User talk:Nareek
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Actors categorization
Nareek, thanks for your participation in the discussions regarding Actors categorization. You contributed in a significant way, especially for a relative Newbie to Wikipedia (if you don't mind my calling you that :) In answer to your request on Category talk:Actors, yes I will spell out there what I'm intending to do (but first I have to figure it out myself ;) - that was mostly meant to be facetious; I have a pretty good idea of what I intend to do. I will take a little time and give an example with an explanatory note, within the next 24 hours - right now I'm kinda mulitasking between Wikipedia and other things - I need to be able to concentrate on WP only to give a good answer. --Cheers, Lini 23:43, 29 January 2006 (UTC) Thanks, Lini. I've been impressed by how well Wikipedians work together--for an online community composed of thousands of strangers, it's remarkably harmonious. I appreciate the welcome. Nareek 05:18, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Bruno and Crowley
Hi Nareek,
Thank-you for your message! I've only started learning how this messaging system works -- you'll find a version of this note over on my discussion-page. I've known about Wikipedia for years, but this is the first time I've spent any time here. It's very cool!
Crowley IS daunting -- I've edited him! But you're right, Wikipedia is a marvelous experiment, and if you're inclined to improve on the Crowley articles, go for it, I know you'll do him justice!
Hey, I just added a link to the monad picture-caption on the John Dee article, and just discovered that the artwork at the end of that new link looks great when saved as a desktop-background.
Cheers,
Nice identifiers for Bruno and for Dee/Kelley, Nareek.
Whoever wrote the material about how each of the first three volumes of Ægypt pays homage to a book from the Renaissance is onto something. What I'm wondering is -- if Crowley has continued that pattern, then what Renaissance book does the title Endless Things refer to? I don't know.
Do You Believe in the Rapture?
Hi, where did you find out about the tentative Sonic Youth album title change? Everywhere i look "Do You Believe in the Rapture?" is listed as a song, not as an album title.--Amir E. Aharoni 17:39, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
I was working from the edit made before mine, which cited a CMJ interview for the release date--I assumed that was the source for the title as well. I sorta got the sense that that was posted by an insider, though--maybe it was the dreaded "original research." Nareek 18:49, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Red links
Re: Jack's Big Music Show - The two pages that drove me to this thinking are Build the web and Make only links relevant to the content. Neither of them mention red versus blue links specifically, but I believe it's more in the sprit of building the web to create the links for the relevant content, even if they end up red. I also believe that the red link is an enticement for someone to make a new article, or at least a new stub. adavidw 18:55, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Poe link
Hi. The problem wasn't specifically with the Poe link, but rather that Lordjazz (talk · contribs) had inserted a link to a couple of sites, identically formatted, to ~30 pages. I noticed one cropping up on Rudyard Kipling (I trimmed the external links there a while back, and every now and again someone tries to add a link to their own site), reverted it and had a look at his contributions. Each one added a link, but no content added, no attempt to tailor the descriptions or anything... it rang all the linkspam warning bells, in the five or so I looked at, so I used rollback on the lot.
Hope that explains things. Shimgray | talk | 21:43, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Poe's woes
Hi. Left a reply to you on the talk page for poe, but said I would explain a case where articles need semiprotection. If we were getting hit by multiple ip addresses, and in a very short frame of time, then the article could be semi or full-protected (no edits by anyone other than admins) in order for us to get a jump on reverting the vandalism and to hopefully shoo the vandals off. However, one or two an hour from unconnected people tends to be below the threshold needed for protection imo. I can list the page on vandalism in progress, but I am not sure that would get the article any more eyes than it currently has on it. :/
In any case, I'm not trying to be dismissive... I'm just trying to give you my honest opinion as an administrator. --Syrthiss 16:52, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Bagoas
You might be interested in the account of Bagoas' destruction of Orsines, here. Regards, Haiduc 17:48, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
- Hello there. I have to ask you for a source besides speculation that Bogoas was Alexander The Great's lover. I do personally believe so, but for the sake of verification. Firegirl223 16:10, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
- The sources are cited in the article: He's explicitly in a sexual relationship with Alexander in Curtius, while in Plutarch it's implied by the public display of affection. I don't think there's a great deal said about him by history outside of his relationship with Alexander; that's what he's remembered for. Nareek 16:51, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
- Hello there. I have to ask you for a source besides speculation that Bogoas was Alexander The Great's lover. I do personally believe so, but for the sake of verification. Firegirl223 16:10, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Grant Morrison
Hi, i found the decade breaks to be much better, when i first expanded that page months ago i tried the same as you did and found it quite cumbersome. Its far easier to leave it as it is (as Morrison has spent most of his career flitting between various companies) and let them expand (i still have loads to add in the 1980s for example) naturally.
The "wankathon" thing was a publicity stunt as well as a 'magical ritual', there's more information on it onThe Invisibles page which is more appropriate for expanding unpon it.
The All Star line is an odd one, it's easy to say it is DC's version of the Ultimate line but it is and it isn't at the same time. It's easier again to let any comparison of these lines remain on the relevant pages.
I find it easier to make it simple and keep it simple while trying to be as unspeculative as possible on Wiki. It makes things easier all round really. Incidently, i'm putting up a few Morrison related pages today (The New Adventures of Hitler and The Liberators so far) so if you can help fill any gaps feel free to jump in.Logan1138 13:19, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi again. I see what you're see with the headers being arbitrary but it makes the thing easier to edit for all and avoids situations such as the Alan Moore page from about a year or so ago which was virtually split into headers outlining everything he ever did in his career. Of course one way to do it is create sub-headers within the decades which keeps it fairly structured and easy to read.
The 'wankathon' thing was something a few of us were considering going into greater depth with on The Invisibles page. We can perhaps call it a sigil on Morrisons page but we should really leave the fuller explanation on The Invisibles page.
The All Star thing isnt a big deal but if it's purely speculation we should avoid it.
As said there's a load i've still to stick up, including Morrison's musical career, his plays and his other interests. As it stands the page is still a wee bit away from being featured article level, but give it a bit more work and it certainly could be. Logan1138 17:55, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I've been wracking my brain trying to work out how to put his non comics work into the article.I can't quite work out how to slip it in as his work outside of comics is barely touched upon. Basically the article is improving slowly and surely and it is turning slowly into one of the better comics articles on Wiki (a lot seem to turn into horrible examples of editors talking about 'canon' or speculating wildly) but yes, NPOV can be a pain in the arse at times but once you get your head round it then it helps greatly in improving articles.
We'll get there in time..... Logan1138 12:16, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Talk page signature
It was good of you to leave word that you had altered the lead of NSA warrantless surveillance. You did not sign your comment there. The lead is an important part of an article. There is a section in Talk for discussing changes to the lead before making them. There is a template on the talk page asking that substantial changes be discussed before they are made. Your not bothering with any of that makes me wonder if you dislike like the absence of the NPOV template on the article. Metarhyme 00:17, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry to forget the sig; it happens sometimes.
- I guess I interpret "substantial" as meaning "major" rather than "involving any matter of substance." I didn't think of any of the changes I made as being major, or having particular significance as to POV one way or the other. I'm sorry if I overstepped.
- I'm afraid I don't understand your last sentence. Nareek 00:57, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
- Attacked from left and right, the article has writhed beneath this POV label for much of its existence:
- I agree that the lead has needs, it's just that it has to be extremely neutral. I foresee bullshit blasts that will put what has gone before to shame. Rove is worried about impeachment, and was cracking the whip over the republicans in congress, but he's had time since then to consider his next ploy, which will find its way into the article. If the article is kept neutral it may not degenerate. I'd like you to do two things:
- delete the {{NPOV}} template I put on your talk page, because it doesn't belong here; and
- go to =>this linked article Talk space<= and, way down at the end of the section, comment on deleting paragraph two.
- A lead accepted by both impeachment advocates and neocons as neutral is the aim. No slanting. Hope to see you there. Metarhyme 10:09, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
- I agree that the lead has needs, it's just that it has to be extremely neutral. I foresee bullshit blasts that will put what has gone before to shame. Rove is worried about impeachment, and was cracking the whip over the republicans in congress, but he's had time since then to consider his next ploy, which will find its way into the article. If the article is kept neutral it may not degenerate. I'd like you to do two things:
Achilles
Thanks for the heads-up. It was only one (fairly minor) edit that got caught up in the vandal-fighting, but I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't drawn my attention to it. Thanks! —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 20:29, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Fair use
I have some acquaintance with fair use law, but I'm unfamiliar with the "no better image" aspect (per the Typhoid Mary debate). Can you fill me in what that's about?
- Wikipedia policy is that if a better image can be used, either one which is free of copyright or one for which a better fair use rationale exists, we are to use that. I hope that helps. Steve block talk 22:06, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Alphabetization of categories
Hi, Nareek. No, as far as I know, there isn't a Wikipedia policy that categories should be alphabetical, but I think it's a good guideline since it makes the categories section look less cluttered, helps people find the category they're looking for easier (especially on the pages that have tons of categories), and avoids in advance any conflicts over which categories should come before others due to importance. If you have a good reason to change the order, that might work out better. I tend to think categories sections are more practical and more neat when alphabetized, but you're certainly free to have another opinion. --Rocketgoat 20:17, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Soul article
Hi Nareek. You reverted out in the article on Soul two significant quotations by the great classical scholars, Erwin Rohde, from his classic work on Psyche (Soul), and Francis M. Cornford, from the article on Soul, citing NNPOV, without any discussion. I don't understand. These are highly respected scholars for decades and have important observations to make on the soul. It's not my point of view, they are direct quotations on their scholarly works about the soul. I will have to put them back in unless you can furnish some justification. There should be some discussion before such an action. These are literal quotes by famous and accepted scholars. Also, Cornford's passage is just quoting Pindar, one of the ancient sources. Also, your removal of the accepted point of view on Dr. MacDougall is unclear in motive. Please explain. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc 16:57, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
- Hi Nareek. Thanks for your kind and quick response. I had no idea what was going on ! I appreciate your taking the time to fix it and provide me with some re-assurance. Again, many thanks. I can understand how it could happen to any of us. Best Wishes. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc 17:11, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Nareek. Yes, WP is amazingly good about self-healing ! In this case it is my habit to discuss before reverting out changes such as the ones you made, except in really exceptional cases, to discuss it and find out if I blew it and what the motivation was ! Someone I know from the WP arbitration committee once gave me that tip which was a good one. I might add in a very strained situation at the time. Our WP community is very decent that way. Keeping things cool-headed. And what's life worth anyway without some enthusiasm or even occasional over-enthusiasm ? ;) Best Wishes. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc 17:45, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Ware Tetralogy
Sorry about that, it just seemed to me that the article was rather sloppily and unevenly done, and could use some revamping by someone that has read the series. -- Gizzakk 18:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I myself have not actually read any of the books, i was just going through the novels that have won the Phillip K. Dick memorial award and checking the ones that actually have articles and noticed that this one could use some help; if you feel like really revamping it/improving it, i would probably suggest changing the page itself to a summary of the whole series, with links to the individual books. WP:NOVEL has some usefull templates for starting book articles, and think about joining as well if it appeals to you. -- Gizzakk 18:30, 7 March 2006 (UTC)



