User talk:Chris Howard
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Please feel free to leave me a message. (I don´t look in regularly, but will look at this page whenever I visit wikipedia) --Chris Howard 15:40, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
light tube/pipe disambig
After looking at the two articles that you linked, I think a disambig page would be advisable. They seem to be similar technologies that often use overlapping names, but they are still different. I would use light pipe as the disambig page and list Sulfur_lamp#Light_pipes as the first possibility and then light tube as the second possibility. Also, don't forget to add {{disambig}} to the botton of the light pipe page. =) I hope that helps. Have a great day and happy editing! ~ Amalas rawr =^_^= 16:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for your answer to my question. I´ve set up Light pipe as suggested, it looks OK to me. I´ll discuss improvements or a possible redesign below in the next section. Thanks for your quick reaction, and I wish you a great day, too! --Chris Howard 01:34, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- After further heavy work on light tube so it now includes not only light transport but also light distribution, the redirect is no longer needed (especially, as the "3M light pipe" is a product name for a light pipe as discussed in the light pipe redirect). It looks much better and coherent to me now, given that in most cases the same type of object (an optical fiber, and also a prism light guide) can be used for both aims. Thanks for your help and encouragement :-) --Chris Howard 11:33, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Light pipes
Good work on heliostats and light tubes. I wanted to check in with you about creating an article for light pipes (the 3M kind). While 3M developed it for the sulfur lamp, they are still marketing the technology for use with other kinds of lamps, so I don't want to tie light pipes to sulfur lamps only. I can create an article for it by copying the basic description from the sulfur lamp article, but I'm not sure what to name it. Any suggestions? Also, there are solid-core light pipes as well--I guess it's something like thick optical fibre. Are the names for these things standardized? SDC 18:06, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- When considering what to name it, three characteristics of the 3M kind of pipe come to my mind:
- the reflective material is plastic (a prismatic film). More generally, the reflective material is made of prisms, (see "prism light guide" in section "HISTORY" in http://ncr101.montana.edu/Light1994Conf/6_6_Kneipp/Kneipp%20text.htm).
- this seems to provide greater flexibility in shape (not necessarily a round tube)
- the aim is not (only) light transport, but distribution of light over the length of the tube (although these applications overlap, see http://ncr101.montana.edu/Light1994Conf/6_6_Kneipp/Kneipp%20text.htm); however, these aims/applications overlap (see section "APPLICATIONS" in http://ncr101.montana.edu/Light1994Conf/6_6_Kneipp/Kneipp%20text.htm).
- At this point, I have now slightly generalized the Light tube page (synonymously Light pipe) to light transport and also to distribution, and maybe Prism light guide could become the title of an article on the 3M technology and related issues (for "prism light guide", see also search results http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22prism+light+guide%22&btnG=Google+Search ), with a redirect from "Prismatic light guide" (the search http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22prismatic+light+guide%22&btnG=Search gives some but fewer results). As prism light guides are more general than the 3M technology, a mere "copy and paste" from the sulfur lamp article wouldn´t be quite enough. Also, I´ve briefly mentioned prism light guides on the light pipe page, see Light_tube#Prism light guide.
- Fiber optic light pipes (see Light_tube#Optical fiber) are mentioned on the light tube page; I´not sure about solid-core light pipes being thick optical fibers.
- Looking forward to your input on sulfur lamps, prism light guides or elsewhere... --Chris Howard 19:34, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- In it simplest form a light tube is simply a rod made of high quality glass, with polished ends. I was a bit surprised to see that no link was made to the fiberscope or optical fiber; it are variations of the same theme. JdH 15:43, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- That would indeed be surprising. The light tube article does have a link to optical fiber as it is indeed one of the types of light tubes (see Light_tube#Optical fiber). Sulfur lamp also has a link to optical fiber as a separate section, see Sulfur_lamp#Optical_fibers. Its "Light pipes" section actually discusses not light pipes in general, but more specifically prism light guides such as the 3M light pipe (product name), so it could benefit from a renaming and reworking.
- After further thought, I agree that a link to fiberscope, although is meant for imaging purposes (industrial endoscopy, see Optical_fiber#Other_uses_of_optical_fibers), is useful; I´m adding it to the light tube article. Thanks for pointing it out. --Chris Howard 07:15, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Categories´syntax
Hi, I noticed (and agree) you added "Solar design" to Solar chimney (perhaps after noticing the category on the Light tube page?). I don´t know the Wiki-synax of two parameters in the category-specification, which you used in your last edit: could you tell me what the addition of "|Solar chimney" has? I´d appreciate to learn, --Chris Howard 12:59, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
L-P SPAMs
It wasn't SPAM so much as the oft-cited "WWIN", specifically "not a catalog of external links" (Or whatever it's called), as well as the noxious tendency of a random list of companies to attract more of them, eventually leading to a section that has to be severely hacked down. If there's a definate reason for keeping them (Such as the comment I notice for the 1st one (The original mfgr.)) then I wont mind. In all honesty, that's far form the worst I've seen, but I hit up on that articel after dealing with some much worse SPAMs, so I was probably in a less lenient feel and so took them all out. 68.39.174.238 00:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
BTW...
This it's possible to cut down on the italicized text block? Maybe create a disambiguation page somewhere? 68.39.174.238 00:32, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- I´ve made light tube (disambiguation), thanks for the hint. --Chris Howard 10:57, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- Still thinking about how/whether to shorten/comment/explain the manufacturors (not: vendors, that would indeed be far too long). --Chris Howard 10:57, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- Nice work with the new page. I've tried to make the text block at the top smaller slightly. Anyway, was there a specific standard you used when you added various mfgrs. to the list? If it was something that could be codified, then you could explain the list that way and I think that would solve any complaints that could be brought against it (EG. "Manufacturers with over X amount of sales in the last year" where "X" was high enough to include only the most notable in the industry). A suggestion. 68.39.174.238 17:27, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the compliment and for your making it smaller yet. About the manufacturors: I really listed all I could find (the biggest difficulty was to distinguish manufacturors from mere vendors). I looked in English, German, French, and Dutch language sites, and these U.S. and German manufacturors seem to be the only ones. I may have overlooked some, of course. (I'm not sure I would go as far as to say: "The following manufacturors are the only manufacturors so far", because there's no point in running the risk of a factual error.)--Chris Howard 22:51, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- If they are manufacturers and there genuinely are that few then I have no problem with that. I was afraid it was a truly indiscriminate list (The way a list of vendors would be). I'd just note made a HTML comment along the lines of "Only well established and in-buissiness manufacturers should be included here" and maybe check every now and then to ensure some SPAMmer hasn't invaded the list. Thanx. 68.39.174.238 02:00, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
- In the meantime, all corporate links have indiscriminately been deleted by another user; I´ve decided to leave it at that, as I´ve recently seen other articles being indeed spammed, and even an edit-war resulting, and I would not want that to happen with this one. So, a visitor on the page will not learn about the manufacturers, but that´s not a real problem. --Chris Howard 18:50, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Re: Socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor
Good job on the rewording and other edits on this article. This was something I planned on doing myself, but you beat me to it. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 22:16, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, and thanks for adding back the "candidate for deletion" indicator. Hadn't meant to take that away.
- Actually I had inputted most all of the quotes to the article in the start (mid-October to mid-November 2008), saving it from its state of candidate-for-deletion at that time, and I had not appreciated the changes in formatting etc that the article had undergone since. So now was just the right time to put it right again...
- Thanks for your friendly message. (And I´m sure glad Erwin85Bot notigied me...! - but it´s good to know you´d have been there in any case.) Cheers! --Chris Howard (talk) 22:26, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
De Broglie Bohm
Thanks for the new papers you've cited. The first paper, though, strikes as more relevant to the entire article (after all there is no suggestion that Saunders and Brown have failed to understand the theory in the way described). I suggest you mention it somewhere else in the article. Not immediately sure where, though. -- cheers, Michael C. Price talk 21:14, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
- Well, putting it there where it was would relate it, loosely, to the question of whether particles in the Bohm picture could be seen as superfluous. Yet, giving it some thought, this statement fits quite seamlessly into the section "Hidden variable", giving much more insight at the right point in the article. Thanks for your constructive suggestion. --Chris Howard (talk) 21:37, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
- Interesting that Einstein had proposed a similar model. That might be worth mentioning somewhere as well. -- cheers, Michael C. Price talk 21:39, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Regarding your addition to the "Hidden variable" section, I have the same problem as earlier; the statement by Holland seems to be referring to the quantum potential, which is a core but elementary part of dBB. He's not saying anything relevant to the subject of back-reaction or the alleged unobservability of the particle(s). -- cheers, Michael C. Price talk 21:49, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
- I certainly also understand it as referring to the quantum potential (or active information), see also Basil Hiley#Quantum potential and active information in addition to the current redirect of "quantum potential" to the deBB article. The statement by Holland is that trajectories are "correlated not because the particles exert a direct force on one another [...] but because all are acted upon by an entity – mathematically described by the wavefunction or functions of it – that lies beyond them". It is precisely the quantum potential, as well as the wavefunction itself, which are more "hidden" in the sense of not-drectly-observable than the particle properties. This joins with "Conversely" added now): "Conversely, the particles [...] are anything but `hidden´ variables". This section deals precisely with what is called hidden, and why. I have clarified it slightly further now by making explicit reference to the quantum potential in the last sentence of that paragraph . Does that address your concern to satisfaction, or would you want to word the text or place the text differently?
- Also, yes maybe Einstein's withdrawn manuscript, referenced by Cushing, could be mentioned. Will give it some thought. --Chris Howard (talk) 22:34, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
- Concerning the topic of no back-reaction of particles on the quantum field in deBB, I found here a concise statement by Bohm and Hiley: "the Schrodinger equation for the quantum field does not have sources, nor does it have any other way by which the field could be directly affected by the condition of the particles [...] the quantum theory can be understood completely in terms of the assumption that the quantum field has no sources or other forms of dependence on the particles" (Bohm and Hiley, The undivided universe: an ontological interpretation of quantum theory, p. 24) --Chris Howard (talk) 03:52, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Nice quote by Bohm and Hiley. Yes, they seem to be referring to the lack of back reaction. -- cheers, Michael C. Price talk 06:30, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- I have now made a new article quantum potential, as concise as possible, as substitute to the earlier redirect to deBB (and using text from my own edits to the "Basil Hiley" article). I have linked to it from the deBB article, and have moved Holland's statement which was under discussion here, as well as a mention of Einstein's related proposal, to the history section of the deBB article. --Chris Howard (talk) 19:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- All sound and look like good moves. -- cheers, Michael C. Price talk 19:27, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Concerning the topic of no back-reaction of particles on the quantum field in deBB, I found here a concise statement by Bohm and Hiley: "the Schrodinger equation for the quantum field does not have sources, nor does it have any other way by which the field could be directly affected by the condition of the particles [...] the quantum theory can be understood completely in terms of the assumption that the quantum field has no sources or other forms of dependence on the particles" (Bohm and Hiley, The undivided universe: an ontological interpretation of quantum theory, p. 24) --Chris Howard (talk) 03:52, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Quantum discord
Just found this on NPP! Love it - very well done; so refreshing to be able to pass an article straight through with a big smile on my face :o) Pesky (talk …stalk!) 05:57, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks!! --Chris Howard (talk) 17:53, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
