Talk:Archil II
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| On 20 February 2026, it was proposed that this article be moved from Archil of Imereti to Archil II. The result of the discussion was moved. |
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Archil II → Archil of Imereti – It’s incorrect to refer to Archil as “II.” Archil I of Iberia was a king of Iberia, and regnal numbering was continued by the kings of Georgia and later Kartli. However, Archil of Imereti ruled Imereti and Kakheti, and he was the only ruler with that name in both kingdom.
From 1675, Archil again moved to Imereti, where he reigned intermittently from 1678 to 1698. He was called Archil II in Georgian historiography until recently. In this regard, we expressed the opinion that since a king with such a name had never reigned in Imereti or Kakheti before, he should be called Archil I. Gergos10 (talk) 17:38, 25 March 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 19:12, 1 April 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 01:24, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose - His regnal name was II, regardless of his rule in Imereti or Kakheti. It is well-established and universal for Archil. Regards, An emperor ✖ 00:05, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
- Could you please provide a source? Several sources refer to Archil of Kakheti as “Archil II.” Gergos10 (talk) 10:48, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
- Gergos10, you supported the current title just one month ago. Of course, I'm happy to see those moves reverted. Srnec (talk) 23:43, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
