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Hey Loopla, I'm wondering if you can verify Image:JoeysHH1930s.jpg supposedly of St. Joseph's College, Hunters Hill. The building bears very little similarity to the main building of the school; the landscaping around the building in the photograph bears no similarity whatsoever to the relatively flat terrain immediately around the actual school. I think you've got the wrong St Joseph's. -Sticks66 (talk) 13:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

The photo in question is of Kincoppal-Rose Bay, School of the Sacred Heart, Sydney. Castlemate (talk) 02:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

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I was wondering why you removed the line: "Professors who attended PAC include:"? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:02, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Have you got any ideas about the statement 'The Director of Rowing is colloquially known as "The Rangga"'? To me, it seems worthy of removal. What do you think? Pdfpdf (talk) 12:02, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Thanks. Pdfpdf (talk) 14:45, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

That piece was vandalism by someone. Rangga is an insult. I guess that's just one of the joys of Wikipedia, people can slip in a little bit of rubbish and it takes many months for people to notice. BTW Loopla, nice job on the Annesley College page. It's saved me quite a lot of research and effort. Ozdaren (talk) 11:21, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Completed a PR of PLC Sydney, i think its good enough for FA. Good work. Twenty Years 07:38, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey I noticed you added a tag on Josh710 for poor edits, he's doing the same with the article for The Biggest Loser Australia (Season 3) and thought you might like to add to the dispute on the discussion page or help with stopping his edits as they are frustrating. He keeps reverting edits and removing information, adding his own information which is poorly written and messing up the consistency set out by the previous two seasons. I can't seem to explain clearly that the article is being messed up. Do you know the process to get it sorted out civilly? Cheers. Peter (talk) 03:09, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

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In response to the removal of the aforementioned section, i adress Loopla and Twenty Years. I my self am i past captain of the college and believe that both i, and my fellow captains deserve a mention on this site. i also believe that the current leadership have the right to be mentioned, as i would have appreciated also many years ago. What is the point of wikipedia? the answer is to provide information to the public, and to let the public decide what is included. i feel that these two categories fulfill both criteria. the information is rlevant, wheter you accept it or not.

In response to it being unencylopedic wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn defines encyclopedic as being broad in scope or content. The history of college leadership isnt broad enough for you?

and finally, the audacity of saying that no one cares is shocking. evidently the poor soul who added the list cares, hence enough to warrent its presence. i feel that people should STOP trying to enforce their beleifs on this site. none of you, and i speak particularly to loopla and Twenty Years, are administrators on this site. you have the same entitlements as anyone else in this world does to decide what goes on this page. for this reason, i will continue to undo your edits. wikipedia is not about manipulation and controlling, thats not the reason why you are allowed to edit it. i hope to not have to continue in this childish war. if anyone wishes to discuss this issue further, please do so.

Zebra91 (talk) 07:03, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Loopla, i wish to bring your attention to my recent post on the Patrician Brothers College Fairfield Disscusson Board:

I refer everyone to WP:SCH#WNTI, the guide on how to write articles on schools. the last line of the intro sates Note that these are only recommendations, and editors are not obliged to follow them. Over the past week i have been bombarded with excuses on why these lists should not be added, from child protection (which was a void excuse, considering that the names of these students and many others appear on the school website without permission, also names do not breach any official codes), the quote that "School articles should specifically not include: Lists of current teachers, pupils, administrative staff, school secretaries, etc", where all school articles breech this, particularly this one with many references (where the so called refereeing of the article now?) and finally that it is unencyclopaedic. wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn defines encyclopedic as being broad in scope or content. The history of college leadership isnt broad enough for you?. Then after i tried to defend my reasoning, the only thing loopla had to retaliate with was Wikipedia is not a place for self promotion (see WP:SOAP). . Seriously, what is that? thats resorting to desperation, because you all know that there is NO valid reason why these lists should be removed. you are just blindly trying to enforce your points of view for the sake of it. not one person on this message board has presented a valid reason why it should be removed.

i ask again for reason. whether it be loopla, twenty years, or this new player discospinster, stop playing administrators. this is a public forum. past, present and other members of the college have the right to determine what is included. and yes, i have browsed your user pages, many medals, congratualations. if you were truly that good, you would be writing for funk and wagnals, or britanica. but no, you are not. you are trying to exercise power over a wiki page(WIKI: A website or similar online resource which allows users to add and edit content collectively. www.tvb.org/multiplatform/Multiplatform_Glossary.asp). you have no right to threaten with securing the page. all that is, is a baby winging to have their own way. and i am sorry to make this personal, but thats all this is. Cyberbullying. everyone has the right to determine what content occurs on a page. and yes, securing can be aranged. but look at pastsites that have been secured, George Bush's page is most notable. and why was it secured. because of vandalism on the site where people were including political views. you can hardly say that these lists are vandalism, political, or creating a non neutral page.

without having WP:SOAP thrown at me again, i have had my day in the sun at the school. i dont need praise. but this now is purly about principle for me. You can not use mob mentality to group up on another person. again i will continue to edit this site. i ask again for this stupidiyt to be brought to an end.

Should you have anyhing further to discuss with me, please do so on my talk page

Zebra91 (talk) 02:54, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Thx Loops, was trying to work out what was missing in the ref code for that school. Boylo (talk) 00:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I have my eye on that that article as well, and I've already warned the user once about 3RR. If his/her behaviour continues I'll continue to bring up points on the talk page and warn the user and then send it to WP:AIV if necessary. I think that s/he will eventually get the point, though! Regards, ... discospinster _talk 17:20, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

P.S.: The Wikiquette report was an excellent idea. ... discospinster _talk 17:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, ive made a suggestion on the talk page of Partician Brothers as to a way forward, to help satisfy both sides. Please have a look and just write what you think. Twenty Years 08:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

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Loopla - Thanks for your link, on various schools articles, to the Sun-Herald article concerning alumni in Who's Who. The link does not bring up the article. Can you please fix this so that the Sun-Herald article can be accessed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.20.192.54 (talk) 23:37, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

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I should note that another editor has reverted your edits to Brighton Grammar School. There is discussion on their talk page about the best stop forward, instead of a revert war. Thanks. Twenty Years 15:01, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

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Does MOS say you have to replace the simple character with the & thing? First I'd heard of it ... Tony (talk) 09:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Much better to retain the single character. Tony (talk) 09:21, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

patrician brothers college is ranked 126, it was not spam, so please dont bloody change it http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/files/pdf_dtm20dec07st004.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.227.248 (talk) 12:10, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

An editor has gone along and changed all of the Infobox Aust Schools to Infobox Schools, eg. . Its probably all over your watchlist, heres their contributions. Thanks. Twenty Years 04:45, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

It appears to have been decided by them, and whats how they want it. Ive left a message on their talk, basically showing them our previous discussions, and the concensus that we keep the Aust school infoboxes. Interesting to see their reply. Thanks. Twenty Years 05:14, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

The guy's nominated it for deletion. While I can see some obvious areas for improvement on the Aust school one (private is fine as it is), it's superior to the general template in my opinion. Orderinchaos 06:39, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

heres the link to the deletion, as you are the major contributor to the template. Twenty Years 06:41, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

(reduce indent) Have reverted all of the changes made by the user to Aust school infoboxes. Left another message on his talk explaining my actions. Lets hope this never happens again. Twenty Years 07:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Yea, was very frustrating, using rollback, i could only revert a certain number of edits per minute otherwise itd stop me, because i could be doing malcicious stuff with it. Annoying, but very satisfying at the same time. Thnx. Twenty Years 15:23, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I did not post the comment(but i know who did), which u say was 'don't bloody change it' i did no such thing. I just posted the reference and that is it. I did not and have never talked to you rudely, sorry for the misunderstanding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.227.248 (talk) 08:37, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I've granted your request. Happy editing. Pedro :  Chat  11:33, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Welcome. You can try it out at WP:NAS if you need to. Pedro :  Chat  11:37, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I've always been inclined not to use them unless they're going to be repeated a lot in a text. Can't see the point of asking readers by implication to memorise them otherwise. Tony (talk) 14:48, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

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How about waiting till I've finished before you vandalise my changes? Pdfpdf (talk) 10:06, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Minor problem - Yrs 7-10 inclusive follow the IBMYP. To say "students from Year 10 follow the curriculum mandated by the Senior Secondary Assessment Board of South Australia" is not correct. (Yes, I know you didn't say that.) I'm considering presenting Yr 10 separately from Yr 11-12. Your thoughts? Pdfpdf (talk) 10:26, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Also, I think it's necessary to say something about SA secondary being Yr 8-12, and Concordia's addition of yr7 to a secondary school is new (less than 5 years ago) and although not unusual, is not common practice in SA. (yet!) Pdfpdf (talk) 10:33, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

And last, (which is what I had intended to say first ... ), excellent job. I like what you've cut out (I wasn't brave enough to do it myself!), and I really like what you've added. By comparison to what you've done, my changes are simply "titivation", and perhaps just pedantic detail. Well done, and thanks. Pdfpdf (talk) 10:44, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

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With your deletion of the list of ONU Presidents from the Newington College page you have deleted some old boys who weren't listed seperately on the List of notable Old Newingtonians but who had wiki articles. Should you add those and their dates as Presidents to the notable list so their connection isn't lost? If that is done the deletion of the Presidents list seems reasonable. Castlemate (talk) 01:20, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Just a quick note that ive changed the name from Twenty Years to Five Years. Thanks. Five Years 16:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for uploading Image:EmanuelSchoolLogo.jpg. It is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. [Rhubarb and waffle removed.] BJBot (talk) 12:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

1. I "fixed" the orphaned logo.
2. Hopefully I've reduced the likelihood of ongoing edit war.
3. Are you aware there's a reeking-with-POV article Emanuel School (Randwick)?

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 16:05, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey Loopla, I'm kind of new at this whole editing/writing articles thing so I thought I'd drop you a line. I can see that you've been very active on the rowing pages, most notably the Head of the River (Victoria) page. I have been researching more results & history and have been trying to update it (and fill out what's missing in the results table for instance). I also split off the Head of the Schoolgirls (Victoria) section into its own page, which, i'm sure some people may not like. I think it was necessary because they are two completely independent regattas and they have nothing to do with each other! There's more than enough information to create substantial wiki pages on each. Anyway, cheerio :) Narcissus1x (talk) 07:48, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

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Hi Loopla!

Looking at Image:ConcordiaCollege1905.jpg and Image:ConcordiaGym1921.jpg, I question whether the 1921 photo is of the same building.

Regarding the 1905 picture, that building was constructed in the 19th century (see Annesley College), and was well established by 1905. The left wing (the photographer is looking south, so it is the east wing) was either built before, or at the same time as, the west wing, and the old Chapel is to the east of that. I'm not sure when the old chapel (now called the Suaviter) was built, but it was well before 1921.

Ignoring the east wing, if you look closely at the two photos, you can see significant differences between them. Is the 1905 picture a photo or a drawing? If it's a drawing, that could explain the differences, (but not the east wing!)

Your thoughts?

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 23:15, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

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Think its safe to merge it. Author also created Carey Aquatic which was Speedied per A7. Thanks. Five Years 08:21, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey Loopla, I know you're familiar with the pre-1955 copyright expiry rationale and use it yourself. With my peers in WP:RL Project we've used it to upload a number of images of old footballers. But we've found that shots sourced through the Picture Australia link which reside on the State Library of NSW site say Not a free image - This image is provided for research purposes only and must not be reproduced without the prior permission of the State Library of NSW. In reading the rationale I imagine if it's a pre-1955 shot then we can just go and use it - copyright has expired. But can the website hosting the shot override this as the Library seems to be doing ? What do you think ? -Sticks66 11:29, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Loopla, I wonder if you could help me with the Headmasters table on Marcellin College Randwick. It has became too long now and i cant work out how to make it so it can have two columns instead of the one. If you know how to do it, i would appreciate your help. Thx. Boylo (talk) 05:18, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

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I have noted your removal of unreferenced and red inked names from the List of notable Old Geelong Grammarians and while I feel most of them are indeed ex-students I suspect you were right in doing what you have done. Looking at the other Victorian schools I feel the same needs to be done to many of them as few if any are referenced. Many of these schools list wiki=linked names but when you check their article there is no reference for their schooling either. In general this whole area needs attention and should be brought up to the high standard you have encouraged in NSW. As for Geelong Grammar I also feel that those that attended Clyde School and The Hermitage (Australia) should be listed on those schools and not on the Geelong list. While they have become members of the Old Geelong Grammarians Association they are not in the strict sense Old Geelong Grammarians as they didn't attend the school. If no article existed for their schools I would think otherwise. I would appreciate your thoughts. Castlemate (talk) 07:35, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

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They look like footnotes to me.^[1] And, if what you are calling "references" aren't footnotes, what ARE footnotes? Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 21:08, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

P.S., See also Wikipedia:Layout#Standard appendices and descriptions & Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Section management. Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 17:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)