas
St. Thomas Aquinas had a lot to say on this (his understanding of Acedia is very distant from our modern understanding of Sloth as Laziness), anyone knowledgeable enough to fill the gap?
Harvey Cox
The American theologian Harvey Cox wrote an essay, "On Not Leaving It To the Snake" on how the sin of Adam and Eve can be interpreted as sloth. Cox' argument is that in the myth of the Garden of Eden, Eve let the serpent talk her into eating the fruit, and Adam let Eve talk him into eating. Neither of them took repsonsibility for their moral choice, each of them passing the decision to another. In this interpretation, sloth is in some respects is worse than pride. Pride, at least, is an active sin. Sloth is passive -- letting the snake make the moral decision. Would something like this be worth adding to the article? Jhobson1 (talk) 15:00, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
NPOV
ok, this DEFINITELY has some pov issues. I mean, encyclopedia's are supposed to be objective, and you guys are all like 'video games aren't worthy of your time and are thus slothful' as an example. Well, someone else might think that video games are a worthy thing to do. Like, what about like....reviewing them, or something?
I dunno, I'm just saying this thing has some pov isssues and is not objectiiiiiiiiive. D:
'Catholic' and 'Christian' are not synonyms. 'Catholic' refers either to a church (organization and history) or cult (worship and practice). The religion is often called 'Christianity.' A reference to Seven deadly sins might be appropriate. This sin is often spelled accidia. Which is the more correct Latin? Might some further reading draw together some links to this entry? User:Wetman
What language?
The only translation I can get for:
"preguiça de ir buscar bolachas à pasta que está on the floor"
is Portuguese:
"laziness to go to search big cookies to the folder that is on the floor"
and this doesn't make much sense to me.
"preguiça de ir buscar bolachas à pasta que está on the floor"
=
"laziness to get the cookies from the bag that's on the floor"
Entropy?
Entropy has to do with the loss of usable energy; was this supposed to be atrophy, instead? (atrophy, to waste away from disuse) User:rubah —Preceding undated comment was added at 03:06, 6 February 2009 (UTC).
Entropy is the Greek word for "transform", and is understood today exclusively for its meaning in physics. I cannot think of how this can be related to the definition of sloth. 222.153.230.118 (talk) 03:36, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
This page is rather badly written
I'm rather new at this talk stuff but I feel the need to make a comment. This page is really poorly written. Aside from the Bible verses rendered in links it seems to assume the truthiness of Christianity. I don't want to hazzard an edit myself, being a noob, but I think it's worth looking at.Stellar Duck (talk) 00:54, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- WP:SOFIXIT. LobStoR (talk) 19:05, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed. The references to the Bible should be references made by notable persons who have linked them specifically to sloth. The references right now may seem rather randomly chosen, and have only a weak link to sloth. Narssarssuaq (talk) 14:41, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- Liable to assume the truth of Christianity given that it's discussing a topic in Christian theology. If you want to analyse socio-political ideas of sloth across multiple cultures, a somewhat broader page might be in order, with a link to this one. 62.196.17.197 (talk) 14:57, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Proposed merge with Sloth (mental state)
These appear to be the same concept. Suggesting a merge of the stub (now Sloth (mental state)) into the larger (Sloth (deadly sin)); perhaps a move afterwards to Sloth (mental state) would be OK. Closeapple (talk) 11:21, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
- Support. Who will perform the merger? Lbertolotti (talk) 15:57, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Done McLerristarr | Mclay1 14:07, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
Parable of the Wheat and the Tares
This painting and the parable it's based on have nothing to do with sloth. The workers (I like how "lazy peasants" is quoted, where did that come from?) are sleeping after sowing the field, and their enemy is sowing tares (vetch). Unless a suitable reference can be found I move this be removed. AnyyVen (talk) 00:22, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- Support, it seems unrelated. Ign christian (talk) 07:48, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
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sloth or pride ?
sorry for interrupt, the main characteristic is not sloth i think "Sloth ignores the seven gifts of grace given by the Holy Ghost (wisdom, understanding, counsel, knowledge, piety, fortitude, and fear of the Lord); such disregard slows spiritual progress towards life—to neglect manifold duties of charity towards the neighbour, and animosity towards God." but pride, you have a great pace luck and throne but you boasting for other's sin etc make you doesn't deserve and make you have 8 sin mouth ... or word ... just my opinion afaik QuaMbear (talk) 10:07, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Requested move 18 August 2025
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 02:41, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
Sloth (deadly sin) → Sloth (sin) – Pinging @Amakuru:
It seems unnecessary to retain the "deadly" part in the page disambiguator when "sin" would be unambiguous enough (see WP:TITLEDAB) -- element 20:47, 18 August 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 23:48, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose The defining trait of sloth is that is it one of the seven deadly sins, not just that it's a sin. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:10, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose (thanks for the ping) per Pppery and my rationale when reverting the bold move. This is not about any old sin called sloth, it's specifically about the deadly sin and even though we don't have an article about any other sin called sloth, it's still important to define what the scope is here. — Amakuru (talk) 22:12, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose The specificity is needed here. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:06, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Support. A deadly sin is a sin. There is no non-deadly sin that requires disambiguation from this topic, and there are no other topics on Wikipedia that use "deadly sin" as a disambiguator. — BarrelProof (talk) 00:11, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Support – No further disambiguation is required. The subject of the article is the sin itself, not its inclusion in a particular list of sins. Additionally, some Christian traditions that recognize sloth as a sin may not ascribe any special importance to the "seven deadly sins". Graham11 (talk) 20:10, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per reasons listed by User:Pppery and User:Amakuru above. Plus, if we just titled it "Sloth (sin)", it'd seem like we're the ones calling it a sin — but this page isn't about "the concept of sloth — and we, Wikipedians, are calling it a sin"; it's about "the concept of sloth — in the context of being considered one of the seven "deadly sins"." Paintspot Infez (talk) 21:35, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per the above comments. All deadly sins are sins, but not all sins are deadly sins. This is a specific category. Paprikaiser (talk) 22:01, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Paprikaiser: If all deadly sins are sins, then doesn't that make "sin" unambiguous enough? element 23:54, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per others. I initially thought along the same lines as the nom and BarrelProof but I've been persuaded by the opposers. Sometimes the best disambiguation is not the most concise possible version, but a slightly longer one that aligns with the common name for the type. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 02:25, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

