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Speedy deletion nomination of Victor E. Rillieux

Hello Aearthrise,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Victor E. Rillieux for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:17, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

A little Latin help

Hi @Aearthrise:, thanks so much for all your contributions!

I have created a personal user award to recognize contributions related to ancient Roman history, which I have dubbed "The Barnstar of Tacitus". Could you check my translation: "stella horreorum Taciti"? Thanks. Informata ob Iniquitatum (talk) 19:07, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

I can certainly help you; the phrase you wrote means the "Star of the granaries of Tacitus". Aearthrise (talk) 20:12, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

So how would I say it correctly? Informata ob Iniquitatum (talk) 20:36, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

I assume you want Classic Latin Pronunciation:

Aearthrise (talk) 21:30, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry, how do I write it correctly? The meaning I'm looking for is the "barnstar of Tacitus". Thanks Informata ob Iniquitatum (talk) 21:34, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

As a translation, there are different ways to say it: 1.stella granarii, stella horrei meaning "Barn star, Granary star, Storehouse star"; 2.stella horreorum, stella granariorum- "star of barns, star of granaries, star of store houses" work too- 1. singular and 2. is plural. Aearthrise (talk) 22:00, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. And how do I say "of Tacitus", "Barnstar of Tacitus"? Informata ob Iniquitatum (talk) 22:17, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Taciti, like how you wrote it, is the correct way of writing "of Tacitus". Aearthrise (talk) 22:43, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Another Latin queation

Salve,

Aiutum! I am struggling with the difference between evocare and devocare, evoco and devoco. I understand evoco to mean to summon, or lure. An evocatio was a ritual designed to "distract" a city's gods by a besieging army. But I find in Pliny's Natural Histories XXVIII ch.4, devocare is used for summoning Jupiter. Are the two interchangeable?

Evocatus is a veteran heeding the call to return to duty. So what would a devocatus be?

If you can help, awesome, don't feel obliged to respond if you can't :-) Informata ob Iniquitatum (talk) 04:47, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

@InformationvsInjustice: taking a quick glance at the prefixes of the words- evocare means calling out ex+ vocare, while devocare is calling down de+ vocare. Beyond that difference I would assume they have a similar or same meaning. As an evocatus is someone called out (i.e. called to return to duty), a devocatus would be someone called down to someone/something, and an advocatus(advocate) is called to someone/something. Aearthrise (talk) 22:35, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

@Aearthrise: Could the de in devocare be a negative prefix, like dethrone or denounce? Informata ob Iniquitatum (talk) 05:26, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

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I as Aearthrise on wiktionary was blocked by the admin SemperBlotto for "vandalism;" He rolled back two definitions I added for Sabir, sabir & respondir, Mediterranean Lingua Franca, and banned me for 3 days & also removing the ability to edit my talk page; He did not communicate with me at all, nor did he add verify senses on the definitions I added. I am proud to be a prolific contributor on wiktionary, and I don't vandalize.

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Latin translation

Hi there Aearthrise, I saw that you're proficient in Latin, and wonder if you might be willing to translate a few sentences? They're "Leontius hic jacit fidelis puer dulcisimus patri, pietissimus matri. Qui vixit annis septem et mensis tres et dies sex. Innocens funere raptus, beatus mente, felix et in pace recessit." It comes from a letter written by Robert Howard Hodgkin, and while Google Translate gives the gist of it, it would be nice to have a more accurate translation before incorporating it into the article. The full letter (i.e., the full excerpt of the letter that was published) is: "This morning I set my face against the lovely Cologne Primitives and kept rigidly to Roman and Frankish antiquities. Among other things I copied out some of the Frankish inscriptions on tombstones. One of the fifth century: [above inscription]. I suppose sorrow has been almost the same through all the ages." The letter was written some eight months after Hodgkin's twelve-year-old daughter died. Thanks, --Usernameunique (talk) 01:23, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

@Usernameunique: Hello Usernameunique! Yes, I can translate this: "Leontius lies here, a faithful boy, the sweetest to his father, the most pious to his mother. He lived seven years, three months, and six days. An innocent taken by death, blessed in mind, he departed happily in peace." Aearthrise (talk) 20:17, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

That's great, thanks very much! I've added the translation to the article. --Usernameunique (talk) 20:25, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

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Are you in

Hi @Aearthrise: Are you in, perchance? scope_creep^Talk 16:13, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Ping please, when your in. scope_creep^Talk 16:15, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

I am in! Aearthrise (talk) 21:43, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

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Why are you sending me this? I clearly attributed it earlier.

15:30, 11 November 2022‎ Aearthrise talk contribs‎ 52,414 bytes +1,466‎ →‎Hessians in the Pennsylvania Dutch Country: Copied text from Germans in the American Revolution 11/11/2022

15:03, 12 November 2022‎ Diannaa talk contribs‎ m 52,838 bytes −1‎ Attribution: text was copied from Germans in the American Revolution on November 11, 2022. Please see the history of that page for full attribution. (See WP:RIA for more information.)

I want you to apologize to me now for first not checking that earlier post and two posting this inflammatory message to my talk page. Aearthrise (talk) 19:38, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Sorry. — Diannaa (talk) 20:28, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

"Alabama Cajans"

Eh, cher — fellow Cajun Wikipedian here, nice to meet you. Thanks for all your good work on the Alabama Creole people page — but I do want to raise one important issue. The "Alabama Cajans/Cajuns" are no relation to either the Louisiana Cajuns or the French colonial settlers of Mobile. They are the descendants of a group of Choctaw Indians that evaded resettlement to Indian Territory in the 19th century. They were mislabeled as "Cajuns" (or "Cajans," a not-uncommon spelling for the Louisiana Cajuns at the time too) in the 1880s and the name stuck. They have long considered it a pejorative and have for decades called themselves the MOWA Band of Choctaw Indians. You can see background in the links below or in the ones linked at the MOWA Band article; the WPA Guide was just repeating some common misconceptions of the era. Given the lack of an actual connection, I think the Alabama Cajans section should be removed, but since it's almost entirely your work, I thought I'd give you a heads up. Flaggingwill (talk) 22:22, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

https://www.proquest.com/docview/211812798?pq-origsite=gscholar&fromopenview=true https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=ncvRcSlKmkYC&oi=fnd&pg=PA19&dq=%22mowa+band%22+%22cajan%22&ots=xCFV1HNHu5&sig=mWgv0OWETb3SiH2pzMxpOEtwOzc#v=onepage&q=%22mowa%20band%22%20%22cajan%22&f=false https://muse.jhu.edu/article/783008/summary https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=yUFuAAAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP2&dq=%22mowa+band%22+%22cajans%22&ots=8q2T0x6QSb&sig=bcq4NjkPrxO8MBUUfzMLR_clisI#v=onepage&q=%22mowa%20band%22%20%22cajans%22&f=false Flaggingwill (talk) 22:22, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Aearthrise. Thank you for your work on French Louisianians. User:SunDawn, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

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Alaskan Creole people moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Alaskan Creole people, is not suitable as written to remain published. While it appears to be notable, it needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. I did this rather than removing the uncited material in the article, which I felt would be more disruptive. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to ask on my talk page. When you have the required sourcing (and every assertion needs a source), and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Or feel free to ping me to take another look.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 12:15, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

All of the information in that article is from other articles in Wikipedia, so while you're putting that article into a draft, you should also move all the other articles that the information was copied from to draft space too as apparently they don't fit "veritability." Aearthrise (talk) 14:56, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Please peruse WP:OWN. Blanking the draft was not called for and looks like an act of lashing out at the perceived denigration of something you own. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:31, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

You accuse me of lashing out without any evidence; I won't tolerate your slander, and I want you to apologize to me now for your attack on my person. Aearthrise (talk) 15:43, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

I merely pointed out how your actions look. You decided to take it as slander. I have not attacked you. I still suggest you read WP:OWN. - UtherSRG (talk) 21:45, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

You, "UtherSRG", posted an inflammatory accusation on my talk page; you purported that the blanking of a page and adding a delete tag on the Alaskan Creole draft page was an action of "ownership." You then demanded that I read the page for ownership disputes, WP:OWN, yet you yourself, being an Admin, ignored the very lines within that read "Always avoid accusations, attacks, and speculations concerning the motivation of any editor."

Your supposed basis for your accusation was that I blanked the page and put a deletion tag. This a Wikipedia sanctioned action under the deletion rule WP:G7.

You escalated this encounter to a personal level attack by making baseless accusations based on your unwarranted speculation. This behavior is not becoming of someone who has been a Wikipedian for as long as you have, and especially not of an Administrator.

I want you to apologize to me now for your personal attacks and baseless accusation and I implore you to read the very rules that you purport to be upholding rather than slandering Wikipedia members. Aearthrise (talk) 21:59, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

I am sorry that you choose to take things so harshly. I merely looked to help you see how your actions were viewed. G7 is definitely a legitimate criteria for deletion. Without such state criteria, the request looked like lashing out in frustration. With the criteria, it appears less so. - UtherSRG (talk) 00:06, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Issues following drafting of Alaskan Creole people

I'm not really sure what you were trying to accomplish by pasting a massive informational template at the top of Promyshlenniki and Russian America, nor by previously moving them to draftspace, but it is disruptive and I have reverted it. Please see WP:POINT and be more careful about invoking templates that you are not familiar with. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 16:20, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you @Rosguill:, i'm looking to post the template for a content dispute on ths page. Aearthrise (talk) 16:27, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

I had the following encounter with the Wikipedia Administrator @Onel5969: on his talk page}:

More information discussion copied from Onel's talk page ...

discussion copied from Onel's talk page

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Onel, yesterday you posted on my page that you moved the article Alaskan Creole people to drafts, directly after two months of it being public on Wikipedia and already having a considerable amount of good sourced material; the following quote is your reasoning why you moved it to drafts:

"I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. I did this rather than removing the uncited material in the article, which I felt would be more disruptive."

I recommend next time rather than being uncommunicative and timid about the perceived "disruption" of an article, that you either communicate effectively on the talk page of the article, boldly remove the unsourced content, or simply place a "citation needed" tag. You can't expect an editor to know what is in your mind nor have knowledge of your concerns if you choose to remain silent.

I responded to your post yesterday, to which you still haven't replied back to me yet:

All of the information in that article is from other articles in Wikipedia, so while you're putting that article into a draft, you should also move all the other articles that the information was copied from to draft space too as apparently they don't fit "veritability."

XXXXX

In regards to the information of the Alaskan Creole people article, the majority of its composition came particularly from the two articles Russian America & Promyshlenniki, with bits of information interspersed from Starozhily, Ninilchik, Alaska, and Kodiak, Alaska; there may be other articles i'm missing, but I don't have access anymore to the history of the Alaskan Creole people article to verify this.

I had the Administrator UtherSRG delete the Alaskan Creole people draft; your quick decision to move the article to a draft state indicated that the information within wasn't worth keeping public. I have also moved the two primary articles that composed the article, Russian America & Promyshlenniki to drafts so that you can do your job better and ensure that the information within them is worthy of public view. Aearthrise (talk) 14:44, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

So, the fact that I communicated to you is a lack of communication. Interesting. And difficult to respond to something when you didn't bother to ping me on your talk page. In the future, please familiarize yourself with WP:VERIFY. You also need to take a good look at WP:OWN. I recommend that you familiarize yourself with WP policies and procedures. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:54, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Your lack of communication stems from you not communicating within the last two months of published content and attributing your inability to communicate effectively due to your timidity of your actions being perceived as "disruptive".

XXXXX

Explain to me now in detail why I would need to look at WP:OWN? What makes you say that I need to read the policy on ownership? I recommend you choose your words carefully in your response, and I look forward to hearing from you soon. Aearthrise (talk) 15:05, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Onel5969 reverted the page immediately thereafter with the line only with the word "nonsense".

You just reverted my answer on in this thread responding to your question "So, the fact that I communicated to you is a lack of communication." I also asked you in the same post for your reason why you demand that I read WP:OWN.

I ask you again to explain in detail now why I would need to look at WP:OWN. Are you making the accusation that I broke WP:OWN rules? If you are, then I will need to escalate this to a dispute and call attention of this to other Wikipedia administrators for arbitration.

Wikipedia administrators and their words hold weight, and deflection & unaccountability is unacceptable for Wikipedia administration. Aearthrise (talk) 15:32, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Onel5969 then reverted the page a second time with the line "unwanted comments from someone who is not interested in conversation, only arguing. Now go away and don't post on my talk page again." These are not the actions or words dignified of a Wikipedia administrator; they should understand that the actions and words made in their position is held in a higher regard than standard editors, and should not make accusations unless they have ample evidence.

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I want Onel5969 to explain now what he meant in his closing words because he implied I broke WP:OWN rules, and my reputation is at stake. Aearthrise (talk) 16:25, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

First of all, Onel5969 is not an admin. I'm not really sure why OWN would apply here, but WP:POINT does per your decision to take drastic action against other articles in response to their draftifying of Alaskan Creole people. Please refrain from invoking templates without reading their documentation (or at least just hitting preview before publishing the edit to make sure you're doing what you want to do! I've now had to revert you twice.); dispute resolution processes are not begun by placing requests for intervention on an article, they are begun with discussions on the article's talk page.

My guess as to why Onel drafted the original article was not due to an issue with the underlying verifiability of the content at the articles you pulled it from, but its suitability in establishing notability of the new subject. To establish that the subject "Alaskan Creole people" is notable, you need to provide sources that describe the subject directly, by name, in detail; sources about Promyshlenikii or other Russian groups are not sufficient. Now, looking at Google Scholar, plenty of usable sources exist, so you should have no trouble creating a suitable draft. If you like, I can restore the draftspace revision Draft:Alaskan Creole people so that you can continue work if you like. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 16:43, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

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I thank you for your kind words. Have a good weekend! Aearthrise (talk) 21:56, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion contested: Draft:Mario & Luigi

Hello Aearthrise. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Draft:Mario & Luigi, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Please provide a valid reason for speedy deletion based on the criteria for speedy deletion for take it to redirects for discussion.. Thank you. BangJan1999 00:34, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

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This whole post is nonsense: you seem to lack the ability to communicate effectively, as your only communications with me on the article Swiss Amish were reversions with no context other than you claiming the information to be "contradictory" to the articles content:

Here are your nonsense reversions with no context, and my reversion with context:

Reverting edit(s) by Aearthrise (talk) to rev. 1179717180 by Materialscientist: Reverting presumed good faith edit that both contradicts the article content and introduces an inappropriate graphic (RW 16.1)

Undid revision 1193449609 by Eric (talk) You claim that the statement "Amish come from Switzerland" is a contradiction, but this whole article has to do with Amish coming from Switzerland. Either you're blind or you don't comprehend the article

Reverting edit(s) by Aearthrise (talk) to rev. 1193449609 by Eric: 2nd rv of unhelpful edit (RW 16.1)

I detailed a full response detailing logic for the edit, which you should have responded with a proper response or argument against the edit. You failed to communicate entirely, and rather decided to post this useless drivel on my page.

Indeed, coming to my page to post this nonsense is just a bullying tactic from your part, to end the conversation through false authority which does not apply at all in this case. All of this instead of providing your detailed reasoning for reverting the edit.

I will not play your ego game, and further, I shall revert your unhelpful, nondescript reversion on Swiss Amish, and I expect you to communicate your reasoning on either the Edit Summary or on the the Talk:Swiss Amish page as you should have done from the beginning. Aearthrise (talk) 23:49, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

As is stated in the Swiss Amish article, the Amish came from what is now France and Germany as well as from Switzerland. Placing a Swiss flag in the article, with the caption "The Amish come from Switzerland", is incorrect and runs counter to Wikipedia's encyclopedic style. Eric ^talk 02:42, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

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