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It has been suggested that the opening of the Arctic Ocean to commercial traffic could result in exposure of humans to yet unknown pathogenic vectors.^[1]

at Arctic sea ice decline ... maybe better at Effects of global warming on human health ? X1\ (talk) 21:07, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

X1\, I think this is enough for a mention on either page, the cited source also mentions the related study. However, I don't think it belongs into the effects article. Possibly the Arctic decline page with more sourcing (since that's what has been challenged by Mc Connell). prokaryotes (talk) 22:46, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Prokaryotes! Do you remember where you have encountered the (original) quote from Einstein, mentioned on your user page about education as training the mind to think, not the learning of many facts. Thanks!--5.2.200.163 (talk) 14:15, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

See for instance https://www.quora.com/Did-Einstein-say-Education-is-not-the-learning-of-facts-but-the-training-of-minds-to-think prokaryotes (talk) 23:19, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

With the bull market in cryptocurrencies many of which are supported by online communities of people who are a) advocates and b) hold the currencies, WP's articles on cryptocurrencies have been beset by people adding badly sourced or unsourced promotional content.

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Please unblock me, I want to edit Wikipedia agian. prokaryotes (talk) 23:57, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

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Unblocked. Happy editing! I sincerely hope Wikipedia doesn't stress you out now that you are back, and look forward to your edits. Yamla (talk) 00:02, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

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By a strict measure, I think you're up to 6 reverts in 24 hours. Time for a break maybe? NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 13:47, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

I have no idea what you talking about. prokaryotes (talk) 13:50, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Please refresh your memory as to the definition of a WP:REVERT then review the last 24 hours in version history at Global warming. See also the tech rules at WP:3RR. I may have screwed up in some technical way, and this isn't a formal complaint. Just saying...... wikipedia is not an emergency and there's always tomorrow and next week. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 13:55, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Nope, no breach on my part, look again if you must. prokaryotes (talk) 13:59, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Please stop interacting with me. prokaryotes (talk) 14:03, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

@NewsAndEventsGuy: to make sure you get above notice. prokaryotes (talk) 14:04, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

I think you mean "Please don't post on my user talk page". To the extent procedure allows I will try to remember not to post to your user talk page though if some days pass I may need a reminder. However, in practical terms, interaction is inevitable if we both edit pages in the same subject area.NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 14:31, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

FYI, posting here as more than one article is being tweaked with this new paper.... the new paper does NOT say we are definitely on track for xyz as you wrote. It says we might be kicking off this series of feedbacks and those temps could be reached if we do that. As one of your secondary sources said... words to the effect of... we didn't make conclusions, we asked questions. I'm short on time for trying to make fixes. I think I saw this problem at runaway climate change or under climate state NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 21:06, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello, at cs, clarified more, from the BBC ref summary, "Researchers believe we could soon cross a threshold leading to boiling hot temperatures and towering seas in the centuries to come." prokaryotes (talk) 21:12, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

We soon could, and on path, very similar. prokaryotes (talk) 21:14, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

And on path, as in continued temperature rise, i still think this is correct wording, did not wrote definitely. And on path simply means we can leave that path too, room for interpretation. prokaryotes (talk) 21:24, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Actually they are not similar. One is definite, the other ambiguous. "On path" implies definitely. "could" is ambiguous. It might mean "we're definitely on a trajectory that we understand and we have to a choice - we could do either A or B. But Could might also mean "we're not sure, but the following scenario sure seems plausible". So which meaning of "could" is the one used in the RSs? I think the RSs answer this question quite simply - someone in the RSs told the reporter they didn't draw conclusions rather they asked questions. So no, they are not the same thing at all. Where there is room for interpretation in our writing, some clean up editor might tag it with Template:Clarify NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 22:13, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Btw. why are you posting again on my talk page, lol. It feels like you are my personal supervisor. prokaryotes (talk) 09:21, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

I suppose I could have picked on of the articles where you posted the same study and put a pointer at the talk pages for others. Sorry. If you want, I'd be happy to cut this thread for your talk page and put it at one of them. Please advise. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 11:24, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

The issue has been resolved to your liking, no? Just do nothing, but in the future use article talk space. Thanks. prokaryotes (talk) 11:27, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes thanks; sorry to bother you here. I was actually treating you how I like to be treated, incidentally. If I screw up in my read of a source, I'd rather a quiet word on my talk page than the article page. I'll try to remember that you feel differently. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 11:56, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Please don't Ping me in discussions where I already commented. You can safely assume I will see your comments in my watchlist, and the pings make extra busywork cleaning out the notification folder. Thanks. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 13:30, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Okay. prokaryotes (talk) 13:39, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Same here; the courtesy is welcome, but the articles are on my watchlist as well. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 13:40, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Helpful tip, since we often cross in the same talk theads, just FYI... you'll frequently see me say @Prokaryotes, as opposed to @Prokaryotes:. Sometimes I use a rootin tootin ping in brackets and other times, just to help people follow the threading in a multi editor discussion I'll call one ed's attention by typing out the at-symbol and their name in text. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 22:01, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes, you actually inspired me with this, subtle change noted. prokaryotes (talk) 22:04, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

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Hello,

Thanks for your tireless contributions to SRL/Global warming. I just came across a page I found useful in the distinction between primary and secondary sources in the scientific literature: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_primary_and_secondary_sources_for_biology_articles (tldr: scientific articles have parts that are primary and secondary and secondary source is preferable over first). It's for biology, but equally applicable in climate science. Might be good if we're all on the same page in terms of what a RS source should be :). Femkemilene (talk) 09:01, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Prokaryotes, just a quick note to say thank you for writing Marine ice sheet instability and, in case you don't see my edit summary there, to point you towards WP:Copying within Wikipedia. When you make use of text from other articles it's important to mention that in edit summaries for attribution. All the best, › Mortee _talk 10:28, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Mortee, do I have to do this also when I wrote the original text? prokaryotes (talk) 10:30, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Found it, "If the re-user is the sole contributor of the text at the other page, attribution is not necessary." prokaryotes (talk) 10:32, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

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I am newer to Wikipedia so I do not know if this is a proper place to discuss this, but you mentioned in your revert of my edit that the article I referenced made no mention of sea level change, however, it did mention it in the video posted on the same link, even though it was excluded in the writing part of it. It was not 'original research'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.47.8.174 (talk) 01:14, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia. I highly suggest you make a real editing account, makes things such tracking this reply much easier. Personally I think that original videos should qualify as a reference, but this is often a messy process. However, the video is not suggesting that the global sea level rose, it suggests that water was re-routed, which could eventually have flooded some regions for short or longer durations. However, if the recent impact theory holds, it would also mean, culminating in the Younger Dryas, which was a cooling period, and involving an initial stage dubbed, Meltwater pulse 1A. There is at least one article making this very clear connection to the YD theory, here, however, also not addressing SLR. If you find a article which elaborates on SLR, HC, and YD, please go ahead, but needs a good reliable source. prokaryotes (talk) 10:55, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

I saw GreenC back at it. Be aware he thrives in conflict and not so much in building this encyclopedia. My recommendation is that you go ahead and balance that article with other scientist POV, as you correctly propose, because you will NEVER reach an agreement with him on even on the color of the sky. Again, he thrives in conflict, not on cooperation. Cheers, Rowan Forest (talk) 18:36, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, also related, this. prokaryotes (talk) 19:19, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

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Hello @Prokaryotes:, I pinged you, because I saw you where also previously engaged in Cardano (cryptocurrency platform) talks: contribution. Thank you for your input so far. Do you think this article is ready enough to be submitted as an article for creation? Or do you have any suggestions? If so, please post your comments or just your approval on this talk page. Thank you, --FlippyFlink (talk) 10:37, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi there! I just wanted to add Climate emergency as a term (ie redirect) to Climate Change, and was about to do this when I noticed that a lot of your edits are really recent :/ . Thinking that was pretty unfortunate (seeing that my edit would blanket the content...), I thought I'd ping you here so we can talk about it in calm, rather than you be faced with me having already "destroyed" the page :P.

I've written up some of my rationale on the articles talk page (plus I've already copied the Pope's intervention to the Climate emergency declaration page. Perhaps the point on the NYC protests could be added there as well ? (kindof a different angle I guess.. :/ ). Regards ! Sean Heron (talk) 18:56, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

I have already restored the former redir to Global warming because Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_a_dictionary#Neologisms. If a ton of RS's about the phrase itself should turn up then an article about the phrase itself might pass muster. Otherwise, this would be a POVFORK of Global warming and Politics of global warming NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 19:09, 23 June 2019 (UTC) See also Climate crisis (which is a redir to global warming) NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 19:10, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Hmm, not on substance but on process - to recap: I see an issue, want to fix the issue, see a different user has been working on exactly the page I'll be blanking on exactly the same day, and decide to therefore first raise the issue with that user (and even point out why I'm raising it rather than just fixing it). Then someone else (in this case you NewsAndEventsGuy :P ) blankets the page. That's not exactly courteous - not to Prokaryotes nor to me :/ .

That bothered me just now so I wanted to point it out.

Oh, and btw - for both of you - I've suggested reinvigorating the "Taskforce Climate change" as a Wikiproject :). You two I know are both active on the topic, and are probably the next I'd have pinged (I've pinged Dmcq and FemkeMilene already - and opened a section at the taskforce talkpage). I guess if we want to move forwards with that, it'd be good to have some kind of way to work constructively (even better - happily!) with each other :D !

Regards, Sean Heron (talk) 20:45, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

My apologies Sean. Prokaryotes and I have a long and painful history. I was unaware of your work until after I'd taken action. I agree with Fremkemiline's comments about the task force...anything that will work is a good thing but one might have to try new things to find out what things those are. Go for it! NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 02:24, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Sean, thanks for the nice explainer, though the page should either be merged with Climate emergency declaration or be directed there. NewsAndEventsGuy, he is obsessed with the idea that many of my edits are NPOV violations XD prokaryotes (talk) 09:25, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments guys. I've read a couple of your exchanges and I can a), understand the sentiment of the both of you, b) reckon that you often both had a point / some truth on your side :/ . Anyhow see my Comment on the Talk:Climate emergency#Broader issue at handtalk page - reckon if we step back and discuss some fundamentals, that might help us working with each other :) ! I want to take up your suggestion and move the Wikiproject forwards NewsAndEventsGuy :) . Regards Sean Heron (talk) 13:34, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

P.S. Prokaryote - "obsessed" has a negative connotation in english - so if you use that word, that can be seen as a negative portrayal. (I'd be glad if we all make an effort to be more positive with one another moving forward - even when we're in disagreement :D !)

Hey, I can understand the frustration (I think), but I guess part of my hope with moving a Wikiproject "Climate Change" (or whatever) forwards was that it'd help finding commonalities, and sort out long standing issues and friction :/ . I'd be sad to see you go (and would miss your contributions and voice!), and would look forward to seeing whether working together in more of a team fashion mightn't help sooth feelings somewhat :( . Feel free to ping me or email, I'm happy to chat... Regards, Sean Heron (talk) 21:03, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Between travel, coding, and running into nuances of wiki rules I don't know well, I've been hard at work crafting a Tban or siteban request for Prokaryotes. The thread he filed against me has been archived in the meantime.

I just wanted to say that the passage of time and the archiving of the original thread should not be taken as meaning anything has been resolved. Prokaryotes has exercised his Right to leave, but not for purposes of escaping criticism. However, no administrators have indeffed him or given unblock instructions, so I don't know where that leaves us. Since there is no perma-block on his account, I am proceeding on the assumption he's still an active editor and will continue compiling my boomerang request, though I don't presently know how/when it will be submitted.

I just thought I should make a record of this so there is no misunderstanding or assumptions drawn from fact that time has gone by and the (latest) dramaboard filing was archived. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 18:41, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

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WP:MADEUP, I've checked the source that William Smith cited and there is no mention of "Oresas" on p 105 of any of the editions of Stobaeus' Eclogues, and this name is absent from the index of authors. Oresas is also not mentioned in any more recent collections of pythagorean writings such as Guthrie or Thesleff. This appears to have been the mistake or invention of a single classical scholar.

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