Talk:Tiberias
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Whydid Herod change the spelling of the Latin name from "Tiberius" to "Tiberias"?Kuralyov 19:18, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
Removed the following section since it was cut & pasted from http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/1/1/3/3/11330/11330-h/11330-h.htm and not relevant to a geography article. Samw 04:15, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Singular Jewish custom
Burckhardt, in his "Travels through Syria," &c. informs us, that at Tiberias, one of the four holy cities of the Talmud, the Jews observe a singular custom in praying. While the rabbin recites the Psalms of David, or the prayers extracted from them, the congregation frequently imitate, by their voice or gestures, the meaning of some remarkable passages; for example, when the rabbin pronounces the words, "Praise the Lord with the sound of the trumpet," they imitate the sound of the trumpet through their closed fists. When "a horrible tempest" occurs, they puff and blow to represent a storm; or should he mention "the cries of the righteous in distress," they all set up a loud screaming; and it not unfrequently happens, that while some are still blowing the storm, others have already begun the cries of the righteous, thus forming a concert which it is difficult for any but a zealous Hebrew to hear with gravity.
Map
Can we please have a map for this article? Badagnani 22:40, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Ongoing war incidents
Regarding this recent entry:
- On July 15 2006, Tiberias was struck by Katyusha rockets fired by Hezbollah from southern Lebanon. A total of 12 people were injured. To create maximum damage, the rockets contained flesh-tearing ball bearings. Prior to the July 15 attack, Tiberias was thought to have been out of range of Katyushas launched from southern Lebanon. On July 17, Tiberias again was hit by Katyushas. On July 20, two rockets hit an area just outside Tiberias. On July 25, rockets were reported in Tiberias, landing in open areas of the city. No casualties were reported from either attack. Until the Hezbollah attacks, there had been no assaults on the town since the 1973 Yom Kippur War.
I'm not sure it is appropriate to list current events of the ongoing war in a general encyclopedia article. We don't do that for past wars. Such material quickly becomes dated, in particular as the war is on-going. The correct place for these kind of ongoing incidents would be 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict and its related articles. -- Stbalbach 13:19, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Recent Change
I just made a small change towards the end of the article, regarding the claim that a "sanhedrin" was reestablished in Tiberias. Basically, there is no evidence that this body would qualify as a real Sanhedrin and the matter has stirred significant controversy in Orthodox circles, including the refusal of the Haredi leadership to support this body. That is why the claim that "a Sanhedrin was officially reestablished in Tiberias" could be misleading and needed some editting. For more on this topic see Modern attempts to revive the Sanhedrin. Danezra 1:10, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Allentown - not 1996
In the late 70's and early 80's I used to be part of the UNIFIL, and our backoffice was in Allentown Ave in Tiberias. There is a playground there ("Allentown park") with a plaque that says in Hebrew and English that the park is named after the sister city in the US. So... I saw that plaque no later than 1982, it's impossible to say that allentown is sister to Tiberias since 1996. 99.232.203.75 (talk) 05:16, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Categories
According to a contributor, Tiberias was categorized an Arab village depopulated during the Arab-Israeli conflict. But this does not apply as Tiberias, according to all information posted was a Roman, then Jewish city - there is no mention of Arab depopulation, therefore category is not applicabl. Tiberias is not Safed, where there had benn a large resident population of Palestinians/Arabs. The category may be sanctionned, but it should be used only where depopulation is verified (as Safed), rather than carpetting every entry regarding an Israeli village, settlement or City.
Article bias
The main problem with this article at the moment is that the historical account is focused mostly on the Jewish history, but Tiberias was a mixed city for many centuries. Here are some random population figures, I can add full cites when they get into the article:
- 1596: 50 families and 4 bachelors, all Muslim. (Hütteroth p188)
- 1868: 400 Jewish households, 159 Muslim households, 66 Greek Orthodox households (McCarthy, p47)
- 1922: 4427 Jews, 2096 Muslims, 422 Christians, 5 others (census)
- 1931: 5381 Jews, 2645 Muslims, 565 Christians, 10 others (census)
- 1945 : 6000 Jews, 4540 Muslims, 760 Christians, 10 Others. (Village Statistics)
Zerotalk 12:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Add this under 'bias.'
'...On April 10, the Haganah launched a mortar barrage, killing some Arab residents.[46] The local National Committee refused the offer of the Arab Liberation Army to take over defense of the city, but a small contingent of outside irregulars moved in.[46] During April 10–17, the Haganah attacked the city and refused to negotiate a truce, while the British refused to intervene.[46] The Arab population (6,000 residents or 47.5% of the population) was evacuated under British military protection on 18 April 1948.[46][47] No order to expel the population had been given to the Jewish forces and the evacuation seems to have surprised them...'
Honestly. This echoes the old 'gee -- the Arabs just left' fantasy. Think it was maybe the mortar barrage? The Haganah assault? Something we said? OF COURSE the Arabs left. The Jews were trying to kill them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.78.57 (talk) 07:31, 15 February 2011 (UTC)