Talk:Fritz the Cat (film)

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March 9, 2006Peer reviewReviewed
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Critical reception

This article has had a maintenance tag in the "Critical reception" section since November 2014. This section is probably inadequate based on the coverage in secondary sources of this film. @Paleface Jack: You're the one who added the "expansion" tag—do you know of specific omissions, or have specific reasons to believe the section is insufficient? I also note that there is no discussion of Themes, which is a large omission for a Featured film article. This article should be expanded accordingly. I think the Plot section also needs examination for being overly long. --Laser brain (talk) 14:02, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

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overly detailed?

That is one huge article for a 1970s cartoon. 90.249.136.231 (talk) 17:25, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

GA review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Fritz the Cat (film)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: RTSthestardust (talk · contribs) 05:24, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: Plifal (talk · contribs) 12:52, 12 July 2025 (UTC)


i'll take this. don't worry if it takes you a while to respond. expect some comments within a week.--Plifal (talk) 12:52, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

sorry i haven't gotten to this yet, i was hospitalised this last week, but i'll try to do it by this weekend at the latest.--Plifal (talk) 04:23, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

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GA review
(see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
    a (references):
    b (citations to reliable sources):
    c (OR):
    d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):
    b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

Overall:
Pass/Fail:

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plot

  • two NYPD pig officers arrive to crash the party > two police officers—depicted as pigs—call on the apartment "crash the party" sounds too casual, as i recall they don't plan on joining in
  • suggestion: Later, arriving at a Harlem bar, Fritz meets Duke the Crow at a pool table. > Afterwards, Fritz meets Duke the Crow at the pool table of a Harlem bar. just reads a bit clunkily.
  • remove quotes like "bug out" and "tell the people about the revolution.", as well as "F-104 fighter jets". per MOS:FILMPLOT: "avoid minutiae like dialogue, scene-by-scene breakdowns, individual jokes, and technical detail".
  • suggestion: Fritz’s libido. During sex, maybe establish the leap a bit more, or cut out the reference to potent cannabis and explain that he has sex with bertha (if i recall correctly).
  • Fritz takes refuge in an alley, where he's found by his older fox girlfriend, who insists on taking him to San Francisco. When their car runs out of gas in the desert, Fritz abandons her, later encountering Blue, a drug-addicted rabbit biker, and his horse girlfriend, Harriet. > Fritz takes refuge in an alley, where he's found by his older fox girlfriend. She insists on taking him to San Francisco, but when their car runs out of gas in the desert, Fritz abandons her. He later encounters Blue, a drug-addicted rabbit biker, and his horse girlfriend, Harriet.
  • "heavily bandaged." this feels like a weird detail to focus on.

voice cast

  • these references don't seem to be a reliable source. citations are only needed for uncredited roles, i.e. engles, bakshi, dean.

background

  • i'm not convinced all of this information is necessary. much of it would be better placed in the articles of bakshi or crumb themselves. ideally this should be at least half its current length, focusing only on crumb and bakshi's interactions with each other prior to pre-production.
  • much of the last two paragraphs would be better moved to the 'production' section.
  • de-link ralph bakshi, once in the lead, once in the body should be enough.
  • remove "meanwhile", contravenes encyclopaedic tone.
  • de-link manhattan, per MOS:OVERLINK.

production

  • what's the rationale for the way this section is ordered? it would work better if it followed a chronology i think, i.e. development > pre-production > production > post-production. i get that they had to secure funding and a distributor first but i'm finding the timeline a little difficult to follow. is the idea that the first two subsections are chronological and then the others detail the different aspects of production? this might be better signposted.
  • the entire paragraph beginning The film's opening sequence sets the satirical tone of the film... reads more like analysis than direction, and is probably classified incorrectly as a result.
  • Bakshi wanted the film to be the antithesis of any animated film produced by Walt Disney Productions. this is more or less a repetition of the first sentence of the section.
  • the writing sub-section seems to focus mostly on differences between the film and the source material, most of which is good, but i'd prefer more information about the writing of the screenplay itself, if it's available. this sub-section feels a bit disjointed.
  • holding Fritz; in the film, > holding Fritz. In the film,
  • his laterfilms > his later films.
  • re-created > recreated.
  • i would suggest merging the music section with the article on the soundtrack, since that article is a stub and doesn't seem particularly notable outside of its relation to the film.

references

citation numbers from this revision.

  • earwig reports 71% copyright violations. these mostly come from quotes, please cut the number of them down and rephrase them in your own words. apologies, but i must emphasise this point, the number of quotes is too high. there's also a disturbing level of similarity in the cinematography paragraph which seems to have been basically lifted from barrier's website.
  • link dispenser shows 41 links may have issues (including one website—michaelbarrier.com—that is dead and should be marked as such). many of these "problems" come from no archive link in google books, so i'm not overly-concerned about that. please check through and ensure the issues are resolved.
  • random source spot-check: sources 17, 28 appear to accurately reflect the content of the article.
  • source 4: is there no better source than youtube for the engles clip?
  • sources 14, 19, 32: no archive link?
  • source 22: i don't have access to cohen but can't tell where this information comes from through searching google books, could you please share the relevant passage?
  • source 80: not needed, since it's a primary source i wouldn't say its inclusion here is suitable. nor is it in the standardised source format you've been using.
  • sources 89, 90: amazon is not a reliable source.

image review

general comments

at this point i'm stopping i'm afraid. i'm sorry, but i'm quickfailing this article. it's really well done, but i think it requires some pretty hefty structural changes before it's ready for GA status. not that the work you've done isn't fantastic, it is! but what needs to be done is outside the scope of this review, especially for this film which is a topic of high importance in animation. i might've been harsh, but i've spent some time going through this and found a number of things that require improvement.

the small things are easily fixable, but i'm concerned at the number of quotes, the arrangement of certain sections (e.g. wouldn't 'rating' and 'home media' normally be subsections under a 'release' section per the manual of style?), merging of the 'music' sub-section with the article on the soundtrack, and editing of the 'background' section.

i stopped checking more attentively after the first subsection of production and everything thereafter is a broad comment that i noticed or a preliminary structural check on images and sources that would have continued as the review did. i could not even get to the 'rating' section. i did not do a proper source review either.

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