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Hello. I see that you have added information to articles, which have not been considered a consensus on our recent discussions. If you want anything changed on Wikipedia [that is disputed] then you should not change it until its agreed upon. At last in our recent discussion you said you were going to find a third-party to resolve the issue. This has yet to happen and therefore you **SHOULD NOT** change the article. If you want the articles to be changed, you should first resolve the issue, and since we cannot on our own resolve it, you should find a third-party who's willing to intervene. Tinkaer1991 (talk) 09:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

The articles i changed isnt unsources and doesnt have anything to do with the other on-site discussion we had. Please don’t reverse my edits and call them unsourced but rather take it to my talk page. I’m gonna reverse your edits since you wrongly mix this up with the other discussion we had. Although feel free to find a third party.

Best of luck! GusGusBrus (talk) 10:28, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

This is all about the same thing; If a victory of Denmark-Norway can be called a Dano-Norwegian victory, without any mention of Norwegian participation.

Claiming any victory is Dano-Norwegian (which you have changed multiple articles to) without Norwegian/Dano-Norwegian is mentioned in the article and supporting sources, is what you have done, and also what we were discussing. To say this isn't the same issue if plainly wrong, and even if we consider it as such, then I would still fully disagree, and you would still need a third-party intervention to make such changes. Tinkaer1991 (talk) 11:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Furthermore it would also be a breech of the guidelines to reserve my edit, in that you have the burden of proof and you made the change. Thereby for Wikipedia rules your claim should not be added until we have come to a conclusion on the talk page. Tinkaer1991 (talk) 11:45, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for a quick answer.

Your claim that Norwegians need to be spesifically mentioned is not needed, as your sources on multiple of them such as https://danmarkshistorien.dk/vis/materiale/trankebar already mention the fleet consisting of both Danes and Norwegians along with Danish and Norwegian ships. It also describes the colony as "Dano-Norwegian" which would itself make it right to put the result as "Dano-Norwegian" since the result section in the infobox should show which combatant claimed victory, and possibly extra information if needed. Your claim that there wasnt any Norwegians involved is therefore a negative claim, since its different from the default that there would be both Danish and Norwegian intervention as they had a combined fleet. It is also a known fact that "Denmark" or "Danish" is often used to refer to both nations during this period as shown in https://web.archive.org/web/20060212020313/http://www.sa.dk/ra/brugearkivet/rasaml/foer1848/danskekanc/B0274.htm. Therefore you would need a source stating that for some reason the navy was split up and that there for some reason where only Danes (?) Which would differ from the default.

Hope to hear from you soon, GusGusBrus (talk) 12:41, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

No of the sources describing the engagements you have changed says they were “dano-norwegian” yet rather as Danish. And just because the colony was owned by Denmark-Norway doesnt mean we now should Call everything it possesed and did “dano-Norwegian” should we now also Call the Danish East India Company for the “Dano-Norwegian East India Company”? By No means. Because that Company is described in sourced as danish, just like the engagements. Again for the 10th time, we have already gone over this, and if you want it changed contact a third party. Tinkaer1991 (talk) 12:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Have you read what i just wrote? Denmark or "Danish" was often the way Denmark-Norway and its people was refered to as. Same way the wars against Sweden was mostly called "Dano-Swedish war". Either way the name of the trade company is irrelevant and i wont discuss that further. You have yet to really reply to what i sent in the message above your most recent message. GusGusBrus (talk) 12:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

This is My last reply to you without a third-party. Per Wikipedia articles you should write What your sources say, if the sources say Danish, even if they imply Norwegians, it should be described as Danish in the article and supporting infobox. That os how it is. Tinkaer1991 (talk) 13:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

And sources say that they had a combined fleet? Either way this would be irrelevant as Denmark-Norway is the combatant either way. GusGusBrus (talk) 13:02, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

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I see that in your Draft:Norwegian Empire, you added the norwegian antarctic territory as being part of a Norwegian empire. I have never seen the Queen Maud Land being described as part of a Norwegian empire. You should provide a source when adding controversial information. E4t5s.new (talk) 13:05, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

It is often described as a part of the "Modern Norwegian empire" (along with Svalbard, Jan Mayen and the Bouvet Island), the same way Denmark is with the Faroe Islands and Greenland for reference. The page is a Disambiguation page therefore does not use direct citing or a reference section.

Hope this helps! GusGusBrus (talk) 13:10, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

gusgus, when an editor has questioned the validity of a claim, it is up to the editor who contributed the claim, to prove it with a source, even in disambiguate pages, as per Wikipedia:BURDEN. Also, there is no actual “modern Norwegian empire”. It is also not in any way the same as the Danish Realm. The Danish realm is not even considered an empire. E4t5s.new (talk) 13:37, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

This isnt about what its scholary recognized as, its a page for what it might refer to. I have seen multiple videos and articles online which have refered to it as such. The article even clearly states that the term might refer to, not that its neccesarily a scholary factual term to use for said.

Hope this helps! GusGusBrus (talk) 13:41, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Show a source. E4t5s.new (talk) 13:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Read my last message. It clearly fits into a disambiguation article. GusGusBrus (talk) 13:52, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Can you not just send me the source claiming it to be an empire? E4t5s.new (talk) 10:58, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

I can give you examples of it being called such if thats what you are asking about when you say "source". If you are thinking about a scholary one i will say it again, it isnt required for such an article.

Hope this helps! GusGusBrus (talk) 16:14, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

DAB pages are not excluded from WP:Verifiability, it's just that the references are not supposed to be added on those pages, but to the target articles or on the talk page. See WP:Burden. DAB pages are referred to in footnote [d]. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 16:47, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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Hey! I have resubmitted now, could sadly not find back to the source i used for the island to later on get under the Almoravid dynasty. I have removed it and resubmitted.

Thanks! GusGusBrus (talk) 15:52, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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I only used reliable and scholarly sources? Which of them weren’t reliable? GusGusBrus (talk) 07:22, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

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What changes would you want in spesific? Sundberg's structuring is in a chronological order and is one of the very few and limited sources i have found going into detail about this war. Should i delete facts or scrap the chronology concept? Im confused on what to do. GusGusBrus (talk) 17:43, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Most important thing is to find more sources, otherwise there is no way to make it independent of Sundberg, or even to understand Sundberg's text.

• Bo Jonsson's Riksarkivet bio might be useful.
• Michael Nordberg's I kung Magnus tid (1995) is generally a good source about this period, if you can find it in a local library.
• The Finnish National Biography has an article about King Albert focused on his businesses in Finland, Albrekt Mecklenburgilainen. (This might not be too useful for this period)
• V.A. Nordman's "Albrecht, Herzog von Mecklenburg, König von Schweden" (1938) should have a lot of information, but can be difficult to find. (and is in German)
• I would expect books such as Nordstedts Sveriges historia : 1350-1600 say something about these events, but they might be covered with a brief remark.

Jähmefyysikko (talk) 19:02, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for everything, i will definitely try to improve! GusGusBrus (talk) 19:25, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Page moved away from mainspace, ill work on it from there. GusGusBrus (talk) 18:45, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

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im a volunteer response agent and i have the pages of the book Tinkaer1991 (talk) 20:59, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

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Are you able to show the source for your recent edit on Denmark-Norway? Tinkaer1991 (talk) 20:18, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

It should be linked in the citation. Hope this helps! GusGusBrus (talk) 20:18, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

It's not. The cite that is linked only shows the book at the Abtract. In order to read the book you need "Requires Authentication". Tinkaer1991 (talk) 20:20, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

I personally used used google scholar for the part which confirmed what i cited, you could probably find it there. Hope this helps! GusGusBrus (talk) 20:26, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

If you find it on an accesable online website, then the link you use in your source should reflect that. Tinkaer1991 (talk) 20:27, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Content from De Gruyter is accessible via Wikipedia Library, and even if it were not, that would not be a reason to remove the reference. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 01:27, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

At any rate, i found it on google books, and it does not support his point. Tinkaer1991 (talk) 08:57, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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Fixed, sorry for the inconvenience! GusGusBrus (talk) 12:19, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

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