User talk:GTHO

Noticed your using the book "Aussie Cars" as a reference - thank you, I didn't know about it's existence before but have now ordered myself a copy. As a return gift I here give you an easy copy and paste for referencing this very book, in full-on all-out all the bellsandwhistles wikiformat:

<ref>{{cite book | last = Davis | first = Tony | year = 1987 | title = Aussie Cars | location = [[Hurstville, New South Wales]] | publisher = Marque Publishing | pages = xx | isbn = 0947079017}}</ref>^[1]

Also, btw, here in NY "GTHO" means "Get The Hell Out" rather than Grand Touring High Output Handling Option. Just thought you might like to know.  ⊂ Mr.choppers ⊃  (talk) 21:40, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I invite your comment and participation at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian motorsport#Australian motorsport articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release please? Thank you for your consideration. --Falcadore (talk) 23:15, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Any information on the Trophy Class? --Falcadore (talk) 23:42, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Please refer to Class Structure section of article. GTHO (talk) 23:02, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Won't vbe able to attend to this until next week, am prepping for an important race meeting this weekend. --Falcadore (talk) 03:32, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Might it be possible to add a column for the dropped round score? --Falcadore (talk) 03:01, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

A common way of showing dropped points is to place them within brackets within the table itself. Of course the 2010 AGTC table doesn't show points per race it shows race placings. But I think brackets may still be the best bet. May I suggest that we pick this up on the actual Discussion page so that all interested parties can join in. GTHO (talk) 02:19, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

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As I remember it the only external difference between a Daimler Majestic and a Daimler Majestic Major is V signs in the horn grilles. They are not visible in the photograph so that the one image could apply to either article. Do you disagree? Eddaido (talk) 11:07, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

May I suggest that you raise the issue on the Daimler Majestic Major page so that others can participate as well. GTHO (talk)

How about this. You 'raise the issue' you have raised to whoever you wish. OK? Eddaido (talk) 04:50, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

OK GTHO (talk) 03:25, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

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As you know the technical regulaions of the Adelaide 500 have long been confusing and race organisers attitudes towards them even more so, I've attempted to re-write it to demonstrate this, but would appreciate your feedback. --Falcadore (talk) 01:43, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

I would have said that the Adelaide 500 / Clipsal 500 Adelaide has always been awarded to the winner of the Sunday race. I'll do some more digging and post my findings on the Adelaide 500 Talk page. GTHO (talk) 10:19, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

The trophy has been, but round winner has also been acknowledged separately - that was how the has Skaife won 40 rounds or not blown up - because they tried to retrospectively change some of the Adelaide 500 results so that round wins became Sunday wins. That attempt was later revoked. --Falcadore (talk) 10:48, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

I recall that course commentator Barry Oliver used to tell us each year that the championship round winner was decided on points over the two races but that the 500 winner was the winner of the Sunday race. According to www.v8supercars.com.au, “In 2000 the winner of the Clipsal 500 was the driver who scored the most points over the two races. In all other years the winner of the Clipsal 500 is the winner of the second race on Sunday.” Interestingly www.clipsal500.com.au shows Skaife as the 2000 winner. The Sup Regs for the 2000 Clipsal 500 tell us that “the winner of the Round will be the driver who has accumulated the largest number of points at the end of Leg two”. So Tander won the “Round” but who took the Clipsal 500 trophy home? My money is on Skaife, but I can’t prove it at this stage. Both www.v8supercars.com.au and www.clipsal500.com.au agree that Rick Kelly and not Todd Kelly won the 2007 500. GTHO (talk) 10:24, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh Skaife took the trophy home, but Garry Rogers kicked up the largest stink he could over it at the time. It was that very incident that caused the regs to be changed (second time in as many years after the 1999 debacle). However, the round winner stats went into the V8 Supercar records, up until the point they tried to change the results seven years after the fact. The Kelly brothers briefly swapped results for the same reason. --Falcadore (talk) 12:34, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

So do we agree that the Adelaide 500 / Clipsal 500 winner (as opposed to the championship round /event winner) has always been the winner of the Sunday race? GTHO (talk) 23:44, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

In some cases, only by co-incidence. 1999 being a case in point. --Falcadore (talk) 03:52, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

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By copied, I meant Production cars for a grid, but perhaps I should have explained that better. --Falcadore (talk) 10:06, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I've left a note at User talk:Lordosis for them to merge in their additional information; if that doesn't happen, you might want to email them and/or do the merge yourself. Once the information has been merged, the page "User:Lordosis" can be blanked so it doesnt appear in google results. Cheers, John Vandenberg ^(chat) 14:40, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Note: Tander raced under her maiden name of Ferrier prior to 1995. - did she get married at the age of 15? --Falcadore (talk) 04:35, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Note re-added with correct year. GTHO (talk) 03:10, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Commons is wrong - it so often is with Continentals. Some day there will have to be a great sort out. The rose garden and Begonia house behind it were given to the city by the local Rolls-Royce Bentley dealer in memory of his wife. Photo was taken on NZ leg of world tour by car's owner. Eddaido (talk) 03:49, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Difficulty is that the photo was uploaded by someone determined to be and remain anonymous (maybe it should not be there). It definitely is an R-type. I don't know how else to do this so I suggest you yourself make contact with the world expert, Martin Bennett of Canberra ACT, perhaps through your nearest Owners Club details and then if you as well as I are both satisfied it can be marked on the Wikimedia file? Here's about Martin Bennett. Eddaido (talk) 03:49, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Why not pick this up on the Talk page of the article in question so all interested parties can have their say? GTHO (talk) 23:54, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

International pickup and antipodean variations

IH B-120 (US)

IH C-1600 (Aus, 1966-1973)

'78 Dodge D500 (Aus, 1972-1979)

Hello GTHO, first introduced in 1956 (?), the IH A-series, B-series, and C-series (and any other names they may have had later, I know next to nothing about these trucks) are currently of interest to me as they were also bizarrely marketed as Dodges in Australia (Chrysler Australia apparently did all the pressing work, although the cabins still had "IH" stamped in the sheetmetal). Aside from message boards, I cannot find any mention of the Aussie market IH/Dodges, and OSX suggested that you may know more.

While there are plenty of photos, there is nowhere to put them and I don't even know what one could possibly title an article (or a Commons category, for that matter) on these rather charming old International pickups.  ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃  (talk) 02:18, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm not really a truck person, but I'll see if I can find anything. GTHO (talk) 23:02, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Pardon me for butting in but in case its a help (not really sure what is required)—I grew up with a red 1950 AL-110— I found this in a display ad. Is it any help? In other ads I see they sold kerosene-powered refrigerators and in the 1960s a vehicle like a kind of Jeep.

from []

The Australian Women's Weekly
Wednesday 22 April 1959 page 58

DANDENONG WORKS

GEELONG WORKS

Victoría, and the World..

International Harvester has shared in the development of Victorian industry in recent years. The first IH manufacturing plant in this State was opened in 1933 near Geelong, Victoria, principally for the manufacture of farm machinery; tractors were added in 1948. This was followed in 1952 with the establishment of the Works at Dandenong, Victoria, which produce a complete line of Motor Trucks. In 1958, International Harvester's Port Melbourne Works began producing the International Construction Equipment which is playing such a vital role in building Australia's future.

The establishment of these Works showed confidence in the future. They employ over three thousand Victorians. Their products are not only helping to earn a profitable livelihood for people all over Australia, but in many places beyond the seas.

PORT MELBOURNE WORKS

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£7,000,000 OF IH EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURED IN VICTORIA HAS BEEN EXPORTED OVERSEAS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS

INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER COMPANY OF AUSTRALIA PTY. LTD.

OFFICES IN CAPITAL CITIES; WORKS AT DANDENONG, GEELONG AND PORT MELBOURNE, VICTORIA.

BUILDER OF ESSENTIAL EQUIPMENT FOR ESSENTIAL WORK

Eddaido (talk) 00:43, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

That's a start! Cheers,  ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃  (talk) 02:25, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

According to Gavin Farmer, Great Ideas in Motion, page 315:

• The Dodge AT4 was introduced by Chrysler Australia in 1962
• The Australian Dodge AT4 and International AB-line were both based on an International Harvestor cab design from the USA
• The AT4 had different grille, badges and fenders to distinguish it from the AB-line
• Body panels were pressed by Chrysler at Keswick (later Tonsley Park) and then sent to Finsbury for AT4 assembly and to IHC in Dandenong, Victoria for AB assembly GTHO (talk) 23:23, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Great. I began an article, entitled International Harvester A-Series, which I believe should include this content. Did IH production of the AB begin earlier, or was this it? That is to say, did Chrysler press all the panels for this range from the beginning, or did IH originally use US made cabs? Or was it some other solution. In any case, I am glad to have some firm ground to stand on (unlike in real life, where hurricane Irene is a-comin!).  ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃  (talk) 02:23, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

On page 310 of Great Ideas in Motion, Farmer says that in 1953 Chrysler Australia began pressing the panels for the "Powerhouse" range of Dodge, Fargo and De Soto trucks as well as for the International Harvestor AL range. He also writes that both cabs were derived from a US Dodge design, modified to suit the needs of the two Australian companies. GTHO (talk) 10:27, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Peculiar, as International's AL-range uses an exact copy of the American IH L-line cab (AL = Australian L-line).  ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃  (talk) 04:32, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi GTHO, just curious to know why you have added 2-dr saloon and 2-dr convertible to the infobox? Eddaido (talk) 11:03, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Simply because its a fact but if you wish to dispute this lets continue discussions on the talk page of the actual article. GTHO (talk) 23:08, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Makes sense to move to the article talk page but perhaps you can just point me to where they appear in the manufacturer's catalogue (I think they were only specials by near dead coachbuilders) and if you can prove it I'll let it pass. Eddaido (talk) 23:46, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

I've added a reference to the Infobox entries. GTHO (talk) 23:59, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Keith Wong and Kiang-Kuan Wong are two different people, related albeit, not one long-named person. --Falcadore (talk) 03:31, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Fixed. I should have checked it out. GTHO (talk) 09:48, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for reverting my changes, this information was really new for me. Regards, --Pitlane02 talk 08:07, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

I haven't actually. You've given me something to think about there. ThanksHoldenV8 (talk) 09:01, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

NZ for 40-odd years after 1945 (with very carefully controlled exceptions) assembled all its own cars. This extended even to Jaguars and of course included the Australian made Holdens Falcons and Valiants and briefly Leyland P76. However, if a car were an Australian-made version of someone else's (i.e. not a pure Australian breed!) like - Fiat 1500, Morris Major, MGB, our importers of fully assembled cars (a market very restricted by government regulation) would buy the Italian or British export version, not the Australian-made version with design modified for the Australian market. Also having small production runs (for example Toyota Australia) would hold on to designs long outdated in Japan and NZ. True I do remember small imports of pre-Valiant Aust-made Chrysler Royals - "the exception to prove the rule" as they say. And of course in those days a lot of Australians emigrated to greener pastures in NZ bringing their (cheaper first-cost) cars with them so strays did appear on our roads. It all began to change in the mid 1970s . . . Eddaido (talk) 07:12, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Eddaido - Thanks, but I'm not clear on why you have told me this. GTHO (talk) 22:51, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I got carried away a bit there, I mean above. You made some improvements to Morris Majors of 2 kinds and I changed the Australian article removing a statement (you were not responsible for it) in a manner which might have appeared abrupt. Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 00:02, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, i have taken it apon myself to help improve the content avaible on seperate GT models, and other aspects of performance fords in australia. Ford Tickford Experience FPV GT R-spec Ford EL Falcon GT there is currently discussion on the merger of the two GT models into cluttered parent articals.Space alligator (talk) 10:10, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Earlier today I found myself looking at a picture of a Morris Oxford which seemed to suggest they began to be made around 1952. Then I looked it up on the page you have recently amended and it said they got started in 1948. Then I read further and it seemed to effectively say nothing was made between 1936 and 1948 which is to say the least odd. THen I found a note about 14s 16s and 18s so I made some links because no-one has ever written about them. Then I found a picture in Commons so I thought I would help by putting the picture in its rightful place. I have since learnt two things. First, as I suspected, nobody actually reads these things anyway. The second is that you object and have removed it. Why? Regards, Eddaido (talk) 12:17, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

I left a note on the Morris Oxford talk page for you. Do you think it will be enough to attract (favourable) attention? Regards, Eddaido (talk) 11:32, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi GTHO. Haven't spoken to you in a while, but nonetheless but I've got another user with a question relating to the measurement of displacement for the old Grey motor in the early Holdens. If you have the time, your input would be appreciated at: User talk:OSX#Holden "21h.p." engine. Regards, OSX (talk • contributions) 20:00, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I'll see what I can find. GTHO (talk) 23:25, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, you were not to know I put that bit in there:

• From BMC came
  each year in excess of one million copies of:

• Austin
• Morris
• MG
• Riley
• Wolseley
• Vanden Plas

• From Jaguar Cars came
  each year between 15,000 and 30,000 examples of:

• Jaguar
• Daimler
• Coventry Climax
• Guy

Why did you take it out? Can we discuss it please? Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 21:38, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

I removed it because I didn't think it made much sense. I'll raise my concerns again, on the BMH Talk page. GTHO (talk) 03:09, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

That makes sense(!) I mean location and reason you took action. See you there. Eddaido (talk) 07:05, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

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Fixed. GTHO (talk) 09:17, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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Already fixed GTHO (talk) 03:25, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm belatedly noticing that the results posted in the article are substantially different to records I have. Could you please check and confirm? Regards, --Falcadore (talk) 06:50, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

I'll see if I can dig up the main source that I used. What source do you have that differs? GTHO (talk) 09:47, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

1999 edition of Australia's Greatest Motor Race. --Falcadore (talk) 11:28, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

The reference I have just added to the page for the Fastest Lap could also serve as a reference for the results as currently shown. GTHO (talk) 08:07, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Except the results on the NMRM website does not match the results in Wikipedia. Class A for example. --Falcadore (talk) 14:34, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Ok, what say you bring this up on the Talk page for the article and we take it from there. GTHO (talk) 10:17, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi GTHO, I have just had a happy time with this article adding some images because I had just uploaded one that I thought was more apt than the one you had there. But I write to you now because I have just noticed this article is only a matter of weeks old and I'd assumed it was from something like 2006. So I hope you will accept my apologies for doing a bit of rip s***t and bust around that place though I guess that might be quite hard to do. Sorry!, Eddaido (talk) 02:21, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Because I was here I took another look at this and tried to improve on the layout of the article. I have the idea that because the Australian Vauxhall bodies were made by Holden they continued to have a separate chassis (possibly because Holden did not have the presses to make the necessary relatively heavy steel structure) anyway because of that (the chassis continuing) they were able to continue to make convertibles and utes. Does this fit with what you know? Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 08:32, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Norm Darwin (in "100 Years of GM in Australia", page 130) says that "Holdens produced Sedans, Commercial Roadsters and Convertible Coupes with J Series mechanicals except the Australian cars used a chassis" Perhaps you could raise this on the talk page for the actual article where all interested parties can participate. GTHO (talk) 22:25, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for that and I will do. Being familiar with the NZ (i.e. UK) equivalents I think they were distinct Holden bodies on Vauxhalls back perhaps even into the 1920s? Is there any record of this? and the 14hp light six began in 1933 but I think the J might be only from 1938. Do you know if that's right? I also read somewhere that Holdens in the 1930s made bodies for other US GM cars that were sent to NZ. Some may have been sent to NZ but normal NZ stock was I am sure direct from US/Canada because the Australian bodies always look strangely familiar yet unfamiliar to me. Like seeing someone's sister rather than the right girl if you see what I mean. Almost right but not right. Eddaido (talk) 03:48, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi GTHO, I've just been revising the page about Morris Cowleys (though I'm not finished and I'd be grateful for any thoughts you might have about these and other changes). I notice that it seems you moved the article about the short-lived Cowley vans to the Cowley (car) article. I'd like to remove the vans from the Cowley article back to their own article and deal with them and categorise them with other Morris commercial vehicles rather than cars. Do you have strong arguments in favour of keeping them with cars? Regards, Eddaido (talk) 08:08, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps you could raise this on the talk page for the actual article where all interested parties can participate. GTHO (talk) 22:25, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Sorry to hear today's news. I was about to write to tell you about these images I've been allowed to upload. They all relate to GM Holden's, I think, and I am just writing to let you know about them whether or not you can use them anywhere I don't know but at least you know they are available. Hold on, there are also three Austin 1800 ute images.

Utes

• Bedford utility
• 1947 Chev
• Chev rear

Tourers etc

• Vauxhall 12
• Vauxhall Wyvern
• Vauxhall 14
• Vauxhall Big Six

Austin

• Austin 1800 utility

Regards, Eddaido (talk) 11:53, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm sure I'll find a use for many of them. GTHO (talk) 09:07, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi, in case you're not already aware of it, a group of Adelaide Wikipedians has been meeting on a monthly basis since April, with the aim of improving the scope and quality of articles on South Australian topics. We meet at UniSA's City West campus, and our 23 July meeting will have a guest speaker from the National Trust of SA.

This coming Sunday, 6 July, we will be holding our first Edit-a-thon. This will be an opportunity for new editors to come and learn either basic or more advanced editing from very experienced wikipedians, so if you know anyone who would like to get some practice, please let them know - and beginners will be very welcome. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 04:57, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

I have just made this new list article. Please would you tell me about them or fix all the things I have done wrong. Thanking you in advance etc, Eddaido (talk) 21:32, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. GTHO (talk) 09:59, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

There is a discussion at WikiProject Motorsport you may or may not have an opinion on. V7867 (talk) 17:38, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Do you know what kind of engine this is? Its a good looking photo and I'd like to upload it (if its not a one-off)

(Post script) is this a lead or a red herring?

Have a nice Xmas. Eddaido (talk) 08:13, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

No, sorry, I don't know what it is! GTHO (talk) 02:07, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

{{help me}}

Please help me with the following. I would like to add a template which requests an image be added for an entry on the page List of Chrysler vehicles. I have seen this used on another page but I can't find that page and I can't find anything in Help. Thanks

GTHO (talk) 06:11, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi GTHO. See {{Image requested}}--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 07:15, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi, the other day I came accross the article Holden W platform and it sounds suspect to me. I was wondering what you thought of it. While there are elements of truth to the article, I never really thought of the HQ era cars as having a dedicated platform like the Commodore did. I always understood it as the car itself being made in several body variants and trim levels. "Holden W platform" sounds like original research to me, using some factual information and making incorrect deductions based on this. Lastly, despite owning and having read many Holden history books (although a couple of years ago) I cannot recall this platform ever being mentioned. OSX (talk • contributions) 02:16, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

I agree with your comments. I don't remember hearing or reading anything about it either. As it is unreferenced, I would support a proposal to delete it. GTHO (talk) 02:40, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Ok done: . Thanks for your input. OSX (talk • contributions) 03:00, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello, I don't have a problem with this article being deleted. It appears that from the very beginning when GM acquired Holden that it would seem logical that GM would institute "platform engineering", something they've been doing since 1926. I think GM uses platform engineering for Opel and Vauxhall early products, and more recently Isuzu and Suzuki. If GM did actually use a platform with a letter code designation, it would be nice to have credible facts from a GM-Holden source, but it doesn't mean that the article should remain if a source can't be quoted (Regushee (talk) 00:05, 10 January 2015 (UTC))

Thanks for your improvements, was pleased to find them just now because it means you are not (were not?) caught up in any fire storm? Don't you think the article is too big? Regards, Eddaido (talk) 01:51, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughts. We were not in any danger over here on the western side of Adelaide. I agree that the page seems to be a bit on the long side. GTHO (talk) 09:09, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Please would you help me out here: this picture of a Minx with an unusual grille intrigues me because I am trying to update Singer and I want to add this picture to the SM1500 article, they must have been using up a stock of the SOHC engines. SICNAG I think is reliable. BUT when I read the second paragraph below the Flickr pic. it seems to contradict the first paragraph. Do you know the truth of the matter? I won't use it if you are not confident. Thanks and regards etc, Eddaido (talk) 02:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

The pictured car is an Australian produced Hillman Gazelle from 1966-67, based on the Singer Gazelle VI. The image should not be used on the Singer SM1500 page as that was a very different car.

The Singer SM1500 of 1947-50 used a 1525cc OHC engine.

The Singer SM1500 of 1951-54 used a 1497cc OHC engine.

The Hillman Minx-based Singer Gazelle I/II models of 1956-58 used the 1497cc OHC engine from the SM1500.

The Singer Gazelle IIA/III/IIIA/IIIB models of 1958-61 used the Hillman 1494cc OHV engine.

The Singer Gazelle IIIC/V models used the Hillman 1592cc OHV engine.

The Singer Gazelle VI of 1965-67 used the Hillman 1725cc OHV engine.

The Australian Hillman Gazelle from 1966-67 used the alloy head 1725cc OHV engine from the Sunbeam Rapier.

I hope that helps. GTHO (talk) 07:21, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes it does thank you! I thought it might be a continuation in Aust. of the Gazelle I/II models of 1956-58. I was getting my decades muddled. Hmmm, well, if its only my decades then that's OK ;), Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 22:13, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi, yesterday I decided to create a new article on CSV but 2 users not from Australia deemed it appropriate to have it deleted and blocked. I have managed to seek a review, which I think involves having "community" support for the article to stay. Afterall, CSV has gained independent manufacturer status like HSV to built its own cars and there's similar companies worldwide featured in wiki articles. The 2 people involved seem to have acted capriciously. Anyway, if you can contribute to the debate and support it, further info is here Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2015_June_21. Just thought I would contact you (and feel free to involve other automotive enthusiasts) having noted you are from Australia and hopefully do know about CSV independently, and also thanks to your helpful contributions on Australian cars' articles. Cheers CtrlXctrlV (talk) 14:13, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

I see this article has acquired a new external link to Austin Memories.
Same with Herbert Austin, 1st Baron Austin
Should they stay or go? regards, Eddaido (talk) 00:15, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't have strong feelings either way. GTHO (talk) 06:33, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

I think it should be fine to have links to owner clubs etc but Austin Memories is just a pure history site which updates itself from here and has the use of the official photo collection. In other words (am I being over-sensitive?) it seems to be saying now you've looked at Wikipedia come and read the real story. That in particular is what I'm unhappy about and I'd like to remove it. Do you mean you would not object to that? Eddaido (talk) 06:53, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

I see what you mean, but the fellow - aka "Mr Austin Memories" John Baker - has put a huge amount of work into his Austin website which contains a whole lot more detail than is likely to fetch up on Wikipedia any time soon. And his website looks (though I know these things can be hard to assess) well researched and carefully compiled. It's nicely presetned, too, which these days matters (maybe a lot more than it should). On a personal level, I wonder if he's one of the thousands who spent a large part of his life working for Austin and/or successor entities. Either way, I think what he has produced is genuinely a potential source of interesting additional info for wikipedia readers.

I hope you don't mind me jumping in on your (pl.) discussion of this. Regards Charles01 (talk) 07:08, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

You are entitled, doesn't stop me minding though. I must stop you next time you plan a fix! Eddaido (talk) 07:12, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

I suggest that this discussion would be better placed on the Talk page of the article in question. GTHO (talk) 23:43, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

If no one else has any concerns I'll just drop the matter. Eddaido (talk) 01:22, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi GTHO, why do you think Rootes Group bought Karrier? Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 08:24, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

I have added a reference to the Karrier acquisition sentence on the Commer page. GTHO (talk) 08:34, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Yup, I see that but what is it makes you think the statement is correct? Eddaido (talk) 08:37, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

It is one of many references that I have found supporting the statement. GTHO (talk) 09:47, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Please may I know the reference? Eddaido (talk) 10:00, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

I didn't note them all down but Google was the tool I used. GTHO (talk) 10:06, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Ah, well then mind if I revert your change and supply the reference which is (this company is partly owned by Rootes Securities) Humber Limited's chairman's address to shareholders 27 November 1934 in which he says: The Commer Programme: "Subsequent to the end of the financial year we have acquired the goodwill and certain of the assets from the Receiver of the old-established company known as Karrier Motors Limited of Huddersfierld." "The acquisition of Karrier . . . ". Would you like me to email you the clipping? Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 10:17, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

I trust that you will act appropriately based on the information you have at hand. You might like to review the "1934 takeover" information on the Karrier and Rootes Group pages as well. GTHO (talk) 22:28, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Will do. Did think they were correct. Chilly Spring over your way too? Eddaido (talk) 03:37, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

I had no reason to suspect that they were inaccurate. We had our first warm day today, 27 max. GTHO (talk) 09:35, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, that's warm for early September, (and summer here!) Eddaido (talk) 09:40, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

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So why was this very strange kind of car made? cheers, Eddaido (talk) 21:58, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

My opinion on why it was made is not really relevant to the article. GTHO (talk) 22:02, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

I agree your criticism has validity. I still think there needs to be an explanation of why the cars were bought. Do people still gather round the back of the car at race meetings any more? I'd have thought the blood alcohol business would have sharply cut that back. Because you have deleted it have you considered searching for a source for a quote that pleases you? regards, Eddaido (talk) 22:52, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

I will give it some thought. GTHO (talk) 02:05, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi GTHO, why do you believe series should be Series. Eddaido (talk) 06:00, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Series is used for the Super Snipe in (for example) the 1961 Observers Book of Automobiles, the 1966 Observers Book of Automobiles, The Glass's Dealer Guide (June 1973), HUMBER CARS WORKSHOP MANUAL HAWK SNIPE SUPER SNIPE PULLMAN & IMPERIAL 1946-61, HUMBER SUPER SNIPE ROAD TEST REPRINT BOOK + SERVICING DATA. GTHO (talk) 06:49, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks.

• I used a small "s" because it is an adjective rather than the name of the car. Would you refer to a Yellow Humber or a yellow Humber? Snipe is a model name, SERIES VII is not, its is just an adjective like yellow.
• MoS asks we avoid unnecessary capitalisation. see: Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Capital letters and for what its worth Capitalization in English
• I don't think not particularly heavyweight publications of half a century ago should set Wikipedia's style. The road test report reprints are illegible so far as I can tell. Can you see mention of a series or mark in the Motor or Autocar proper, I can't.
• But Humber themselves just referred to the New Humber in their ads (not our new Mark IV Humber. Jaguar of course was different there (I think, right? wrong?)) and where Humber found it necessary to make the distinctions between models in service manuals and the like their orthography was e.g. SERIES III or MARK IV. As that is Humber's way of doing things it would be rational I suppose to do the same?

What do you think? I very much prefer e.g. series VII. Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 10:26, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

I note that a "Rootes Group" Humber Super Snipe advertisment extracted from an unknown magazine makes reference to "The latest range of improvements in the Series IV...." That would make Series IV an official model code rather than simply an adjective!

• I also note that the 1990 Graham Robson book "Cars of the Rootes Group" uses (e.g.) "Humber Super Snipe Series I" on the same page as reference to the "Humber Hawk Series IV".
• I agree that Humber did not generally use it model codes to market its cars the way Jaguar did, however that makes these codes no less official, just less obvious.
• I am not inclined to follow Humbers workshop manual cover style of using fully capitalised "SERIES IV" etc as they also used "HUMBER" and "SUPER SNIPE" on the covers of these publications.
• In summary, I am very much in favour of following the "Series IV" style for these codes. GTHO (talk) 22:31, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

• Please may I have a URL for that ad? Those very many ads I have found do not.
• Graham Robson is not official
• Fair enough
• And I am not. You changed what had been there for a while. Please would you revert it. Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 00:23, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Unfortunatley the Super Snipe Series IV advertisment to which I refer is in hard copy. I do not know of any copies of this on the internet.

However I can refer you to another eBay entry, this one for the "Workshop Manual Automatic Transmission as fitted to Humber Cars" as issued by Humber Limited. The fourth image is of the Alphebetical Index page on which reference is made to "Super Snipe Series I, II and III". GTHO (talk) 09:04, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Looks to me to be completely outweighed by the conventional formats. Standby for a heap of URLs OK? Eddaido (talk) 09:10, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, I noticed that you added images from Clipsal to the 2016 Dunlop Series article. Do you happen to have any of the cars from the main series? I am looking to add images to both the season page and the event page. It would be great to haves images of the pole-sitters' (Pye/Mostert/Coulthard) and the race winners' (Whincup/Courtney/Percat) cars. – Kytabu 09:09, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Unfortunatley I didn't get any worthwhile images of the Championship cars this year. I usually get a few pitlane shots after the race on Sunday but I didn't get that opportunity thanks to the weather. Thanks for asking! GTHO (talk) 01:24, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

No problem, thanks. – Kytabu 02:10, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

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Hi GTHO. FYI, I've suggested an alternative solution to the F1 infobox issue at the discussion. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 00:14, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

I've replyed and given appology on my talk page Graham.Fountain | Talk 09:55, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

It's rather a disambiguation.Xx236 (talk) 08:38, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Fixed. GTHO (talk) 09:28, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

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Please help me with...removing the first of two "Reference" section headings at 2017 Australian GT Championship. GTHO (talk) 07:05, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Looks like its already been done by another user... Nightfury 11:55, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

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• @Boleyn: Thanks Boleyn. I did that one in a bit too much of a hurry. Issue fixed and tag removed. GTHO (talk) 09:11, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, that's great. Boleyn (talk) 16:14, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello, I believe that your recent edit regarding the engine of Kevin Bartlett in 1969 is incorrect, but as I don't actually have access to the Autosport article I didn't want to revert right away. Please see Talk:Macau Grand Prix, thanks. A7V2 (talk) 12:22, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

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I believe that the copyright violation issue at 1986 European Touring Car Championship relates only to the "Background" text and not to the other sections of the article. I would like to restore the article without this offending section. What is the protocol for doing this please?

GTHO (talk) 04:08, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

The standard procedure is to rewrite the article at Talk:PAGENAME/Temp (so Talk:1986 European Touring Car Championship/Temp), which is linked at the noticeboard listing. You can also add a short note at the listing if you want. Alpha3031 (t • c) 04:39, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

I have recreated the page at Talk:1986 European Touring Car Championship/Temp using the old version of "1986 European Touring Car Championship", less the offending "Background" section. GTHO (talk) 08:08, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

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Where do we go from here please? GTHO (talk) 10:30, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

A copyright clerk or an admin will review the rewrite and implement it if appropriate. You don't have to do anything else at this point but wait. Thank you for your effort in fixing this. Huon (talk) 15:18, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

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you changed the 2018 race name, doesn't the 2019 and 20 races need the name change too ? I'd do it but have I missed something to not do it ? Dave Rave (talk) 00:57, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea to me. GTHO (talk) 11:45, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

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Just wondering if you know - the 1966 Gold Star and 1.5 litre championship races were supposed to be (mostly) concurrent, yet the dates of the Surfers Paradise round are two weeks apart. Do you know which is wrong and which is correct?

1966 Australian Drivers' Championship

1966 Australian One and a Half Litre Championship --Falcadore (talk) 08:49, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Good pickup. The 1966 CAMS Manual gave the date for the A1½LC heat as 28 August and that was used as the reference on the A1½LC page. The Official Programme has 14 August. I have changed the date on the A1½LC page accordingly with the Programme as the reference. GTHO (talk) 09:32, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

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There is a duplication of the image in the Infobox on the page Automobiles Lombard. How can I remove the duplicate image please? GTHO (talk) 00:36, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Ah—took me a moment, but it looks like both "image" and "logo image" were set to that image on its Wikidata item. That infobox template will automatically use "logo image" if no logo is set Wikipedia-side. You can see the change here. Perryprog (talk) 00:43, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much for that. GTHO (talk) 02:19, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

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I would like to know how to amend the 2018 Adelaide 500 page so that it does not have the large text break at "Championship standings after Race 1"

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I don't see any text break there. Could it be some feature of how your particular web browser displays the page, or some setting of yours? JBW (talk) 10:26, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

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You may wish to note that, whilst I created the page, this was only as a re-direct. I did not actually populate the page. GTHO (talk) 11:40, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

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You may wish to note that, whilst I created the page, this was only as a re-direct. I did not actually populate the page. GTHO (talk) 09:51, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

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Hi there, you added the reference "<ref name=AY>FIA/GT Championship, Automobile Year 1998/1999, page 264</ref>" on that page back in 2017. Do you still happen to have that book? Also, is it possible that the book has an ISBN that we could use? Thank you. X750. Spin a yarn? _{Articles I've screwed over?} 20:10, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

I don't have the actual book, but there is information about its ISBN here. Was there other information in the book that you were after? GTHO (talk) 22:58, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I also found its ISBN. I just wanted the results of the Mercedes-Benz CLK LM, which I nominated for good article status. The citation you posted implied that page 264 had the results of that season, so I kind of hoped you'd have it. No worries though, we found an online source. X750. Spin a yarn? _{Articles I've screwed over?} 04:33, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi GTHO; I see you added mention of the 194 engine being installed in the Holden HD in South Africa. The reference is from issue 220 of Restored Cars magazine. Now, if you go to the Holden HD talk page you will see that I unearthed an old South African car magazine which unequivocally states that the 194 was introduced during (or for) 1967. I looked at ebay.au for issue 220 to double check what their wording may have been but cannot find it available anywhere - would you be able to provide a scan of the pages or sell me the back issue in question? I am fully aware that it is probably hidden deep in your basement or something...  Mr.choppers | ✎  16:32, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

The actual wording from Restored Cars #220, Sep-Oct 2013, page 45 is ".........South Africa had been fitting the 194cid six to some Holdens from the HD series."

GTHO (talk) 09:51, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! As things currently stand, it feels to me as if Restored Cars got it wrong. I can find any number of references for the HR, including the period mention which explicitly states that it was first introduced in the 1967 HR - but I have nothing else which suggests that the HD was sold with anything other than Holden engines. There is a discussion at Talk:Holden HD#ZA cars if you would care to weigh in. Best regards, thanks again for sleuthing.  Mr.choppers | ✎  18:20, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. GTHO (talk) 08:16, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

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Hi GTHO, why do you add the big white chunk before the TOC sometimes? See here. Writing __TOC__ and then {{clear}} optimizes the layout for most screens as far as I can tell. Also, I should tell you that I just ordered Gavin Farmer's book on Chrysler thanks to you referencing it here; apparently this is the second addition to my library as a result of your editing.  Mr.choppers | ✎  03:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

The idea of adding the {{-}} is simply to be better align the next infobox and accompanying photo with the next section header. Adding __TOC__ doesn't seem to make any difference on my screen. Glad to know that my references have lead you to some useful additions to your collection. GTHO (talk) 05:19, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes, {{clear}} and {{-}} do the same thing and I agree with adding them. The problem is that the Table of Contents only appears after the {{-}}, which means a sizable chunk of white space on the left, followed by a white space to the right of the TOC, and then the first section header. Forcing the TOC to appear before the {{-}} avoids this, with no negative impact on anyone else's screens (as far as I can tell). Best,  Mr.choppers | ✎  03:03, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

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