Talk:The The

I want to find chords to the song " bluer than midnight". thank u a lot. Tomas

If there is some controversy as to capitalization of the initial "the" in the middle of a sentence, would there not nevertheless at least be consistency in the article itself. That is, in the article itself, there is "the The" and "The The" (using {{not a typo}}) appearing seemingly at random. If there's an agreement, then it should be switched one way or another. But until then, shouldn't one way be favored and used consistently, rather than using both at the same time? --Petzl (talk) 22:11, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

fixed, as {{Not a typo|The The}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:29, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

It (clearly) should always be The The since that's the name of the band, but my edits got undone and there's no point in trying again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecwiebe (talk • contribs) 21:41, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

We have a policy specifically about this: WP:THEBAND. Mid-sentence, per the MoS main page, the word the should in general not be capitalized in continuous prose, e.g.: Wings featured Paul McCartney from the Beatles and Denny Laine from the Moody Blues.

So it should be "the The". Doesn't matter how other sources (including the band) write it. Popcornfud (talk) 14:35, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

This makes the article comically unreadable. Some bands have "The" as part of their title, some don't. Ignoring how the band wants to present their name is comically Wikipedian in nature. They are "The The". 86.21.27.218 (talk) 06:42, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm afraid this is comically part of Wikipedia's comical manual of style, so if you want to change that, you need to comically make the argument there, not on this comical page. Popcornfud (talk) 11:15, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

I don't think I am insane enough to make the point to the style committee. Reading this page is just plain weird. I keep wondering who are "The". This is a clearly different case to the Beatles. Thanks for a good laugh. 86.21.27.218 (talk) 12:49, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

I looked up "controversial subject". I was looking for a definition of a controversial subject and maybe a list of the most notable and influential ones. But I got redirected to this thing about a band or something! Can this be fixed? 161.8.243.222 (talk) 23:41, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Controversial Subject was actually a stand-alone article about the song until 2019 when it was redirected here (due to notability concerens). While I think List of controversial subjects is probably too broad for an encyclopedia, you may be interested in List of Wikipedia controversies for controversies specific to WP, or Wikipedia:List of controversial issues for controversial WP articles, or All pages with titles beginning with List of controversial for more specific controversies. I'm not sure that your experience warrants a Controversial subject (disambiguation) page, but perhaps a {{redirect}} hatnote on this article could be of use. Hoof Hearted (talk) 14:33, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Given the band's ultra-deconstructionist name, this seems rather important: is it correctly verbalized as "Thuh-THEE", or "Thuh-THUH"? Or perhaps even "THEE-thee" (or "THEE-thuh" ?)

Plus, we have the British-accent factor which also might complicate this question, no? (Been wondering about this for a long time; maybe someday I'll get around to actually sampling some of this band's tracks; I can't recall ever hearing them played on any USA FM station, much less an AM station.) [signed] FLORIDA BRYAN 2600:1700:B9B0:4500:B860:5013:4762:BC25 (talk) 17:04, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

@2600:1700:B9B0:4500:B860:5013:4762:BC25: I raised the syllable stress question in this dicussion, but never got a response. Hoof Hearted (talk) 15:25, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

@2600:1700:B9B0:4500:B860:5013:4762:BC25 There are several clips on the official The The You Tube channel off Matt Johnson pronouncing it Thuh-Thuh. 87.114.59.9 (talk) 06:37, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

I have always heard it pronounced as Thuh-Thuh. I'm not sure it's necessarily a London thing. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:13, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

This isn't important for Wikipedia at all unless it's mentioned in a reliable secondary source. Popcornfud (talk) 10:21, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Maybe, but any RS still lacking over there, I see. Looks a bit like WP:sky is blue? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:25, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

That's very silly. It's essentially saying "the name of this American band is pronounced as per American English", and it's trivial anyway — how many people reading will wonder or care? We're not in !!! territory here. Popcornfud (talk) 11:08, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

I had assumed that note was added for us dumb-ass Brits. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:09, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

I'm sure it was too, but why is it important? Are we sure people don't pronounce it Zed Zed Top in the UK, anyway? And if they do, do we have a reliable source saying they shouldn't? etc.

What about Monty Python, which is pronounced differently in US and UK English? Should that article have a note instructing readers that the "correct" pronunciation is the British one? (No.)

So, to get back to the The — are we really going to tell readers that it should be pronounced the Thuh and not the Thee, or vice versa? Popcornfud (talk) 11:26, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

"Right, now just stop that! This is getting far too silly!" Martinevans123 (talk) 12:45, 8 May 2025 (UTC)