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On 21 October 1943, the Provisional Government of Free India was established as a government-in-exile in Singapore by Indians in exile headed by Subhash Chandra Bose. It was also called Azad Hind or Free India. |
Death is not proven
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~2025-37819-45 (talk) 20:49, 1 December 2025 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 21:02, 1 December 2025 (UTC)- Wrong information on death!!!! ~2026-61173-4 (talk) 17:20, 28 January 2026 (UTC)
Citation overkill in the first sentence
I know that this is one of the most contentious figures in a very contentious topic area, to say the least, and there have been previous discussions about the lede before. However, do we seriously need clusters of, in that order, three, four, seven and five footnotes in the first sentence as of now? I think through merging and, in the case of the anti-Semitism cluster, possibly moving some to the last sentence of the lede, we could achieve a cleaner-looking result while preserving the current sentence. As it is, the formatting leaves some inconsistencies as some notes are treated as references of their own while other are shown as separate footnotes [some with quotes, some without, though as I haven't read the sources I don't know which ones are direct quotes and which ones aren't] with their own reference inside, so setting a consistent style would be helpful as well. MSG17 (talk) 23:04, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
- I agree that reaching note aw in a list of a to z notes is kind of crazy. Yue🌙 (talk) 23:52, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
- Overall, I'd argue the whole lede needs to be rewritten. Some parts of that stand out:
Although peripheral to their main goals, the Germans inconclusively considered a land invasion of India throughout 1941
During this time, Bose became a father; his wife, or companion, Emilie Schenkl, gave birth to a baby girl.
Some Indians did not believe that the crash had occurred, expecting Bose to return to secure India's independence.
The British Raj, never seriously threatened by the INA, charged 300 INA officers with treason in the Indian National Army trials, but eventually backtracked in the face of opposition by the Congress, and a new mood in Britain for rapid decolonisation in India.
- Frankly, these parts of the lede should be cut as it does not have that close of relation to Bose himself and some parts (I.e. Bose becoming a father) shouldn't be repeated again in the lede. The whole lede is mired with a memorial-like tone and is way too long in length. SpyroeBM (talk) 08:23, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
Recent edits (January 2026)
An editor has been making edits that other editors have been reverting. So far, they have done three versions of these edits:
- 16:36, 11 January 2026 – 19:22, 16 January 2026
- 05:26 – 05:59, 17 January 2026
- 07:18 – 07:24, 17 January 2026
This shows how Version 1 differs from Versions 2 and 3 - the most important differences were that Version 1 had inappropriate capitalisation and bolding of words in the text. Versions 2 and 3 do not have those objectionable features. This was evidently in response to comments in the edit summary of the editor who reverted Version 1 – Capitalising and bolding the word "hero" in the middle of a sentence is inappropriate - English is not written like that.
This shows that Versions 2 and 3 are almost identical. The editor who reverted Version 1 wrote: The current text is supported by citations. Moving text around would make that not so.
In addition, all three versions contain new text that appears to be unsupported by citations. The editor who reverted Version 3 commented in their edit summary: None of these factoids have made it to the scholarly textbooks, the benchmarks of reliability and due weight.
-- Toddy1 (talk) 19:42, 17 January 2026 (UTC)
- He/she is now at Version 4, and has been warned for edit warring.-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:31, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
- Part of their unexplained edits in Version 3 was to change "... inaugurated a Statue of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose at ..." to "... inaugurated a Statue of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose at ...". The link in question is to the article called "Statue of Subhas Chandra Bose". He/she does have a point with that one - with wikilink is more obvious if it includes the word "statue". But "statue" is a common noun, and should not be capitalised in the middle of a sentence. There is no need to capitalise it in the link just because it is the start of an article name, because the Wikipedia software handles that. I think it is best to use the article name, rather than a piped name; WP:COMMONNAME applies. According to that article, the statue is also known as "Netaji's Statue"; it makes no claims for it being known as the "statue of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose". I have changed the wikilink to the article title, and fixed the capitalisation.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:39, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2026
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Remove 18 August 1945. His Death Is Not Proved Yet. It's Controversial Till Now. ~2026-48818-2 (talk) 04:37, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
Subject: Bias in "Success of the INA" section
The current phrasing—"The British Raj, never seriously threatened by the INA"—is non-neutral and ignores significant historical evidence. While the INA suffered a tactical military defeat in 1945, the strategic threat it posed to British rule is well-documented by primary sources. I propose modifying this to: "While the INA faced military defeat in the field, its subsequent influence on the loyalty of the British Indian Army and the 1946 Royal Indian Navy mutiny is cited by historians (such as R.C. Majumdar) and British officials (such as Clement Attlee) as a critical factor in the British decision to withdraw from India." Supporting Citations: Clement Attlee (1956): Interview with Justice P.B. Chakrabarty regarding the "minimal" influence of non-violence compared to the INA's impact on the military. General Claude Auchinleck (1946): Secret report stating that "the INA trials have created a situation in which the loyalty of Indian troops is no longer certain." The Transfer of Power 1942-47 (Vol VI): British Cabinet papers noting the "alarming" influence of the INA on the civilian population. Sayan Moi (talk) 13:11, 14 February 2026 (UTC)













