Talk:Giannis Antetokounmpo

Should the lead refer to him as Nigerian and Greek or just Greek? JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 17:49, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

• Just Greek per WP:ETHNICITY we only include their main nationality/nationalities in the lead. He might technically have Nigerian citizenship, but he has never actually lived there or played for their national team. He was born and raised in Greece and played for their national team. That's the only nationality that's relevant here. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 17:49, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
• Just Greek, with the same reasoning espoused by @JDDJS --FeldBum (talk) 18:56, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
• Just Greek. I agree with JDDJS's points, and, per WP:TERTIARY, it also helps to look at how other tertiary sources describe Giannis: Encyclopedia Britannica, for example, describes him simply as Greek in the lead.^[1] TeoTB (talk) 19:17, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
• Nigerian and Greek He is a dual-citizen (Olympics.com), and identifies also as a Nigerian (“I grew up in a Nigerian home,” Antetokounmpo said. “Obviously, I was born in Greece and went to school in Greece. But at the end of the day when I go home, there is no Greek culture. It’s straight-up Nigerian culture. It’s about discipline, it’s about respecting your elders, having morals.” ... But he also told The Undefeated that he is much more than just “The Greek Freak” by strongly stating he is also a proud African—Andscape)—Bagumba (talk) 20:42, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

  That's his ethnicity, which doesn't go in the lead. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 21:54, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

  No, he is a dual citizen too. —Bagumba (talk) 22:02, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

  Irrelevant. Citizenship ≠ Nationality. We do not automatically include citizenship in the lead. There are countless precedents for this. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 01:16, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

• Why not simply omit the nationality per WP:NATIONALITY: "Finally, in controversial or unclear cases, nationality is sometimes omitted."? I believe it is better to detail the nationality situation in the second paragraph ("Born and raised in Athens to Nigerian parents") and body of the article mentioning his later acquisition of Nigerian citizenship. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 06:20, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  He was actually stateless until 18, as Greece does not offer birthright citizenship. So it was also a "later acquisition" of Greek citizenship as well. —Bagumba (talk) 06:43, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  Omit mention of nationality in first sentence in that case. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 08:27, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles reflect current situations. Historical context is, of course, welcome, along with current status. -The Gnome (talk) 14:27, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

There is nothing "unclear" or "controversial" in Antetokounmpo's citizenship status, as far as sources are concerned. -The Gnome (talk) 14:27, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

This isn't at all a case where it's unclear or controversial though. While he was born stateless, he acquired Greek citizenship, born the and lived there his entire until he moved the USA for basketball, played for the Greek national team and is called the "Greek Freak". These are all objective facts. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 14:39, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

If you've had to call an RfC about it, it's probably controversial. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 21:48, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

• Greek. It's a clear, non-controversial notation. Antetokounmpo was born in Greece and has full Greek citizenship. The article should mention, in the early-life section, the ethnicity of his parents, as well as our subject's dual citizenship, in the personal-life section, as is routinely done in all similar articles. -The Gnome (talk) 14:27, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

• Both: Considering that Antetokounmpo has been a Greek citizen for a total of two years longer than he has been a Nigerian citizen (and has had both for over ten years now), and that he considers himself to be both equally, it doesn't make sense to consider him just a Greek national. MOS:NATIONALITY says that both can be listed in "cases of public or relevant dual citizenship". Antetokounmpo is publicly a dual citizen and there is obviously relevance here considering he wasn't a Greek citizen until he was an adult. Ladtrack (talk) 16:51, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

But you're ignoring the fact that he has never lived in Nigeria while he lived was born and raised in Greece and played for their national team. His ties to the two countries very clearly aren't equal. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 23:00, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Comment: I don't agree that they're ignoring it, just not giving as much weight to it as you do. There are a lot of factors here and not everyone is going to mention them in every reply. In particular, I note that MOS: NATIONALITY gives some consideration to subjects' self-identification, so there is definitely a case to be made for including "Nigerian". That said, I think that on balance, "Greek" is the most consistent with other examples in the MOS. Perey (talk) 01:07, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

If he'd been born in Nigeria, he'd rightfully be listed in his article as a "Nigerian-born Greek." He was born in Athens, Greece, per all sources, he has Greek citizenship, and he "identifies" as a Greek national (to the point of volunteering to play for the country's national team, as sources show). His parents' ethnicity should be included in the article, of course, and this would cover all pertinent info. -The Gnome (talk) 07:38, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

He has Nigerian citizenship as well, and considers himself a Nigerian national, as he's publicly stated. He was born in Greece but considering that that he's a dual citizen, he's only been a Greek citizen for a little longer, and his own self-identification, I think that's enough to warrant including Nigerian in the nationality. I do think it should be second since his Greek affinity is obviously a little stronger (so "is a Greek and Nigerian professional basketball player") but it should be there. Ladtrack (talk) 16:00, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

"A little longer"?! So what then is long enough? Where do we find a rule for appropriate duration? This is a yawning trap for future disagreements. We must stay clear of such soft, malleable criteria. -The Gnome (talk) 20:29, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

He's been a Greek citizen for two years longer. Two years, and he's been a citizen of both for eleven years. Two years is a little bit for a man that is 31 years old. This is an RFC at the Giannis Antetokounmpo page and not at MOS:BIO, so of course I'm going to be specific to Antetokounmpo's case and not try to make a broad rule. If you want a rule that applies to every page make your own RFC at the appropriate venue. Ladtrack (talk) 21:55, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Also, while I'm at it, there's nothing wrong with case-by-case decisions. WP:LOCALCONSENSUS exists for a reason, and Antetokounmpo's situation (stateless until 18, got Nigerian citizenship only two years after Greek citizenship, publicly identifies with both countries) would be unique enough to warrant one even if including both didn't comply with MOS:NATIONALITY, which it does as I've already explained in my first response. Ladtrack (talk) 22:00, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

@Ladtrack Have you read WP:LOCALCONSENSUS? It explicitly says that it cannot be used to override sitewide policies and guidelines. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 17:10, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

It says that local consensus can be used to "arrive at an agreement about how to best apply sitewide policies and guidelines to a given Wikipedia article." The relevant guideline is MOS:NATIONALITY, and I have given a (plausible, I think) opinion of how to best apply it here. We aren't overriding a guideline, just determining how to interpret it in this circumstance. The result doesn't have to become an overarching rule, it can be applied one way to one article and differently to another article if the circumstances are different. A local consensus, if you will. Ladtrack (talk) 18:44, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

You said "WP:LOCALCONSENSUS exists for a reason, and Antetokounmpo's situation (stateless until 18, got Nigerian citizenship only two years after Greek citizenship, publicly identifies with both countries) would be unique enough to warrant one even if including both didn't comply with MOS:NATIONALITY," You were extremely clearly saying that that it could override a guideline. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 22:56, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

We're really splitting hairs here. I'm sorry if I mistyped before. Ladtrack (talk) 00:00, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

• Leaning towards 'Greek and Nigerian'. (Summoned by bot) First, as someone who has spent a lot of time replying to RfCs over the years, I think I have probably encountered some variation of the WP:LEAD#WP:Nationality debate at least 40 times, so I'd like to assure the hyper confident on both sides of this debate that there is in fact nothing approaching a standard determination or standing precedent on this issue. Local consensus on the matter is always reached through a highly fact-specific analysis and ranges across a huge variation of outcomes. Indeed, the fact that WP:NATIONALITY itself reads as somewhat nebulous in many cases, despite its dozen varied examples, highlights how many factors come into play in such determinations and how divided the community remains on any positions beyond those already captured in the policy language.
  That precursor aside, I think that taking all factors into consideration here, there is an argument to be made for comprehensiveness in this lead statement. The subject is a citizen of both nations, Greece did not grant him citizenship until his majority because of his immigrant status, and sources indicate that he is highly devoted to, and identifies strongly with, his Nigerian heritage. While self-identification is itself a factor upon which editors (quite reasonably) disagree with respect to how it should control over lead statements regarding nationality, I personally think it's a moderately compelling element in the analysis here, given the particular background and personal perspectives of the man. And in all other respects, I think WP:NATIONALITY militates in the aggregate a little bit more for the fuller description. However, for whatever little it matters, 'Greek' should come first in the clause: the subject was born in Greece, received citizenship in Greece first, and rose to notability for his professional career within Greece.
  Lastly, I'd like to recommend that the respondents keep things in perspective here. For most BLPs, the difference in the inclusion or omission of one or more of the purported nationalities is an exceedingly trivial difference in the content--particularly where it turns on a highly technical parsing of the guideline, rather than being a big part of the subject's notability. In other words, I think it's easier to hit the point of WP:BLUDGEON very quickly in a case like this, where the overall impact of the options on the overall article is not major and we can expect reasonable minds to disagree on an interpretation. SnowRise ^{let's rap} 02:29, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

By your arguments, the most that could be written is that our subject is a Greek of Nigerian origin. As is the case of numerous articles on Greek persons, as well as on persons of other nationalities, in which we encounter notations, for instance, such as "XYZ is French of Algerian origin," either explicitly or implicitly, e.g. in Zinedine Zidane. -The Gnome (talk) 13:38, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Well, I can't agree your proposal represents "the most" that is permitted under the relevant guideline, and it's unclear to me from your response why you feel that result follows naturally from the facts and policy language I emphasized. I tend to think that, given he is a Nigerian citizen and actively and vocally embraces that nationality, it's not really a stretch to describe him as "Greek and Nigerian".

That said, I don't view your alternative as outside the scope of reasonably factual statements. But as prose, it does scan as somewhat grammatically awkward to my ear, and only becomes more so when you examine how that noun phrase would interact with the existing lead sentence with which it would need to be combined. All in all, I still think "Greek and Nigerian" is probably the descriptor that best summarizes the pertinent information about the subject's origins, heritage, and citizenship in the main body of the article. But I wouldn't lose sleep over either option. SnowRise ^{let's rap} 01:55, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

The opening paragraph should usually provide context for what made the person notable. That's the opening sentence in MOS:NATIONALITY. I find it adequate and quite conclusive. Wikipedia is all about sources. -The Gnome (talk) 13:59, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

And then the very next sentence continues "In most modern-day cases, this will be the country, region, or territory where the person is currently a national or permanent resident", linking to our article on citizenship. So, forgive me, but your quotation of the guideline there seems quite strategically selective.

But, to be blunt, your perspective on this issue does not appear to be open to change on the current facts, and I view the difference between your preferred version and my own to be marginal, so I don't think there is anything to be gained by further hair splitting over the verbiage. If the choice comes down to "Greek and Nigerian" or "Greek of Nigerian descent", I think we can be satisfied with either, though I do think the former is more accurate to the sources by far and more practical, in terms encyclopedic prose. The only option that would give me pause is if we entirely buried the African heritage of a man who has citizenship in an African state, and proudly and repeatedly declares that nationality and its importance to him, apparently in every public forum in which the subject comes up. To be honest, this doesn't even feel like an edge case to me, the more sources I see, but clearly, YMMV. SnowRise ^{let's rap} 21:55, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Nothing "selective" about my quotation, since I find it to be conclusive without the corollaries.

You wrote, "The only option that would give me pause is if we entirely buried the African heritage of a man who has citizenship in an African state, and proudly and repeatedly declares that nationality and its importance to him, apparently in every public forum in which the subject comes up." Burying the subject's national or ethnic heritage should not even be considered. That's definitely not on.

Whether the subject proclaims proudly his nationality/ethnicity or hides it in shame (for whatever reason, either way) should mostly be indifferent in shaping the text, except as a side note, e.g. "person X identifies as a Native American" when that person has no established ancestry as such, though also pointing out said discrepancy. -The Gnome (talk) 10:03, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

• Just Greek Because he was born in Greece and received Greek citizenship first, that citizenship should be his main. The reference to his Nigerian heritage and citizenship is already included in the section about his early life. Episteme Aletheia (talk) 02:20, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

  That's not how it work on Wikipedia buddy, if he has both citizenship, it is indicated in the lead. "But he had that one first!" is irrelevant. Snarcky1996 (talk) 12:16, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

  @Snarcky1996 Buddy, that is how Wikipedia works. We absolutely do not automatically include citizenship in the lead. Look at Kirsten Dunst, Dwayne Johnson and Julianne Moore. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 20:04, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

• Both I think given the subject's statement "This is a time for you to understand that I’m both. I’m not just Greek, I’m Nigerian." this should include both. Burcet95 (talk) 19:48, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

I re-iterate that sentiments do not affect nationality, which is established, by definition, strictly by documentation. The statement you quote is about ethnicity and heritage, and should certainly be included in the main text. We're discussion the opening section here. But lend also some interest to what WP:OPEN guides us on handling opening sections in general. -The Gnome (talk) 10:03, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Of course sentiments affect nationality. National identity is very much related to nationality, and Antetokounmpo has very publicly stated that he identifies as a Nigerian. It's explicitly considered in the case of Anya Taylor-Joy (one of the examples in MOS:NATIONALITY), who as the guideline notes isn't listed as an American because she's stated publicly that she considers her birthplace a fluke and doesn't identify as an American. The related discussion is here, where you can see editors factoring in her opinions and public statements when deciding what to do. And again, Antetokounmpo is literally a legal Nigerian citizen, and has been for almost as long as he's been a Greek citizen. Even if nationality was defined by documentation, which it is not, he is indisputably a Nigerian national. Ladtrack (talk) 17:31, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Nationality is the legal status of belonging to a particular nation, defined as a group of people organized in one country, under one legal jurisdiction, or a group of people who are united by a common culture, history, traditions, and awareness of a common origin. That's copied from the sources cited in nationality. Notice total absence of feelings, sentiments, opinions, speculations, or any other expressions of subject's personal views. Nationality, a legal term, is entirely different from national identity. Am I missing a WP guideline directing editors to post that instead of nationality? -The Gnome (talk) 13:39, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Right, except for this person that's not only his ethnicity. He would have the documentation as well as he's a Nigerian citizen. Also consider where it says: “He was given Greek citizenship in order to prevent him from traveling to New York as a Nigerian,” said Nikos Odubitan and then Giannis even applied for a Nigerian passport in September 2012. "What was largely underreported was that the Greek government began to speed up the process only once they realized that not only did Giannis have NBA potential but that Giannis and his team had reportedly turned to the embassy of Nigeria, hoping to gain citizenship here," Fader wrote in her book, emphasizing that Giannis still always prioritized obtaining the Greek citizenship.

As far as I understand dual nationality is relevant in this case and can be mentioned in the lead. Note that the Greece (and therefore European Union) passport travels a bit more freely (and for them to play in Europe) so it may purely be for convenience reasons that they prioritized obtaining the Greek one. Burcet95 (talk) 18:20, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

OK, we are firmly in the realm of speculation here ("may be," etc), boldened or not, in which I admit I have nothing to offer. -The Gnome (talk) 13:39, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

• Both: The guy literally have both nationalities, it's not just by origin (it is as well of course, and that has a weight too here) that he is Nigerian, it's by citizenship as well. On wikipedia, in literally all such cases, we always indicate both nationalities then. To ignore that would be just for a weird and unwarranted form of "greek pride", why would we care about that?

Snarcky1996 (talk) 12:10, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

That's not at all accurate. We absolutely do not always include every citizenship that a person has in the lead. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 18:58, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Are you saying that the suggestions for option B in this RfC are acting out of "greek pride", whatever that might be? If you are, I cannot tell what's worse, you assuming some sort of greek conspirators acting in concert or the intimation of bad faith. May I suggest you take some distance from the whole thing, Snarcky1996? You have already engaged in inappropriate behavior. -The Gnome (talk) 23:35, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

I agree with you on the inclusion but I don't think the people who disagree with us here acted out of WP:NATIONALISM/malicious intent, but rather misinterpreting the policy. Burcet95 (talk) 03:03, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

• Both I think we should respect how Giannis chooses to define himself, especially since it's documented in different sources like this one Stating that he feels both Greek and Nigerian and feels connected to both nationalities. Since he has two citizenship and identifies himself with both cultures, using "Greek and Nigerian" is the most accurate, neutral, and with accordance to BLP policy.Happypenguins82 (talk) 14:44, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Could you, please, point out the guideline where we're directed to denote a person under the nationality the person itself prefers? Rather than as of what nationality the sources from the competent authorities have that person? Nationality is a legal term, as we are all aware. -The Gnome (talk) 16:24, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Respectfully, Gnome, I think you've got the entire analysis working in reverse here. And I think it's down to misapprehension with what the guideline actually says, because the differing semantic meanings of "a national" and a "nationality" are not being properly appreciated. Because despite sharing a root morpheme, they actually invoke very different ideas and standards:

• On the one hand,"nationality" is a quasi-academic and social term with a very porous definition which imputes all manner of factors (birthplace, heritage, citizenship, cultural buy in, alternative memberships) and thus allows for very flexible and varied conclusions.
• On the other hand, when someone is called "a national", that is invoking an entirely different definition that is not a simple grammatical derivation imputing the same basic meaning. Rather, it is an idiomatically distinct (though related) term with a much more narrow meaning. Specifically, it is a legal and formal term of art, that has its own complexities in usage, but is much more focused on the straightforward facts about the person's legal and authorized citizenship in a country.

And there is no ambiguity in the established community consensus on how to approach this issue, where the operative guideline opens with: "The opening paragraph should usually provide context for what made the person notable. In most modern-day cases, this will be the country, region, or territory where the person is currently a national or permanent resident.". It use the term "national" and, if there was any lingering question about which usage we are meant to be leaning into, the guideline pipes the term to our "citizenship" article. That pretty much clears up any ambiguity that might otherwise have existed: in the lead, we list the countries in which a BLP subject is a citizen or permanent resident. Which makes sense: the community doesn't want endless nationality debate based on highly subjective terms, where a clear benchmark can be established.

Now, it's been unclear to me in reviewing your comments here, whether you merely confused these meanings for national/nationality, or if you are arguing that this shouldn't be the test. It seems more likely the latter to me. But respectfully, if that is your argument, this is not the place for it. The appropriate manner and place to implement that change would be a well-publicized RfC on the MOS talk page or WP:VPP. For now, the community consensus as formalized in that guideline is what it is.

That said, I'm sure I'm not the only one who under the right circumstances would accept an argument for departing from this norm. For example, if someone had technical citizenship in a country, but had never lived there, and in fact was on the record saying they felt alienated from that culture, then yes, maybe you might get some support for holding that out as a listed "nationality" for purposes of the lead. But here we have different facts. So I agree with you that self-identification ought to be considered a weak factor in where to deviate from the standard rule in this case. It's just that the standard rule would have us list every country for which Antetokounmpo has citizenship. SnowRise ^{let's rap} 21:52, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Without belaboring (much!) the point, all I'm doing is abiding by how sources are cited in the pertinent article: "Nationality is the legal status of belonging to a particular nation, defined as a group of people organized in one country, under one legal jurisdiction, or a group of people who are united by a common culture, history, traditions, and awareness of a common origin." (My emphasis.) And I already included the pointers about "feelings". Still, Snow Rise, I must thank you for a most courteous and constructive response. -The Gnome (talk) 07:09, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Of course! I classify this firmly under the category of reasonable minds may differ. And for what it's worth, I appreciate the argument you are making. I just don't think it's the one the guideline militates towards, or that these are good facts for an exception. But there's a lot of considerations, so it doesn't mystify me why some are for a more minimalist approach. SnowRise ^{let's rap} 07:15, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

@Snow Rise It's been extremely well established throughout multiple discussions that citizenship doesn't automatically mean nationality. Emily Blunt, Dwayne Johnson, Julianne Moore and Kirsten Dunst are just a couple examples of it. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 19:46, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

But you see, those are examples of WP:LOCALCONSENSUS. However, the guideline represents a higher and more binding level of WP:Community consensus regarding what the most commonly agreed upon approach and default approach is--at least for the large majority of cases. I'm sure you have seen exceptions to that rule; I certainly have. I've also seen many more use the standard rule, as well as all manner of third options. I'm sure the editors in the articles you cited felt they had good cause to make exceptions; I certainly presume no need to second guess them. So, in just that way, you are free to suggest an alternative approach under the auspices of local consensus and WP:IAR, as indeed you have.

At the same time, it's important to recognize that, however many articles have deviated over the years (and given the number of BLPs and the ever-bemusing obsession many editors have with nationality, I assure you, you can find number for every counterfactual under the sun), the community consensus remains the community consensus until such time as someone wins consensus for an amendment to the guideline. And most RfC respondents are going to lean towards the default rule unless you make a really good argument for a deviation. And personally, I don't think this is a good case for it. In fact, I think the facts only strengthen the case for the inclusive approach mandated under MOS:NATIONALITY. But again, your mileage may vary. SnowRise ^{let's rap} 07:16, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

I stand corrected - I was sure i saw a policy about the right to self-definition on nationality, but i was wrong, it was a WP:BLPCAT that relates to religion and ethnicity. And since MOS:NATIONALITY came up more than a few times I'll skip it, even though i find it relevant in this case, with examples such as Arnold Schwarzenegger. But take a look at WP:ETHNICRACECAT "Citizenship, nationality (which country's laws the person is subject to), national origin, and national identity (which country the person feels closest to)." Alongside the legal aspect of nationality (that you are rightfully reminding us), it should be both Nigerian and Greek, since he holds two legally binding nationalities as well as two passports.Happypenguins82 (talk) 01:20, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Comment Leaning towards Just Greek per MOS:ETHNICITY, as he has never lived in Nigeria and, but would be fine with Nigerian-Greek per WP:BLPKIND. But I do want to raise some concern that JDDJS is bludgeoning the discussion. Servite et contribuere (talk) 08:56, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

And I in response want to point out that @Servite et contribuere has shown a complete ignorance to policy in complaining on my talk page about me using a brief and neutral opening to this RFC, even though that is what policy explicitly says to do when opening an RFC. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 16:17, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

• Just Greek. It doesn't appear that his Nigerian citizenship was known until 2019, and wasn't mentioned in this article until 2021. While this isn't a slam dunk case, it does establish that he is clearly primarily known as Greek, and his Nigerian citizenship isn't especially relevant to his life overall. Mentioning it in the body is enough. Nohomersryan (talk) 21:24, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

• Both with context (Brought here from WP:RFC/A) - I would say after reading through the above arguments I see all sides points but ultimately I just think including both with the context that he has dual citizen ship is the best course of action. Factually it seems the most accurate and informative which is the ultimate goal of an encylopedia, presented in wiki voice and NPOV I think it serves the uninformed reader the best.

MaximusEditor (talk) 16:52, 1 July 2026 (UTC)

• Both, he's a dual citizen. He was already a pro basketball player in Greece for 2 years before he got Greek citizenship. If Greece wants to claim him fully they should have given him citizenship earlier.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:37, 2 July 2026 (UTC)

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Giannis Antetokounpo is a foward center for the miami heat ~2026-36197-58 (talk) 03:55, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want made. Umby 🌕🐶 (talk) 03:58, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Isn’t there supposed to be a career highlights in his info box? Jerry Steinfield (talk) 04:29, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

The reported trade to Miami is at best breaking news. Even the reports say it's not completed: ... but both the Heat and Bucks will execute the deal on July 6, which leaves the framework open to see if there are opportunities to expand. Last June, the Phoenix Suns and Houston Rockets agreed to a deal that ultimately increased to a historic seven-team trade. —Bagumba (talk) 04:35, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

The Miami Herald refers to the NBA's July moratorium: The trade can’t be finalized and made official until the NBA’s free agency moratorium is lifted on July 6 at noon.—Bagumba (talk) 17:59, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

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Add that Giannis Antetokounmpo has been officially traded to Miami Heat as of sending this request (3:00pm AEDT/4:00 UTC)

Sources: ^{[1] [2] [3]} ~2026-36359-72 (talk) 05:05, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

 Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 05:30, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Reported by Shams that Giannis is traded to the Miami Heat ~2026-36473-99 (talk) 12:49, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

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Giannis has been traded to Miami Heat please allow me to change the current info, Google has also updated Giannis is now part of the Miami Heat roster ~2026-36364-30 (talk) 16:03, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: See #Reported trade (above).—Bagumba (talk) 16:19, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

It is now official ~2026-36478-99 (talk) 17:13, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/49144931/giannis-traded-heat-faq-blockbuster-move-means-bucks-celtics-draft-playoff-race

This seems pretty official. Sorry, I'm still a learning editor but how do we get this page unlocked for editing? Hlmc4life52 (talk) 17:19, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

It can't finalize until at least early July. See #Reported trade (above). For general info on how these reports can be handled, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Sports/Handling sports transactions. —Bagumba (talk) 18:03, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Giannis has been traded to the heat ~2026-36520-92 (talk) 17:22, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

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Change career history (Milwaukee Bucks 2013 - current) to 2013 - 2026 and add Miami heat 2026 - current ~2026-36309-18 (talk) 19:15, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

 Not done See #Reported trade above Servite et contribuere (talk) 04:31, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

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Can I change all things that say Giannis is at Milwaukee to miami? Nothing scares me (talk) 22:35, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

 Not done See #Reported trade above. Servite et contribuere (talk) 04:32, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Giannis Antetokounmpo has been traded to the Miami Heat. https://www.nba.com/news/reports-heat-acquire-giannis-antetokounmpo-in-blockbuster-deal MHDavidian (talk) 00:33, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

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Miami Heat Tygrieve33 (talk) 01:15, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

 Not done See Reported trade above. Servite et contribuere (talk) 04:33, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

He is no longer a buck ~2026-37544-89 (talk) 11:10, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

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~2026-37562-16 (talk) 20:12, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. FlammablePizza (talk) 20:18, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

@FlammablePizza FYI, you can remove empty requests like these, per WP:ERREQ. Umby 🌕🐶 (talk) 02:12, 2 July 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, didn't know I could do that. FlammablePizza (talk) 02:23, 2 July 2026 (UTC)

Giannis was traded to the Miami Heat in June 2026 ~2026-37731-91 (talk) 20:17, 2 July 2026 (UTC)

As of June 23, Gianni’s has been with the Miami Heat after a blockbuster trade LockEmDown (talk) 18:00, 3 July 2026 (UTC)

Today is July 6th which means the giannis trade is official. It is the start of the new nba season. Ilovewiki1293 (talk) 17:22, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

It's official when an official person announces it. —Bagumba (talk) 17:28, 6 July 2026 (UTC)