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Information icon Hello, I'm Kelapstick on the Run. Your recent edit to the page Kinross Gold appears to have added incorrect information, so I have removed it for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. One such example is the section "Tasiast Acquisition - One of the Largest Securities and Accounting Frauds in Canadian History" referenced to this which says nothing of the sort. If you continue this sort of blatant misrepresentation you will find yourself blocked from editing. kelapstick(on the run) 06:00, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

To follow on from the conversation at User talk:Kelapstick please have a read of WP:WEASEL, it will explain why phrases like "Kinross is on the verge of insolvency" are inappropriate unless supported by a reliable source. You might find out more about reliable sources at Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. Most of your references were from Kinross Gold itself, a primary source, which should be used with caution according to WP:WPNOTRS.Calistemon (talk) 06:06, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
After looking in further. Much of what you added is original research and syntheses. You are drawing your own conclusions based on corporate reporting and projected metal prices. --kelapstick(on the run) 08:17, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


My comments User: WSDavitt :

I respectfully submit the deletion of my edits was inappropriate. It would be preferable if you were selective with your edits or reword particular sections rather than removing everything. The following information was deleted:

  • Kinross Gold was sued in numerous jurisdictions in Canada and the Unitied States for fraud. Kinross Gold settled out of court. The share price decreased by 90% because of the controversy.
  • The fraud allegations relate to the acquisition of the Tasiast mine in Africa in 2010. Kinross paid $6 billion for the mine even though the technical reports reported the value was under $2 billion.

Kinross reported in its financial statements that Tasiast was worth over $6 billion. In 2012 Kinross Gold, recorded significant losses related to value of the Tasiast. The total losses related to Tasiast was over $4.6 billion as the reported value of Tasiast was reduced to under $2 billion.

  • Kinross Gold has incurred losses approximately $10 billion since 2010.

All of the information was referenced to the various annual reports and news releases. The current Wikipedia page is out of date and does not mention.

Kinross Gold is one of the largest gold mining companies in the world and so I believe it's appropriate to have a larger article.

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Kinross Gold

Your edits have again been reverted, you edits are drawing far too detailed for an encyclopedia (i.e. we don't go through a companies annual earnings, as a financial magazine would), and you are drawing your own conclusions based on primary sources (the Kinross website and quarterly reports) rather than writing based on secondary sources. Also, you appear to be writing in order to make Kinross look as bad as possible, which makes it look like you have some sort of conflict of interest. That isn't to say that we would not include mine closures, or declining resources/reserves, however it should not make up the majority of the article, and we only would include them if they were written about by an independent publication. Look at any other major company (not just mining) and see if those articles resemble how you are editing. You will find they do not. --kelapstick(bainuu) 01:25, 11 March 2016 (UTC)


My comments: User: WSDavitt

Again your deletion of financial information is inappropriate.

The standard Wikipedia page for corporations includes a section for reporting the net income of the company. Your edit resulted in replacing the 2015 net income with the net income from 2013.

Regarding the comment that I am trying to make the company "look as bad as possible", two things:

  • 1) you are welcome to add information that is more positive.
  • 2) The information I have added is fair as it reflects the recent history of the company. As I noted in my edits, there has been a general decline for gold companies because of a substantial decline in the gold price. Like other companies in the industry, Kinross Gold's financial position has suffered. In addition, Kinross Gold acquired the Tasiast gold mine in 2010 for over $6 billion and within a few years the mine had lost over $4 billion. In addition, Kinross Gold has lost approximately $10 billion since 2010. I referenced all of these fact to the various annual reports and news releases. Kinross Gold was sued for fraud in both Canada and the United States. They settled out of court and paid tens of millions of dollars.

You have deleted all of this information. I am concerned about the suppression of information by corporations. I suggest that it would be more helpful to send me a note regarding your concerns and only deleting in a more selective manner.

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A lot of what you added was personal analysis and opinion commentary about the Rubin Report and the trial and their fairness or lack thereof, based on original research interpretations of primary source documents like the Rubin Report itself. That's not appropriate content in a Wikipedia article regardless of what other improvements might still be needed, because it's not our role to be the originating publisher of claims that he got railroaded — we do not publish any claim about the Rubin Report that has not already been placed on the record by media coverage about the Rubin Report. We do not editorialize in our articles, or conduct our own "public service journalism" analyses of whether legal decisions or internal HR reports were right or wrong in ways that haven't already been analyzed by real media outlets independently of us — but that's a large part of what you were doing. Bearcat (talk) 00:18, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Kinross Gold

Regarding the section Fraud Allegations, Class Action Lawsuits and Settlements, where exactly in this linked source does it say something that supports "In 2012, class action lawsuits were launched in the U.S. and Canada alleging Kinross Gold overstated the value of its Tasiast mine in its financial statements and made other false statements"? --kelapstick(bainuu) 00:32, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

And in this linked source does it say "In 2015, the parties reached a settlement agreements which included a payment by Kinross of approximately $US 40 million"? --kelapstick(bainuu) 00:34, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
All of the subheadings you are adding to the sections related to the mines are not necessary, as the sections are not large enough to warrant them. They also make the Table of Contents much larger than they need to be. --kelapstick(bainuu) 00:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

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I see you are still not adding the required attribution, as required under the terms of the CC-by-SA license. Please have a look at this edit summary as an example of how it is done. Please leave a message on my talk page if you still don't understand what to do or why we have to do it. Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 22:09, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
@Diannaa: No, that's not correct. I am the original contributor and content provider of the Statutory authorization sections in both articles. Executive Order 13769 Executive Order 13780 WSDavitt (talk) 22:15, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
Okay sorry for the mistake then. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 22:17, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
@Diannaa: No worries! WSDavitt (talk) 22:18, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

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