Talk:Jessie Catherine Couvreur
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Most of the text of this article looks like it's copied directly from the Serle reference. Is this OK? Sterry2607 (talk) 11:29, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Sterry2607 Your instinct was right - hopefully you've already found this board by now, but if you want an opinion as to whether or not an article which looks like it's been copied from it's sources is OK or not, feel free to ask at WP:CPN! GreenLipstickLesbian💌🧸 09:26, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
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Did you know nomination
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. You can locate your hook here. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by TarnishedPath (talk) 09:27, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
- ... that after her husband died, Jessie Catherine Couvreur (pictured) took up his position as a foreign correspondent – becoming one of just two senior women employed at The Times?
- Source: Clarke, Patricia (2022). "Jessie (Tasma) Couvreur: London Times Brussels correspondent". Bold Types: How Australia's First Women Journalists Blazed a Trail. Canberra: National Library of Australia. pp. 28–43. ISBN 9781922507372.
Her husband's death after a decade of marriage presented immediate financial problems but it also renewed her freedom to choose her own way of life and to grasp an opportunity to fill another unusual role. Jessie believed she was capable of undertaking the extremely demanding and prestigious position of foreign correspondent for The Times, which employed only one senior woman, its renowned Colonial Correspondent, Flora Shaw. In accounts of Jessie's life her appointment as Brussels correspondent is often dismissed in a sentence, but it was her most extraordinary achievement.
- ALT1: ... that Jessie Catherine Couvreur (pictured) became so famous for her public lectures about Australia that she was invited to a private meeting with the King of Belgium? Source: Clarke, Patricia (2001). "Tasma (Jessie Couvreur)". In Samuels, Selina (ed.). Australian Literature, 1788-1914. Dictionary of Literary Biography. Vol. 230. Detroit: Gale. pp. 365–380. ISBN 978-0-7876-4647-9. Gale TXILDQ334903669.
In Europe she made an extraordinary career as a lecturer on Australia, becoming so widely known that King Leopold of Belgium invited her to an interview at Laeken Palace.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1985 Tulane University basketball point-shaving scandal
- ALT1: ... that Jessie Catherine Couvreur (pictured) became so famous for her public lectures about Australia that she was invited to a private meeting with the King of Belgium? Source: Clarke, Patricia (2001). "Tasma (Jessie Couvreur)". In Samuels, Selina (ed.). Australian Literature, 1788-1914. Dictionary of Literary Biography. Vol. 230. Detroit: Gale. pp. 365–380. ISBN 978-0-7876-4647-9. Gale TXILDQ334903669.
MCE89 (talk) 13:52, 22 March 2026 (UTC).
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Overall: 
@MCE89: All very nice and it is an interesting biography. Both hooks are great, though I think ALT1 sounds a bit more interesting. However, before the final pass, please fix the licence tag of the picture that you used, there is a missing parameter or something {{PD-Art}} template without license parameter: please specify why the underlying work is public domain in both the source country and the United States A.Cython(talk) 00:43, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
GA review
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- This review is transcluded from Talk:Jessie Catherine Couvreur/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: MCE89 (talk · contribs) 13:47, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
Reviewer: Chao Garden (talk · contribs) 23:22, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
Hello @MCE89: I will be reviewing this article! I should be able to share a review this evening. — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 23:22, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hello @MCE89: please see my review below. The article is well-written and the sourcing is great; I just have a couple small things below. 2 MOS issues, 2 Prose concerns, and 1 source-spot check that is technically a little off. Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you! — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 06:36, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hello @MCE89, just checking in. What do you think of my feedback? Would you be able to make these changes? Thank you — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 01:34, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
- Very sorry for the delay @Chao Garden, and thank you so much for the review! I've made all of the suggested changes :) MCE89 (talk) 16:21, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
- No worries at all @MCE89! Your changes look great, and I'm happy to promote this article to GA! — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 16:26, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
- Very sorry for the delay @Chao Garden, and thank you so much for the review! I've made all of the suggested changes :) MCE89 (talk) 16:21, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
- Hello @MCE89, just checking in. What do you think of my feedback? Would you be able to make these changes? Thank you — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 01:34, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
Review
Criteria
(I'll update this after feedback is addressed) Updated below
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CopyVio
no issues detected, Earwig tool only shows quotes and titles (which is fine, of course). And when I did my source spot-check below, I didn't notice any copyvio or close paraphrasing issues.
MOS
Just two small things:
- With MOS:SPELLNUM, I think it's preferred to use numerals for numbers over nine (like "age of 18" etc)
- Done. --MCE
- Her infobox only lists one spouse. Fraser could be listed as well, using Template:Marriage (end=divorce).
- Good catch, added. --MCE
— Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 06:36, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
Prose
Article is well-written, and I only have two questions around clarity:
- The transition between these lines is a little confusing to me:
"She periodically returned to live with her parents, and in 1873 traveled to England with her mother. They then settled in Brussels, where Jessie provided an education to her younger siblings, before moving to Paris nineteen months later."
Mainly because at first I thought she moved to Brussels without her first husband. But didn't the entire family relocate? — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 06:36, 29 June 2026 (UTC)- I've had a go at rephrasing this to make it clearer, let me know what you think. --MCE
- This is more clear to me, thank you! — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 16:33, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
- This transition is also confusing to me:
"She published articles on a near-daily basis, largely on politics and world affairs.[20] Eventually her position was expanded to include covering the Netherlands."
The first sentence says she worked on "politics and world affairs" and then the second one says her position "expanded" to cover the Netherlands. But going from covering world news to Netherlands news sounds like a limiting scope of her role and coverage, technically? Let me know if that makes sense. — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 06:36, 29 June 2026 (UTC)- Definitely, that makes sense. I've rephrased this to "Belgian politics and the country's role in world affairs" which I think better reflects the source. --MCE
- Looks good to me! — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 16:33, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
Images
Two images are used in the article, and both of them are relevant and appropriately licensed with succinct captions.
- File:Madame_Couvreur_-_Tasma.jpg — Public domain
- File:Tasma_photographed_in_Turkish_costume.jpg — Public domain
Source spot-check
From this revision: Special:Diff/1353957062
This item needs clarification:
(2c) - technically the source says her father's business was the "largest" at one point, which is not the same as "most successful" (as written in this article). What do you think about revising the wording a bit?— Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 06:36, 29 June 2026 (UTC)- Fair point, tweaked this to
built a large merchant and warehousing business
. --MCE
- Fair point, tweaked this to
Confirmed fixed — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 16:33, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
These citations look good:
- from page 367 on archive.org: (2a) - confirmed parents info; (2b) - confirmed mother ran a boarding school;
- (4a) - confirmed first marriage to Fraser at 18; (4b) - confirmed Fraser started gambling; (4c) - went with her mom to England in 1873; (4d) - Fraser promised £100 per year but only sent £10 total; (4e) - married Auguste Couvreur; (4f) - published first novel in 1889; (4g) - wrote novels about cruel husbands, inspired by her marriage with Fraser; (4h) - died in Brussels; (4i) - cruel husband characters in her books; (4j) - confirmed Beilby quote
- (7a) - found out husband had another child; (7b) - developed friendships in Melbourne
- from page 372 on archive.org: (15a) - confirmed novella; (15b) - published a serial in Melboure; (15c) - married Auguste Couvreur on 7 August 1885
- from page 367 & page 372 on archive.org (16) - confirmed details about Victoria limiting how women could get divorces
- (17) - confirmed info about the divorce proceedings, including how rare it was for a woman at that time to be granted a divorce in Victoria
- from page 378 on archive.org: (21a) - diagnosed with anemia; (21b) - died of a heart attack
- from page 379 on archive.org: (25) - confirmed reprint of Uncle Piper of Piper's Hill in 1967
— Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 06:36, 29 June 2026 (UTC)