Talk:Occupied Palestinian territories

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. Numerically, the "supports" have it, but looking at the strength of arguments presented I am not convinced that there is consensus here in favor of the proposed move and scope change. I encourage participants to continue discussing the scope of this article and potential merges elsewhere on this talk page. (closed by non-admin page mover) Toadspike [Talk] 08:28, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

Occupied Palestinian territories → Israeli occupation of PalestineIsraeli occupation of Palestine – After the article about the State of Palestine was moved to Palestine, I believe that moving this article to Israeli occupation of Palestine would clarify its scope and reduce duplication. Moreover, it would be WP:CONSISTENT with articles such as Israeli occupation of Southern Lebanon, Israeli occupation of the Sinai Peninsula, Israeli occupation of the Golan Heights, Israeli occupation of the Gaza Strip, Israeli occupation of the West Bank, and the parent article Israeli-occupied territories. Hassan697 (talk) 19:35, 23 April 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 22:16, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

Per the article and many comments at the last requested move, it's the WP:COMMONNAME. Some sources from the last RM include the Red Cross, the Associated Press, Al Jazeera, PBS, the WHO. From the article itself:

Since 2012, when Palestine was admitted as one of its non-member observer state, the United Nations has been using the name "State of Palestine" to describe the political entity^[1][2][3][4] but continues to use Occupied Palestinian Territory to describe the physical territory.^[5][6][7] The European Union (EU) also uses the term Occupied Palestinian Territory.^[8][9]

Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 20:47, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

@Chess, I see your point that the current title reflects the common name for the article’s present scope, and I agree that "Occupied Palestinian territories" fits. However, my proposal is more than a simple renaming—it’s essentially a requested scope change, which I should have emphasized more clearly. The current article largely overlaps with Palestine, which now covers not only the political entity but also the country as a whole, including its territories. I suggest refocusing this article specifically on Israeli occupation, rather than on the territories as a geographic concept. Hassan697 (talk) 19:17, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

Would that not be redundant to Israeli occupation of the Gaza Strip and Israeli occupation of the West Bank? CMD (talk) 02:14, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

This entire article seems somewhat redundant, but Wikipedia is okay with articles that are Frankensteins of other articles so the propose move would not be redundant. Easternsahara (talk) 22:01, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

No, there is information specifically about the occupation of Palestine as a whole, not just the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. The article should not be very big, but it can cover overarching aspects, while detailed content remains in the articles about Israeli occupation of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. Hassan697 (talk) 13:42, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. Easternsahara (talk) 15:46, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Support- I support this move and the scope change because this article largely synonymous with the Palestine article. Easternsahara (talk) 22:03, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Support per nom and @Easternsahara 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 16:59, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Oppose The term "Occupied Palestinian territories" is far more common and used by many organizations and media. Dash9Z (talk) 06:08, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Oppose The occupied territories and the occupation itself are not synonymous. Charles Essie (talk) 15:22, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

We might need to revise the lede. It's important to investigate how other articles refer to and link to this article. We also have Israeli occupation of the West Bank Cinaroot (talk) 07:22, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Also Israeli occupation of the Gaza Strip Cinaroot (talk) 07:23, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Support per nom. AimanAbir18plus (talk) 12:16, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Support per nom Ahammed Saad (talk) 20:17, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

Split As I've said above, the occupied territories and the occupation itself are not synonymous so if you want article about the whole occupation of Palestine, it should be separate from this one. Charles Essie (talk) 20:32, 11 June 2025 (UTC)